Worship your gods in your homes
In your churches, mosques, or synagogues
But keep your faith OUT of politics
As your convictions
May not be MY convictions
And you do not speak for me
You do NOT represent all of my countrymen
You speak for no one but yourself
I do NOT was a government like Iran
I do not want some religious Hypocrite
making whatever policy suits his moral pretentiousness
into federal law
You have your faith...good for you
but your god isn't necessarily My god
and I don't see how yours is any better
so, pray where and how you will
but don't push your self-righteous bullshit
down my throat
there.. I have said my peace
Author notes
Written December 14th, 2004
In a list
A contest entry
- The Constitution: God in Government? by Glacian.
400 points, ended January 5, 2005, 15 entries
• next poem in this contest, remove from contest
What did you think
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Simply- good- gove and church strictly have to be divided!- Good piece.
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Wow, I liked this a lot, and I totally agree. I don't think religion and politics should mix, to me it's to very different things. Love the part, "you have your...good for you, but your god is not necessarily MY god."
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I must applaud this write.They embark on a new crusade as the constitution lies bleeding on the whitehouse lawn.The great irony is that these self-proclaimed patriots don't seem to know that this nation was founded by people seeking escape from the same sort of theocracy they seek to establish.Continue to practice your freedom of speech as it is dissapearing.Rob
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*nods* I understand.
Hey, thanks for not snapping out at me after reading my comment like so many others did that entered this contest...I'd rather have a normal conversation on this topic than an argument! You know? -
You speak true. I have nothing against Christians per se, but i do have issues with the Falwell's and the Meeses and those who want to make their religion LAW. they are no different from the Khomeini's and bin Ladens of the world.
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Ok, I've read a few poems in this contest, and I'm seeing a general trend. People are blaming Christians (or "religious fanatics" as we seem to like to call some people) for having Christian things scattered here and there in our government. It is not the fault of Christians. Things like that were in our government since it started- so you can go back and blame any religious forefathers. Christians are just believers in things- just as any Muslims, Jews, Buddhists are. You don't see Christians walking down the street demanding their views remain in government. Many of us could care less.
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No Christian (or any other religions views) are really policy in this country.
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Oh good point. I never thought of that.
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This didn't seem to be so much a poem as a rant. While I generally agree with the sentiments, it's more like a non-specific oppinion piece.
I think more dangerous than religious fanaticism by a few in this country is the ignorance by the many. People don't want to know about things like slave labor and world poverty because if they know or think about it their comfortable actions can no longer fit into the moral framework the average christian in america has set up /rant -
wow! great job!! I love this!!! its an awesome piece of poetry!!! keep it up!!!!!!!!!!
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Commom sense... that is laughable. I belive "fanatics" is a key word here... no one wants any and they yet willing to become so to digress! Perpetuation of a circle. Calling each other's belief's names won't get us anywhere.
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Hahaha! Very true – but political fanatics aren’t a barrel of laughs either lol!
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thats more or less how i feel. I'm not AGAINST religion, i just dont want it to become the basis for government policy. there needs to be moderation, and sadly, religious fanatics are ANYTHING but moderate.
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I don’t think you need a god or a bible to have laws – after all, pack animals, wolves, baboons, have rules that apply to the group… unless you believe in Adam and Eve - creation, humans must have had the same sort of ‘rules’ to work with; how else could the original units function?
The whole concept of religion is to make people follow the extra rules their creed requires – the carrot of life after death and the stick of holy punishment.
Having said that however; to suggest you can keep religion out of politics is at best naïve – the body politic is derived from every ethical, unethical and down right devious system, to unwind any strand from that is to deny both free speech and democracy. However much I dislike or argue against someone’s opinion – provided they do not infringe others same rights, (racialists for instance) I would defend their right to state their case… but still argue against it – lol.
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i'm not saying they should not be respected, i am saying that they should not necisarily be policy
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That would be a Theonomic view. Very few mainstream Christians in America believe the Old Testament civil law must be implemented. Without getting into deep theology, many Christians believe the Sabbath was a ceremonial law, fulfilled by Christ. They do not believe we must follow the OT ceremonial law, but the moral law is still valid. Many Christians, for example, believe adultery should have civil consequences (few would go for the death penalty, but I might for some cases).
All I'm saying is that you cannot dismiss the opinions and sense of religious people, just because their feelings come from their religion. Their ideas about government should be just as respected as those who have gotten their ideas from Plato.
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The administrators you refer to, who devotedly praise God on Sunday in church, worship Satan on black sabbaths; it is not harmless hypochricy, it is blatant treason aimed at killing every living soul. It does make any difference to them if they smash your skull with the Bible or the Grimoire - you must die slowly and painfully and pay your illegal dues in the process.
there.. I have said my peace
Take care,
Rage
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does that mean anyone who fixes a car or mows the grass on the sabbath should be stoned to death? that's what the bible says we should do.
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Well, for a person who has been brought up from babyhood taught that biblical principals are truth, laws based on Christian principals are common sense. Think about the word, "common" that implies the view of the majority. So, if most people in a country hold to a certain religion, principals of that religion will tend to be legislated.
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how about common sense? do we REALLY need laws governing every aspect of our lives? and do these laws have to claim divine inspiration? no one claims that traffic laws come from God, but they are enforced nonetheless.
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And where, my friend, do you propose we come up with the law of the land? Natural law perhaps?
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I have nothing againt people who live by OT laws themselves, but they should not try to make them the laws of the land, or we will have to stone people to death for eating shellfish, like the bible says we should.
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But if you just consider the tenants of Christianity as a competing philosophy, why should it necessarily be disqualified. Perhaps the principals of Christianity would make for the very best government. It should not be excluded out of hand, but carefully considered. For example, in the Old Testament, there were laws requiring people to build fences around their roof-top patios. From this OT law, we have our principal of attractive nuisance laws requiring fences around swimming pools.
Your opinion is a popular one, but I thought you expressed yourself well.
Jennifer
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