Guestbook entries for ILTL4eva7

• Night Hope on August 15

  Kels, you ROCK. ~ Swanee
• Account Closed198 on January 6

  Just a quick visit to an old friend. When one's world falls apart the remnants of a scarcely recalled past suddenly become gems.
• Account Closed198 on November 23, 2008

  Hello, I yet live. Gut genug ja? *smirks* Hope you're enjoying life.
• Night Hope on September 13, 2008

  ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥
• Account Closed198 on June 20, 2008

  Heya Kel-chan, haven't seen you in fucking forever and a half....ummm...how'd yer life go? College, husband? (okay still maybe a little young for that lol)---- I probably won't ever even come to see if you saw this, but, it's a nice though.....
• DeathinanAlley : Life is. . .? on April 28, 2008

  I'm in! I'm IIIIIIN! ! ! ! ! ! ! Hey there Kelse! How goes it?! Looooooooooong time no hear (TOO FREAKING LONG!) I just visited your web-page for your art! It's GREAT! Hahahaa! I noticed that I'm on your list of guys! Wheee! Danke! Sorry for being out of the picture for so long. . .Some heavy shite was going down down here. . .My ex-fiance tried to kill me and nearly succeeded. . .LONG story. . .But yeah. Oh, did I mention that I'd been engaged? Luckily I got out before THAT particular boat went down. . .But yeah. Tell me every little thing, would yah? I'mma go and check out your new work then and take care 'till the next time!
  
  -Sincerely Yrs,
  
  E.
• Night Hope on March 6, 2008

  ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥
• Night Hope : Hoppy 18th Birdy Day, Kelsey!!! on October 22, 2007

  Hoppy 18th Birdy Day, Kelsey!!! Sorry, Sweetie; I was at work, now I'm on my way to the doctor. Ya gotta remind me ahead of time, Sweetie. I just turned 49 September 24th; between that, what's going on, plus that I was a librarian for over 12 years, I've got one solid case for sensory overload. I hope it's a wondrous time for ya, Sweetie. You're an adult now, ya know. Love you, Lady. Swanee
  
  
• : To my one and only fan: on April 20, 2007

  I see I still have an influence over your page, but I've fallen in rank over time. Plus, you've been a busy little bee in my abscence. All the more better. But where to start? You have so many, surely deserving of much page. But to respond in classic -x-, true to form...I just do not have the time. How bout dropping me a few hints of where to start.
• starsnostars on December 19, 2006

  well, I still exist (:
• starsnostars on November 8, 2006

  I recommend this girl here: allpoetry.com/poet/philosphyofkate
  
  I haven't written in so long.
  I'll get back into it soon enough; promise (:
• Night Hope on November 2, 2006

  {leaves petals on your doorstep}
  
  
  
  Loves ya, I do.
• Night Hope on October 21, 2006

  Dammit, dammit, dammit...I missed your birthday??? Ooohhh, Kelsey...I'm so sorry, Sweetie...I hope it was a wonderful day for ya, my literary daughterly unit thingy...Hoppy belated birdy day, Sweetheart... Ya know I love ya more than chocolate...Sighhh... Swanee
• Night Hope on September 4, 2006

  You might like this one, Kelsey. The picture might look a lil' familiar to ya, Sweetie. Love ya, my literary daughterly unit thingy. Muahhh!!! Swans
  
  www.allpoetry.com/poem/2216396
  
  To Emonquente: I heard ya talkin' 'bout me, Poet. Thank you, very much!!! I'm quite honored.
• Account Closed198 on August 2, 2006

  Eh, I suppose so, arguing and being angry just aren't my style. WEll, argueing sure as hell is, but being hateful is not. Though many people consider blunt and rude synonyms heh heh.
  
  
  Anywho, yeaper, I'ma back, and frankly, kinda creeped out. My coming back speach was applauded, yet when I said the exact same thing it was what got me to leave lol. I imagine my final notice was what got people to liek it however, something about sitting the next arguement out with a box of popcorn heh heh.
  
  Whatever, I'm tired so check my mail and go play video games. . . go to bed should be in there, but it isn't heh heh.
• Account Closed198 on July 27, 2006

  Leaven the site, goodbye kel-chan
• Night Hope on July 25, 2006

  Kelllllllllllllllllllllseyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!! ♥ Swanee, Queen Goof of da Realm
• Account Closed198 on July 4, 2006

  Finally looked at your deviations, they are very good, and THAT is all I say untill you speak back, to make sure I'm getting off the bloody computer!
  
  Ta-ta, Deary
  ~Emonquente.
  
  P.S.
  
  My hope is that by using my official 'goodbye' signature I seriously will stop this time ^.^
• Account Closed198 on July 4, 2006

  Dammit, this really is the last thing. I wrote a new poem, for the first time in a long time, and shall strive to write at least one a day from here forth. Please read and enjoy the new item.
• Account Closed198 on July 4, 2006

  Also, I realised one last thing, the day I met you, I had 200 critiques. It took me 24 months, and 14 days to read that much. In the twelve months and 8 days I've known you, I made 273 critiques.
  
  The day I met you I made over 150 critiques. And the next day over 50. The following time I made a critique or two here and there.
  
  Point is, you made me write more critiques in one year, than i did in two! 36% more to be exact.
• Account Closed198 on July 4, 2006

  BTW, looked at your bio, Night Hope is indeed good, most likely the best poet on here.
• Account Closed198 on July 4, 2006

  Last poem was a while back, but knowing you you're still around. We need to talk soon deary. Check your yahoo, and tell me on there when a good time to speak with you will be,.
• Night Hope on May 31, 2006

  ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥
  Edited on May 31, 11:00 p.m. because ''.
• Account Closed198 on May 18, 2006

  SN is Todes_Liebe, I think you know, but now I know you do ^.^
• Account Closed198 on May 17, 2006

  OH! By the way, please read "Hymn to the Spirit of Heresy",it is, by far, the best thing I've written since that one year of consecutive inspiration that I, as of yet, have been unable to recover with my regained sanity o.o lol.
• Account Closed198 on May 17, 2006

  Ha ha, well I am on AIM around midnight every night (got a crush on a guy so I try to be on whenever there is a shot he will be.) So you can pop into that around then if you like (remember I'm on Central Time)
• tragedysway on May 17, 2006

  thanks. you pretty much said what i was doing. you are right. im not following rules. i dont think any form of art should have rules. its the same way with music. its all an endless debate. i knew that my grammar was wrong. i wasnt really worried about it. i woke up in the middle of the night with a thought so i wrote it down. some people do that on purpose. sometimes it ruins the work in my opinion. but it just depends i guess. but anyway, thanks again and i just wanted to explain what the deal was with my poem...just to get rid of all that confusion over it
• ILTL4eva7 on May 16, 2006

  haha, it's all for the best--I would have withdrawn if you hadn't, just because we'd eventually start hating each other, I'm sure... and I think an argument over poetry is a pretty stupid way to end a friendship, don't you? I think I've mostly just been holding out for the mental stimulation, anyway. I have no problem with your way of thinking--I actually find it quite interesting. Well, sir, I'm outta here... gonna go spend the rest of my night giggling and trying to find something productive to do with my time... *le sigh* You should definitely consider getting on Yahoo or something similar, it's been awhile since we talked without the annoying pauses that come from AP messenger chats. Have a lovely night, sweets!
  
  ~Kelsey
• Account Closed198 on May 16, 2006

  See, told you know, don't know enough about e e cummingse or whatever you said it had to be. The spelling mistakes (aside from one I pointed out) were all typos, so pointing them out would be somewhat pointless, my typing does not hold candle to my ability to speel, and of course, there is always the problem of overlooking something or two while you're writing that you really should not have done because you knew better.
  
  Anyhow, this debate is holding no fruit, and could only serve to go in circles as it has already begun to do. Therefore, I would like to withdraw from it if you do not mind.
  
  I cannot, because I shall not, accept what you view, for the base matter of you (apparently) see things in the modern freedom that I so despise, and we will never see eye-to-eye on the subject. Although, I can concede that you are a better person for this, since you can accept that neither of us are right or wrong, when I take wha tI consider to be the 'true' form as a form that does not allow the freedom requisite of us both being correct. This debate precisely, is why I no longer write.
  
  I digress, (I; unfortunately, have to use that word quite often, do not be so pleased when you 'get to' say it, it shows you are easily distracted) I wish you well,
  
  Farewell,
  Kristopher Lee Holmberg.
• ILTL4eva7 on May 16, 2006

  Dear lord, Sir! (Sir, by the way, is a name I’ve been calling most of my guy friends for about a month now… just for something new) Cut the BS! Hehe, that’s not meant as an insult, just so you know—it’s an inside joke between some of my friends and me. Anyhoo, let’s just start from the beginning, and I’ll try to address each of your points—just like a real debate!
  
  So, to begin… I won’t deny that you have just as much experience as I do in matters of English and literature in general… I just found it borderline-offensive that you said I wouldn’t believe the amount of people who need help with meanings and the like… haha, I go to a hick school, where kids don’t know how to spell “sophomore” (true story) or what two colors make purple. But, I realize you were just making a point, so no offense taken.
  
  Next point… age, I believe? As much as I’d like to believe that every 16-year-old out there has a firm handle on the English language, realistically I know this is not the case. It often depends on one’s education and resources… self-explanatory, methinks. You and I tend to be rarities anymore… sad but true. Anyway… personally, I find no problem with jumping head-first into the world of poetry, with no former knowledge… experience is the best teacher, after all. I can say that from experience—I started out with free verse (very bad free verse), then discovered that forms could be fun… so I did some of those, mixed in with my free verse, until the combined experience gave me the confidence and knowledge I needed to create “good” poetry (a relative term, of course). In my opinion, poetry is something that no matter how you approach it, if you’re dedicated enough, you will eventually reach satisfaction.
  
  As for emotion in poetry, I’m not saying by any means that these emotions-only writers are turning out “good” poetry… just that they’re using what they write as an outlet, and aren’t concerned with the overall effect or the final turn-out as much as they are with releasing pent-up emotions… and that’s just fine with me.
  
  I think, anymore, poetry is just… indefinable. There are too many varying ideas on what it should and shouldn’t be, all with just as much credibility as the next… Arguing who is in the right is a fruitless battle that will only breed resentment, wouldn’t you say?
  
  I can’t say I completely agree with your way of thinking… not to say you aren’t entitled, or that it’s “wrong”… but in my situation, it doesn’t really… fit. According to it, the way I approached poetry from the beginning is “inexcusable,” and even my current style, seeing as how I bend, stretch, and often break the rules of grammar and mechanics, isn’t “right.”
  
  I can’t agree that the best poets all uphold your line of thinking, although I will concede that many of them probably do. Still, there are always exceptions… and that, to me, is what makes poetry so fun. And of course, you’ll find your idea more practical, while mine is more idealistic. Ya know what’s really fun? I find my way to be the more practical… it’s all relative. And the best part… neither of us is wrong.
  
  Well, sir, I will be waiting with fingers crossed and breath held for your reply. I think I’ll be nice and not correct the spelling mistakes I noticed in your comment. :-P… however, I must point out that the name “e e cummings” is always to be written completely in lowercase, with no punctuation, and also that the Bard ended his last name with an “e.” hehe, k, I’m done for now!
  
  ~Kelsey
  
• Account Closed198 on May 15, 2006

  'Sir'? It has been some time since anyone, you included, have called me that. As for your poetry, I used to read it when you did rwrite consistantly, and I have noted (admitted in many cases to your credit) when you have done what I have always considered the 'true intended' forms of poetry.
  
  I have just as much experience as you in the matter of English, this you know, and equally specialised studies in Poetry itself. (Although for the life of me I cannot remember if 'itself' has two 's's or one.)
  
  As for the correction I over-looked, y sincerest apolgies, but with such simple things too look at, a common and, almost acceptable, mistake was hardly a priority.
  
  I admit that you are correct on yet another note as well, I should reserve my 'constuctive criticism' for those whom request it, either directly or indirectly. Those that only pour out 'emotions' hav eno business hearing such words from me, as they honestly are likely to not care, and only be hurt.
  
  Age; however, is no excuse for lackluster skills. I am 16 are I not? If it can be expected of me to know such things, at least the basics of these finer points should be a basic knowledge of all those whom enter the subject. For that matter, all things intruded upon by someone, should always be entered into with at least some basic understanding of the rules. New ones to poetry, more than any other, should stick to the rules of at least some primitive poem styling, and avoid free-verse all-together until the -have- learned what exactly they should be doing. If they are incapable of deciding for themselves, then they should be willing to express using pre-formed styles, and eventually learn their own.
  
  You stand for the point that poetry is for nothing more than expressing inexpressable emotions through means of other, more conventional venues. Very well, that is a fair enough summerization, but it is still in my opinion, that what I have said was not poetry, is not justified by your view.
  
  I shall explain.
  
  The definition; as far as you have explained it, says that emotions must be expressed. If no emotion is well expressed in a poem; how then, can one possibly call it a poem? It is of my not-so-humble opinion; therefore, that my view of poetry must be at least partially justified, in order to express anything.
  
  What portion must be justified then?
  
  For a poem to accurately and expressedly describe one's emotions, it must have a 'higher' level of thought and words used within. Verse must be used as it is difined, a line at a time describing a certain point, and splitting stanzas upon each new idea, or each new space of time or setting. Much like scenes of a screenplay.
  
  If a 'poem' does not display this 'higher level' of thought then, by all rights, it is not a poem. I am not insuating that all eople msut be capable of such speech as many of the greats, in fact, many of these 'greats' torture the bounds of writing in its self. Shakespear; for example, turns any word into a conjecture, adds apostrophes and/or -st to words to add or remove syllables to cheat in his writing. Granted, iambic pentameter is a difficult thing in which to write a screenplay, but a sonnet is not nerely so difficult to maintain as to 'cheat' so often as 'The Shakespear' did; yet, he is considered the greatest of all time. E.E. Cummings is another argument all-together, one in which, I am not well-studied of enough to engage in debate over, only to say that he does not quite uphold my views either. Even the 'greatest' poets of all time are not beyond reproach for their 'shortucts'. Must I note that many of them were not considered even -good- until the modern views of poetry came about? (With the exception of Shakespear, who always has and always will be considered the greatest)
  
  Perhaps I might suggest Percy Bysshe Shelly for an example of the twists that may be applied to poetry, in my views, without actually breaking any regulations? He turned the tide of the Romantic age to some extent, yet he is widely unsung in comparison to the others of his time, that instead of mildly toying with the language, took it upon themselves to disect it fully and rework the English language in its entirety. (Shakespear invented over 30,000 (est.) words for example)
  
  Perhaps I am overly-critical, and hang too tightly to the roots of all things (particularly the English language) and the rules of the first times. I do not find it right to rewrite the rules of language at the whim of any writer, regardless their skill, and never shall. New styles are acceptable, as are free-verse poems; yet, not following the most basic rules from base, is inexcusable.
  
  Perhaps I make poetry to be too refined in an era where regula is distinctly opposed, not to mention a country where it always has, and a field of interest where too it always has.
  
  Also, I will note another thing. The best poets, seem to preach your ideals; yet, they uphold mine. Therefore, it is of my opinion, that it can be conclude the best poets are those that simply show true feelings, and manage to do it in a 'hightened sense'. So there should be no problems with either of our ideas. It's just that mine, to me, is better in practice, and yours better in ideal.
  
  I have said far too much, and yet, not nearly enough. . . . However, I believe I shall leave it here, and allow you to reply.
  
  Farewell,
  Kristopher Lee Holmberg
  
  Edited on May 15, 11:11 p.m. because ''.
• ILTL4eva7 on May 15, 2006

  You make me giggle, sir... I see that we definitely have different views of the definition and purpose of poetry. I was taught, and still stand firmly by the teaching, that poetry is a way to express emotions and feelings inexpressible in any other medium. I was taught this by several amazingly talented poets who show confidence in themselves and their styles. Traditional poetry does, indeed, have set forms, styles, and tones that should be, if at all possible, observed. However, that is not the only way one can indulge in the joys of writing poetry. Take a look at e e cummings. :-P
  Anyhoo, I digress ( I always wanted a chance to say that)...what I'm trying to say is, if you prefer to stick to poetry in its most tradtional sense, then that is perfectly fine... But unless a poet asks for a critical comment, it is best to avoid critizing their work... have no fear, they'll come into their own (I did, with no help from critical comments or grammar corrections), and until then, just be encouraging. With so few decent poets out there, we can't afford to lose any prospective talent to an ill-phrased comment. Besides, 16-year-olds aren't expected to have perfect grammar, no matter how many times you correct them. (I might also point out that you didn't correct his use of the word "its" in the last stanza of his poem... hehehe)
  I think, at least during the teenage years, most poets are more concerned with getting out overwhelming emotions than with using correct form and grammar. Indulge them for now--if they are meant to become good poets, they will start to look at what they write as works of art, and treat them as such. If not, well, they'll stop writing eventually and you won't have to worry about it.
  By the way, I would not be surprised in the slightest by how many people don't know the meanings (or correct spellings, for that matter) of the words "conjunction," "conjecture," even "synonym" and "simile"... keep in mind, sir, I edit papers on a regular basis, and have even helped my English teacher teach my LAII class... I know how much the English language is deteriorating.
  Take a look at my poetry sometime... you will notice that I have traditional form pieces, blank verse, free verse, even the occasional prose piece.
  Well, I doubt you really care about anything I've written here, but hey, I've said it anyway. Have a lovely evening sir, and get back to me with your feelings on the subject--this is an invigorating conversation, and is helping me avoid going stir crazy... yay!
  ~Kelsey
  Edited on May 16 because 'left out a word... oops!'.
• Account Closed198 on May 15, 2006

  Honestly, I think I am perfectly in the right for what I did, I was polite and straight-forward, and the purposeful rudeness in which he replied to me was unexcuseable in either event. If it helps; however, I have already sent an apology on his author page, if nothing else to sedate him, although, from experience, I know that it will likely only anger him more. I made the apology anyway, because it was the right thing to do, simple as that, and I cannot accept any ill-will to me as a result of my actions as they were relatively justified.
  
  You would be surprised how many people need to be told exactly what a conjecture is, you really would. So I cannot take back explaining it, and the choice not to use them is a choice to destroy the essence of poetry. Poetry is defined as an 'Evolved' form of writing intended and designed to expressedly convey serious emotions, philisophical views, or political views, or religious. Those who take it upon themselves to call digressing the very basis of language 'evolution', deserve nothing less than to be treated as children, and kindly guided back to what they -should- be saying. Writing an apostrophe, and capitalising 'I' so it becomes a word instead of just a letter, are not particularly difficult things, and intentionally not doing them, is hard to believe. Therefore, it should be told, as I have previously stated, just in case.
  
  I cannot tolerate those that intentionally pollute what poetry was and call it 'modern'. Poetry is NOT waht you make of it as it is so popularly believed. Poetry has a foundation of rules and regula, by which it is governed. There are not many of these such things, and therefore it should not be too terribly strenuous to obey them. If it cannot be done by one, or they refuse, then they should not call the line they tred a poetic one.
  
  If you do not aggree with me, it is understandable, and your perrogative. The fact is; however, that my opinion on this is solid, and it shall not sway even in the slightest. Especially not so far as to break for room to pass such things as I witnessed last night.
  
  I do not consider myself any better a poet than any of these people, because, in all honesty, the only thing I have to my merit is that I 'attempt' to follow how poetry was intended. It is similar to the new painters, that believe splotches of color have deep meaning and artistic expression. A five-year-old could, and has, become jsut as successful as the pompus fools that do such things, and it is an insult to the arts.
  
  I think . . . I have finished, long after my share was said. My apolgies. . . .
  
  Farewell,
  Kristopher Lee Holmberg
• on April 15, 2006

  I have mustered a write...just for you! Well, not about you. But it is awaiting your crushing critique.
• Night Hope on April 5, 2006

  {Sneaks up & hugs ya 'round your swan~like neck} ♥ Swans
• Wings of Flight on March 31, 2006

  *runs around dressed up as a box of pocky which I forgot to put eye holes in*
• Account Closed198 on March 30, 2006

  Booya! Got two more songs if you're interested since you like the first.
• DeathinanAlley on March 29, 2006

  HUN! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! OH MY GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! I ENTERED MY FIRST CONTEST AND I WON, GOLD, GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLD! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! I don't even know what to say! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! OH MY LORD! I WON! ! ! ! ! ! ! WOW. YAY * * *HUGG*! ! ! ! ! If you were here hun, I would give yah a HUGE HUGG AND KISS RIGHT NOW I AM SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO HAPPY! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! WOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOOOOOOOOWOW! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! Get back to me hun!
  
  -Yours Truly,
  
  Evan
• Account Closed198 on March 28, 2006

  wrote a song today, gor ead it dammit! XD
• ConfusedandLost on March 22, 2006

  Thanks Kels I guess I know deep down that what you say is true its just nice to have people tell me every once in awhile. lol wish it would happen sooner rather than later.
• DeathinanAlley on March 22, 2006

  I'm BACK. I MIISSSSSSSSSSSSSED You. I've felt like my heart had been ripped out and strewn accross a field of jagged broken bones for the distance. . .I've MISSED You. HUGG. Call me. All My Love to You.
  
  -Yours Always,
  
  Evan
• Account Closed198 on March 19, 2006

  Oi, added more, and you must read, because I the great Kris command it! Lmao, Gods I' tired. . . No more writiiiiing!!! My brain is dead. . . . Must sleep!
  
  Bye bye Kel-chan, seeya tomorrow o.o
• Account Closed198 on March 16, 2006

  What's your yahoo sn? I forgot it and apparently removed you from my list, also I changed my sn anyway lol.
  
  New one is todes_liebe
• Account Closed198 on March 16, 2006

  Love me for being a goof eh? Why? I have so many much better qualities? Eh I love yeh too, because, umm, I do? Mwhahaha!!
  
  So that's it I think. We really should talk sometime though, it really has been too long
  
• on March 15, 2006

  
• ILTL4eva7 on March 15, 2006

  well you can try--but you won't get much out of a broke girl.
• on March 15, 2006

  -x- is dominating your author's page. I'm going to have to start charging you royalties.
• ILTL4eva7 on March 11, 2006

  lol, not exactly the reason you're there... but hey, if that works for you, it works for me. Unless you're talking about your prose-ish piece being at the very top, then of course... it's awesome!
• on March 11, 2006

  Look who's holding that number one spot? I do think it is me? It is!!
• ILTL4eva7 on March 11, 2006

  I will gladly take that as a compliment, although I haven't been compared to Samara in quite a while... the last time, a friend and I were a little hyper, and I was crawling down her hallway...(at this point, I still had hair to my waist, and it had fallen in front of my face) Well, she looked up, saw me, and screamed... at 3 am... in front of her grandfather's room. Oops.

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