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Hey thanks for the comment- you should come back and write more often. I miss your words.
~cheers,
writonthebody
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lol a dutch mother!
sorry i'm just now getting your comment from forever ago
i'm trying to come back, i've been writing, not as much as i'd like to, i've been working nights, so it seems i'm always in a trance, who knows.
hope to talk to you later man
~ashes~
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I finally did the task that wasn't easy...I broke away from him, and while I now feel more "fucked up" it's a better "fucked up" than before...I hope you remember who I am...you commented on my poem Paradox, and I'm just responding...
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hey you, it's pam - the crazy punk in nyc, if you don't remember. lol. i tried to email you, but it wouldn't go through, so i thought i'd try this page since i'm silly and won't call unless you give me permission... lol.
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we're doing alright jeff, thanks for your concern. please see my bio page for the little bit of info i have right now. peace out.
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Well hey Bro and Nate, not been here in the longest time but thought I'd look in again. For all those that know these two on here be assured that they are 2 beautiful people (I should know because I had the great honour of meeting them just after Christmas). Just remember guys I for one am rooting for ya. Much love Krys xxx
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just wanted to stop by to see how yr doing. i want you to know that i've severely chastised the moon for allowing this to happen, and she assured me that ammends will be made. hang in there brother.
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we're working on it. we appreciate the concern of our friends here, it means alot.
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Hoping you and Nate are finding a path to each other :-)
Was thinking about you two.
~ Wendy
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That huuuuuuuuuge loooooong piece up there that you posted, I agree with you totally. What I saw in it, or atleast in my own eyes, was that you were trying to point out that if people don't want help, they shouldn't ask for it. I, myself, do invite true critiquing, which most of the time doesn't come to me unless I am a perfect writer, and I am not. By the way, you do have some great work... ^^ But I have only read one of your pieces, so... I can't say that overall about everything you have written, but so far from what I have read you are a good writer. Hope you keep it up, don't let go of the talent you have!
-Lady Elentari-
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she's awesome by far and i miss her.
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my dear jc--oh how i have missed you....and your power in words that evade the soul-
your senseless friend from >10(miles away)
aims
and big congrats on Dissonant~
you deserve the best,so she must be awesome!
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Standing in ovation to your manifesto, ooops Otsefinam. Bravo!! And for the record, I DO appreciate an honest evaluation of my works, and thank you for doing so.  Karen
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Satnding in ovation to your manifesto, ooops Otsefinam. Bravo!! And for the record, I DO appreciate an honest evaluation of my works, and thank you for doing so.  Karen
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 i wish i could have said that
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i definitely don't recall putting down anyone. pointing out a cliche line in a poem is hardly attacking them as a person or calling them a cliche writer. i'd go so far as to say that the majority (if not all) of my critiques fall well within the guidelines of the posted (by Kevin) article on diplomatic critiques. i don't think i've been tactless at all. i could understand your argument if i were to post a critique such as, "this poem is so riddled with cliches that i don't know where to begin. all of your work, in fact, is so cliche that, frankly, i'm not sure why anyone would want to read it. if you can't write any better than this, stop trying." THAT'S putting somebody down. my comments tend to say something to the tune of, "there are some cliche lines in this piece that hinder it from being as strong as it could be." now, certainly the writer may disagree with my opinion, but they should in no way feel "put down" or insulted, because i'm critiquing the piece, not them. in fact, with such a statement, i am acknowledging that the piece, written by their hand, has the potential to be something great. i'm pointing out the things that i feel keep it from shining as brightly as it could. if poe had written "the raven" precisely as it exists today with the exception of a line that fell flat in comparison with the rest of the work, it wouldn't be as great as it is. i think he would have appreciated someone telling him that the line wasn't working for them. as it stands, he did an excellent job with it and it's a classic. let me use myself as an example here. the last poem i posted, in my opinion, isn't good at all. the only reason i haven't deleted it is because of a couple of the comments people made on it that i don't want to delete. (in particular, that of my fiance, Dissonant). otherwise, i'd scrap it because it's, frankly, crap. i can say that of my own work and it's no exaggeration. i wonder why i posted it at all, lol. the point is, i acknowledge that the piece has many problems with it, yet i'm in no way insulting myself as a poet. i'm not saying i'm a terrible poet and i shouldn't have posted a single poem on this site. i'm saying that THAT poem in particular is lacking. i'm nowhere near that harsh in critiquing others, this is simply myself i'm talking about. if you want to cuddle poets, do so. that's your right, you can do with your comments whatever you want, so long as it doesn't attack the writer's character or person. in the same way, as long as i'm not being critical of the writer's character or person, and keep it strictly about the piece, and furthermore do not insult the entire piece but simply point out instances in the piece that could be improved for clarity or whatever, then i'm not treading on any dangerous ground or insulting anyone. it comes down to the definition of "critical." when someone invites a "critical" comment, they're asking for more than "great write" or "way to go, you really made the grade with this one." i can appreciate the point you're trying to make IF the writer didn't ask for a critical comment or, in their author's comment box, they specifically said "only praises and adulation please." i assume that when i see a critical comment invited, it means they want an actual critique and not just a pat on the back. i get the impression that the poets you particularly mentioned earlier are friends of yours. perhaps that's why you feel i was being arrogant and attacking them. i can assure you, i was doing neither. the real food for thought here is that critical reviews should not be invited if they're not wanted. it's as simple as that, really. if you disagree, so be it, we'll agree to disagree. but as i said, it comes down to the definition of "critical."
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for the most part you are dealing with amateur writers...
and can deal with this in a way without putting someone down.
now some may say I'm cuddling poets. why not?
if it keeps people writing...and they do say that practice is perfect. i'm just saying to do it with tact
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i don't think, when a person requests critical comments from other poets, that it's a case of taking into account what the average reader does. the person posting is asking for another poet (correct me if i'm wrong) to share their opinion on the work. the reason i point out cliche lines is because, as editors will tell you, cliche lines weaken a poet's work. when i point cliche lines out to someone, i'm not calling the entire piece cliche. i'm telling them that there are cliche lines in the poem (and sometimes i give them specifics as to which lines they are), so that IF that sort of detail matters to them as a poet, they can see it and correct it. if they don't mind using cliche lines, then that's fine by me. you're right, the average reader may not ever notice them. however, if the poet wants to seriously be published or regarded in any high esteem among accomplished poets, such lines WILL be noticed and pointed out. it's not about arrogance. it's about being honest and telling the poet the unpolished truth - instead of candy-coating and simply saying "wonderful write", which in no way helps them grow technically or fundamentally. if real critique isn't wanted, it should not be invited. there is a little box you can check on the ADD page, which will clarify that for the reader.
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can do my friend. I've seen a couple of times you've called a persons writing clique.if that's honest...well maybe i'm reading your critque wrong. as a matter of fact I've seen you do it in poetic espcape's work as well as flawed destiny's work. many times I guess it could be subjective. but then do reader's really read what the writer has to say or are they looking for flaws in what one's writing? could be food for thought. Edited on Sep 25, 11:35 p.m. because ''.
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lol JC you arrogant asshole!
i'm going to beat you with my cordless telephone
and then call yo mama collect! BEEOTCH!
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worrying about what the poet has to say is fine, provided they're not inviting a critical comment. to my knowledge, (and i could certainly be wrong here), i've never "put down" anyone's work, but i HAVE pointed out where they could improve it. last time i checked, that's what critique was for. if being honest in a critical comment is arrogance, call me guilty. also call me honest. i can improve as much as anyone, i certainly don't consider myself to be perfect. so, i'm not entirely sure where you're coming from here, but you should at the very least point me to an example of my arrogance so i can be on the same page with you.
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i've heard your arrogance in your commentary several times... seems to me you ought learn to read what the poet has to say instead of worrying about how they put it together my friend
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JC!!!
your comment, SIGH
i can't tell you how much that means to me
COMING FROM YOU!
that is the greatest comment i've ever received on
one of my poems, THANK YOU!
lol i've been drinking too much coffee
tonight and i sound crazy i know
heh
thanks again jc
you rawk
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Where for art thou, Laureate?? I am SOOOO homesick, it hurts- really!!! URGH!!! Can't wait to run down that walkway and feel your arms again. May the paperwork be brief and the seconds be long. 2 cigarettes to go and a pocket full of hunger.
Forever, Natalie. xxx
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my long lost friend
atlast we meet again
i miss you!
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Still like "otsefinam", it kicks and just keeps on kicking!! It's a wowie!! I was reading some of your oldies, baby you have a real talent. Where's the "dear john for America" one we were talking about??? Your lines are so well thought out, it is bound to be a goodie.
I love you,
Nate.
xxx
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Well you have been a busy boy haven't you?? Having heard the new selection over the phone, its even better to read your work with your voice in my head. Mmmm, soft, flowing southern tones. I shall endeavour to comment appropriately and reward you greatly in a few weeks  . I just wanted to say thankyou so very much for the beautiful poems you have written me of late. I love you and I miss you terribly. I know its only a few weeks but it's still too long, dammit!!
Anyway, I am back online now so I shall leave my mark on the newbies and maybe post a few of my own.
Always yours,
Nate.
xxx
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Hey... just had to stop by and say "thanks" for your kind words and comments, it means a lot to me to know i was missed. I hope to be back more often, but i'm still not really (back) yet, but working on it :-)
I have tons of catching up to do. Hope you are doing well and the sun is shining in your part of the world :-)
~ Wendy
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you're very kind, richard. i'm not much of a fan of the cover art, that's the primary thing i'd change. but i suppose if i weren't a perfectionist, i wouldn't have anything to complain about, and what a horrible existence that would be!  thank you for your interest and for the book purchase as well. i do appreciate it all muchly. take care.
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Ok, i got the book “Dead Angels Sing No Hymns” and am very pleased to have it in my collection. It presents well; the cover art is intriguing, the font style is easy and the overall production quality is excellent. The content is beyond what i expected. The poems you've chosen for the book are, to me, amazing. They are free, alive and genuinely expressive adventures. So anyway, I just had to stop and let you know, how much i appreciate your work. Blessings ~richard 
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Wearing my real name... I kind of like it. It does change the sort of poems I post. Perhaps I'll adopt an alternate personality to put up "naughty" poems... still thinking about that one...
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astral, thank you for the book purchase. now if you can just convince a few million more... 
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You THINK??!!@@ Yes yes yes, I am working on it. When I get my head out of my ass and accept that SOME of the stuff is OK.  Promise it will be soon!!!
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i shamelessly ordered "Dead Angels Sing No Hymns," on line. i am looking forward to reading it. i enjoy your skill with word and phrase. ~richard
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We have to come back here more often!!  Something is missing and its virtual home. hehe!!
Love you, laureate.
Nate.
xxx
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I couldn't help but notice the comment about the silver cup being prettier. It's so true. When I first joined AP, all I wanted was the silver. By some act of God, I got it. Once you've got a silver trophy, it's too risky to polute its beauty with a first or third place. But I'm weird. STP
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Just a few hours and then I will be there to read this in your arms. I can't wait!!!
I love you, Laureate!!!
(A very excited)
Nate.
xxx
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I knew someone was going to misunderstand my meaning on Lie, with the breath/breathe. I am not saying breathe as in breathe into me, I am meaning breath as in your breath...Make sense? I probably should put a 'your' before it to clarify that.
 thanks for reading.

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the silver cup is prettier. hmm... i'm just glad you won the gold, you certainly deserved it.
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Awww, baby!!! The silver cup is prettier. * looks hopeful * Well done on winning second. Ya know, I think we were on a par at least so it was a hard choice for Wayne to make and I did so love your piece. We have CUPS!!!! Yay!!! Thats one to strike off my new years resolution sheet now!!!! Love you, baby and I cant wait til Saturday. The bubbles are getting bubblier and the aches are getting achier- I need a little JC antidote laced with sugar
Your,
Nate.
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thank you very much, mr. click, for hosting such an interesting contest. i'm still working in my head about what i'm gonna do for your latest one.
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Just checking to see if the Cup showed up. Hey that rhymes. Congrats.
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Just wanted to let you know I will be extending the "Mother Of All Contests" for another week. : )
-Nando-
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lol! err... right. thanks. i think? no idea who that is so it might not be a good thing!
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Your username reminds me of Charles Darcy Mcgee (maybe with an 'h' in the Mcgee...)
My Canadian History exam was monday, if you're curious.
-Keela
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No more uncertainty, huh? All we have left is faith and we have it in spades. I love you baby. The words dont seem enough but they must suffice until I can hold you in 12 days and show you its all alright. Forever is within our grasp now. We overcame the first battle and the rest will just come. Amidst it all, just knowing I had you was enough to keep me sane.
Your,
Nate.
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*shakes head* children childrec... JC im with you man, sorry didnt mean to interrupt, philophant, if you want ill read your poem, and i will comment, i can almost guarantee you wont like the comment tho, as i find most of the stuff on this site uninspired and lacking any real emotion..
peace , Eoj
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Can you say pathetic, pretentious, precocious brat?
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