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Il Santo(Friedrich Nietzsche)

A little Jesus meek and mild
with voice and strength of a Darwin Child
denial of all he was brought up to be
yet a lifelong example of piety

 

Holy Atheism:  
aging to be a sinner;
destined to be an incorrigible saint.


Altruism, kindness, humility
boldly denounced as the futility
of mass mediocrity, the ants of
Spiteful Democracy: of which the

only assurance is eternal recurrence.

It is time for man to mark his goal:
Be true to the deepest part of his soul.
Do away with immutable Christianity
replace it by The Superman;god of humanity:
irreverent energy, intellect and pride,
Let the silent truth no longer be denied:

"God is Dead!  God is Dead!"
Thus spoke Zarathustra.

"Let the Gospel Spread!"




















































Author notes

Some of the references I made are obscure facts about Neiztsche, like the fact that he was so religious as a child he would read the Bible to his classmates until they cried. Another fact- that he called the masses nothing but 'ants', and that he was a preacher, so was his father and his whole family line in fact!  You don't read these things in general references. His philosophy was in actuality a fight against his \own\ humanity.

One more thing I know you are supposed to use the same rhyme scheme throughout, but I decided to be different

oh, and one more thing- My Title. I know a group called him that(meaning saint), but can't remember the reference. If anyone knows, enlighten me!

*PICTURE IS FROM NIETZSCHE'S TRACKS. IT SYMBOLIZES HIW OWN LIFE AND TRANSFORMATION.*
Written September 17th, 2004

To the author of current contest: reply to your comment here so the contest can remain anonymous: I LOVE using oxymorons in my poetry- it was one of my favorite things- and the life of Friedrich Nietzsche is just naturally FULL of them because he became so opposite to what he was brought up to be!

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  • Mila7
    July 5, 2008

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    Amazing write! so powerful contradictions presented, I think you do his life justice. Great!

    "A little Jesus meek and mild
    with voice and strength of a Darwin Child
    denial of all he was brought up to be"

    Jesus and Darwin lovely, and the description of both so greatly done.

    "Holy Atheism:
    raging to be a sinner;
    destined to be an incorrigible saint."

    Holy Atheism... truly incredible.

    I found it so interesting that he read the Bible to classmate lol incredible hilarious that they cried.

    Good job in the contest!


  • duana
    October 11, 2004
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    Hey windhover, I expected a long lecture from you just joking


  • windhover3 gold member
    October 11, 2004
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    I sense a touch of irony here...
    Very well written, even if it is a touch... critical?
    I'm inclined to interpret the statements about the superman somewhat differently, but you know your stuff, and turned it into a terrific poem.

    Well done
    (and sneaky),
    Brian

  • duana
    October 2, 2004
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    Thanks, Maatkara!


  • Maatkara gold member
    October 2, 2004
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    Congratulations on your Gold win! Yay! I figured you would be a 'shoo in' for this one! Well done!

    ~ G


  • agazeley gold member
    October 1, 2004
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    I enjoyed this poem although it is a bit clumsy, which never helps a simple reader such as myself - I have yet to meet an atheist that didn't wish that he had faith in something - Albert.


  • Queen Mab gold member
    September 25, 2004
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    I'm not much of a fan of Neiztsche, but I can see where he's coming from. When the personal relationship a Christian holds with Jesus becomes an endless dogma of rituals and backward beliefs it is sure to turn many away. Very sad indeed.
    ~Bezoar


  • September 22, 2004
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    I'm a self realised agnostic I have not read Nietzsche's philosophical works, but I find this poems rings true of many things I have discovered on my own. Sociologically the christian religion is strong and thus its concept of GOD lives on, even though we may not be able to prove or disprove it. For me when I read GOD is dead it means GOD had to have existed at some point, in Nietzche's case GOD would in fact die once denounced, in my case GOD was never "alive" so he couldn't have died. Very intriguing write. I especially like the first stanza. Another thing about the superman, which I'm sure was meant to be the superior stage that humans attain would no doubt be a god on earth thus giving tangible answers to an intangible faith(moving one invisible god from heaven into many supermen(gods) on earth) this sounds like a clever way to say that god is in all of us if we just let him in (which is still a christian concept)...just postulating here.... my mind spins with possibilities


  • Delphinidae
    September 21, 2004
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    I have to admit that I have no idea who Nietzche is, and feel really dumb for not knowing, lol. But you have inspired me to read on, and learn more about this topic. As for the poem, though I did not understand it, it was well written.


  • passionvine
    September 21, 2004
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    Well crafted

    I enjoy the clever ways you combine elements of Nietzche's thought and jargon into the piece. The poem has a prophetic feel to it (ala Blake) that also rings true for the style of Nietzche's writing. I prefer the lighter side of the moon in bergson and G. B. Shaw, but admire the dark Friederich for his emancipation of human thought.


  • K.E. Morris
    September 21, 2004
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    Excellent...very much so...you really captured the spirit of Nietzche and the feeling one gets out of reading his works and hearing his philosophies. (Hah, I just re-read my comment...sorry if I sounded too much like a pompous English teacher, but I really did enjoy this.)
    Edited on Sep 21, 9:56 because ''.


  • duana
    September 21, 2004
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    Bluepoetess, if I rememeber correectly(which I do), you were one of the first people I met on here. Last week was my 3 month anniversery(go me!), and I have gotten more in touch with myself back then. I am growing one step at a time. Thanks for stopping by, and great hearing from you again. Your Memoir of a Tear still remains a top favorite! Sincerely, Duana


  • April Renee
    September 21, 2004
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    Duana, Duana, Duana...at one time, if i recall correctly, you told me you couldnt write that well or understand poetry...i must say, inorder to have written this you must understand it..as well as contain the skill to write such a piece...i am with elisabeth on this one..it was over my head...but it was so well written i looked past that...actually getting through it made me feel smart(er)...lol..neways..good luck in the contest..grand job

    ~*~Blu~*~


  • elisabeth0129
    September 20, 2004
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    This was honestly alittle over my head. I had to look up several words, but I always love an oppurtunity to learn. Once I looked everything up and understood I thought this was a great piece. It flowed really well and was just all around a really well written piece. Great job.

    Elisabeth


  • duana
    September 20, 2004
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    May, I applauded your comment because even though you weren't direct, you seemed to nail what I was doing. If you read many of his works(or if you have) you will find that this little poem covers an awful lot(but not all obviously), lol.


  • Maatkara gold member
    September 20, 2004
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    Yes, nicely polished to perfection, Duana, Actually, there was no "Bush moment" there, both words are correct (it was only the spelling I was alerting on). One can use either 'reoccurrence' or 'recurrence', depending on context (or preferred syllable count).

    ~ G


  • Being Karen
    September 20, 2004
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    Wow...all I have to say is this is incredible. Great poem...the subtlety of such complex ideas...you brought it out so nicely (obviously i had a bit more to say) I love this! Grrreat!


  • cosmicrose
    September 20, 2004
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    Great Work

    I truly enjoy it when someone really does their research and puts extra effort into their creative works as you have done here. To me... ATTENTIVENESS is equal to LOVE.


  • poetryality silver member
    September 18, 2004
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    I have read the writings of Nietzsche when I was searching for truth. It seems, personally, I did not find it in him, but I did find his stand on his belief system to be commendable. Often we are raised one way and find another when we are able to make our own individual choice. This is good because it is educational and poetically sound at once. For those unawares of FN , it is an eye opener, and should make research a must! Very well written, good luck in the contest.

    Much Love,
    Renee


  • ArtFullyMe silver member
    September 18, 2004
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    I find Nietzsche's works quite interesting.. and found some of the key points I remember in your write. If nothing else he left us a lot to consider.

    Good luck in the contest..

    ~~whims

  • Lord Gegishov
    September 18, 2004
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    Good Piece.

    I think that this is a very powerful poem. I have not, however, read any work by Nietchzie(incorrect spelling, I am sure)- although I plan to eventually- that does not take away from the overall effect of this piece. Keep up the good work, and continue writing.

  • battleingmyself
    September 18, 2004
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    just wanted to reread it to see, it seems to flow better for me, either you made a change somewhere or i am starting to understand it,

  • i luv cupcakes
    September 18, 2004
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    Great write! Wishing you the best of luck in the contest! You deserve it!
    ~Kayla


  • BonnieQ silver member
    September 18, 2004
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    I've never indulged in the rantings of unbelievers; mainly because God has manifested Himself to me so undeniably that I cannot justify even the effort it takes to study these who deny Him.

    Albeit, you've presented some very interesting information about one in the crowd and formatted it quite well. This piece held my attention throughout. Very well written.

    Good luck in the contest! Love and hugs, BonnieQ


  • Deja Vu
    September 17, 2004
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    great stuff

    -laughs- I wonder how long someone would have to read the bible to me to make me cry...? -hopes I never find out- Good stuff, I love the rhyming, you chose ones that stuck out and made it better than Dr. Seus stuff. Great stuff


  • joshuadobbs
    September 17, 2004
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    Ohhh yea.... greaat stuff. i dont know mych about Friedrich Nietzsche but what i do know is good, good stuff.


  • duana
    September 17, 2004
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    Thanks for catching my Bush moment there Maatkara. And I am still thinking about the P line. There is a chance for a real play on words there if I can comeup with a good replacement, so I am letting my unconscious think it through for awhile.


  • JenP
    September 17, 2004
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    Maybe I'm the only one, but I don't know much about this guy. Even though, I do like this poem. I don't have to know to like it You touched on a lot of things here, and I think you did it with much honesty.


  • Maatkara gold member
    September 17, 2004
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    Excellent poem, Duana! Jung used Nietzsche as a case study, often quoting "Thus Spake Zarathustra".
    Yes, your 4th line is a little tautological. Could you replace "piousness" with 'reverence' perhaps?
    Also, spelling: 'reoccurrence' (or,'recurrence')

    ~ G


  • duana
    September 17, 2004
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    Actually, melphleg, I just have a lot to me that I generally don't share with people.


  • melphleg gold member
    September 17, 2004
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    You certainly did your researh on this piece. I commend how you incoropated facts about a life into a poem. Nice job. For now I'll refrain from stating my opinion of the man and his beliefs

  • Drakus840
    September 17, 2004
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    I love Nietzsche, and Im a christian, lol. I even have his 'basic works' directly behind me on my dresser..
    I like your word choice in it, it reminds me of something he would write himself. And as for-
    "Altruism, kindness, humility
    boldly denounced as the futility
    of mass mediocrity, the ants of
    Spiteful Democracy: of which the
    only assurance is eternal reoccurance."
    The rhyming and flow there..is just excellent. Seriously, that is some talented stuff


  • duana
    September 17, 2004
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    Hi Catz. I am glad my poem sinpired you to learn more. I musttell you some of he things I refer to in this poem such as being percieved as a little Jesus as a child are pretty obscure. I doubt you will find them in general references. In factencyclopedias and even many general books do not explain his philosophy as a struggle within himself- his battle with being brought up as a 'christian'.


  • September 17, 2004
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    god isn't dead, he has jut gone to the shop, i think he said something about fishfingers, i wasn't really listning, i was too busy arm wrestling with gabriel.


  • catz Moderators member
    September 17, 2004
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    Hmmm... a very interesting piece, Duana. I am somewhat familiar with Nietzsche, and your poem intrigues me, makes me want to learn more about him. The main thing I remember about him is his statement that whatever doesn't kill us, makes us stronger....so you can see, I realy don't know much about him. My next trip to the bookstore or library I'll be looking him up, though.
    A super write, Duana and I wish you luck in the contest.

    Dee

  • battleingmyself
    September 17, 2004
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    first of all without even finishing, big words, i'll have to read slowly and more than once, incase you want to know how the dictionary impaired would react, luckly i try and try again, unlike most, off to read again...

    gotta read again...but first i'll try to look up nietzsche in AP dictionary. no luck
    i do know the name but not the story, off read again...

    i looked up piousness and piety, says they are the same word...
    thats what i thought, off again,

    now zarathrustra no definition...

    i think if i had a better understanding of nietzsche i would be able to follow your piece and i would love your poem,

    this doesn't make me simple just not educated in nietzsche

    but i am going to study up and reread this, just wait,
    i will return tomorrow educated and be able to critique.

    hope this fun for you
    i am jealous of you knowledge
    type you soon

  • duana
    September 17, 2004
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    Thanks for your very insightful comment.


  • Miykie
    September 17, 2004
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    Nietzche talked about elevated moods and how if we don't understand a person's human nature now, as time extrapolates that person's being may become the standard...This is a great write! Holy resistement, Batgirl!

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