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Pathology

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(1)
Do what I say
regardless of what I do ~
double standard


(2)
Do what I say
regardless of what's right ~
control freak


(3)
Accusing others
of your own offences ~
Projection


(4)
Pursuing others
to  demand their compliance ~
Fixation


(5)
Laughing in spite
with hate disguised as humour ~
Schadenfreude


(6)
What ideologues
with no facts to argue do ~ 
vilify






Author notes

[series of contemporary senryu style aphorisms]

..GLOSSARY:

.. Projection: Psychoanalysis . The process or fact of (usu. unconsciously) transferring one's own feelings, desires, fantasies, etc., to another person, thing, or situation, to avoid recognizing them as one's own and thereby to justify one's behaviour.

.. Schadenfreude: [German, from Schaden harm + Freude joy] Malicious enjoyment of another's misfortune.


.. ideology: A system of ideas or way of thinking pertaining to a class or individual, esp. as a basis of some economic or political theory or system, regarded as justifying actions and especially to be maintained irrespective of events. Frequently with specifying word.

.. ideologue: A theorist, a visionary; a proponent or adherent of a particular ideology.


.. vilify: Depreciate or disparage with abusive or slanderous language; defame, revile, speak evil of. Formerly also, speak slightingly of.

Ref: The New Shorter English Oxford Dictionary, 1993 ed.

Afterword: "It's good to be hated by the right people" ~ Johnny Cash (paraphrasing Luke 6:22-23)

Written August 24th, 2004

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  • MargaretG
    September 28, 2007

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    Enjoying this again. It's amazing the perspective that a couple of years gives.


  • MargaretG
    October 30, 2005
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    Somehow I overlooked #6 in my concentration on the others. Sigh. We know them by their fruit. If they are consistently sour, find another tree!


  • HellsAssassin420
    June 14, 2005
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    very interesting poem i like

  • surfermike
    September 11, 2004
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    excellent set of haiku? . .senryu means, many together ? . . or a observation of human motives ? . .
    hmmm . .whatever . .these were great


  • MargaretG
    September 4, 2004
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    Graphic description

    The senryu are general observations, and apply to several people in my life (not on AP). I applaud you again.
    Edited on Sep 04, 11:36 because 'rereading'.


  • duana
    August 30, 2004
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    Lady Bug- you are dead on- these are ALL traits of the passive agressive personality. Great clarification, and summary!

  • duana
    August 30, 2004
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    It's good to be hated by the right people

    I LOVE this quote!!!


  • Terry-too silver member
    August 30, 2004
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    Excellent!

    To see Truth simply
    and express it clearly
    speaks of wisdom.

    Thank you Gennelle
    Unexpected wisdom
    really satisfies.

    Terry
    PS, "Unexpected" is not intended about you, but about other nonsense. It makes this even more welcome. --Dee
    Edited on Aug 30, 7:18 p.m. because 'Explanation'.


  • Maatkara gold member
    August 29, 2004
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    Thanks Tamara Most of these are actually my mother! But they are sadly all too common. You could say I learned to recognize them very early in life.

    ~ G
    Edited on Aug 29, 11:47 p.m. because ''.


  • Ladybug
    August 29, 2004
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    the only thought that filters through this analogy is:::
    would these traits be considered passive agressive?
    LOL
    this is funny, interesting and there is someone out there I would love to mail this to as a """Heads Up""" punch in the gut
    Tamara

  • deadsymcdead
    August 28, 2004
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    cool beans

    this is very different i like the way you explain the word s and still have it roll off your tounge great poem i like it alot


  • Maatkara gold member
    August 26, 2004
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    Thank you, Scarlet Yes, that is interesting as that was referred to by Jung (in, 'Synchronicity, An Acausal Connecting Principle') regarding a reference to a phenomenon Stekel called "the compulsion of the name". That being, "the sometimes quite grotesque coincidence between a man's name and his peculiarities or profession". After a number of common examples: "...Herr Freud (joy) champions the pleasure-principle, Herr Adler (eagle) the will-to-power, Herr Jung (young) the idea of rebirth, and so on."

    So, Freud's name did represent the focus of his studies. Not to mention he 'experimented' with cocaine in his early career.
    It is funny though, as you indicated, because he personally was a miserable sod!

    ~ G
    Edited on Aug 26, 11:10 p.m. because 'typo'.


  • Juliet D
    August 26, 2004
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    This is interesting - thought provoking in a way that many will be able to relate with and understand. I like that you've opened with a sort of cliché but made it really work in a unique way

    ~Scarlet
    ps. I was interested to see that freud means joy in German.. now whenever I think of Freud's theories I'll giggle when I think of the meaning of his name... he was so joyous >.>

  • Maatkara gold member
    August 26, 2004
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    Thanks Bill!

    ~ G


  • BillS2
    August 26, 2004
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    Unique and enjoyable

    ;Hi Gennelle:
    Quite an interesting and informative set of works. I really enjoyed them. The only one I had any problem with was number 3. I always thought that was "Blaming". LOL This is really a unique presentation and you must know by now that I thoroughly enjoyed it. I may have to put these in my vocabulary. Thanks. Bill


  • Maatkara gold member
    August 25, 2004
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    Thank you, Myra! Yes, what you've said is, sadly, very true. Human perception is coloured by so many variables of experience, comprehension and emotional maturity. It is truly an art, not a science. I have only presented some common symptoms; the causes (as you noted) are indeed as varied as individual personalities. And, of course, self-awareness is needed to begin to address any cause.

    ~ Gennelle


  • myrataal silver member
    August 25, 2004
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    Thought-provoking

    Dearest Poetess

    A thought-provoking write, as always. I am convinced by now that labeling of any kind is not my cup of tea. So very many times in the past I was proven wrong by the masks people tend to wear. On reading every definition you wrote, I tried to think of the cause of the characteristic. What went wrong in that person's life? One cannot cure the entire world, but I always go for the underdog. Too many times have I seen how a child is being classified wrongly and then ended up living the expectations - another grownup lost to hangups - due to the misunderstanding of adults and theorists.

    Sadly, your definitions are true (and will evoke self-righteous reactions - would readers admit seeing themselves in your mirror?) but definitions are just the one side of a Janus face.

    What an asset you are to this Website, G! I love to read your work.



    Myra


  • Maatkara gold member
    August 25, 2004
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    Oh, yes M, I see what you mean. Actually, the dictionary definition is very sketchy for what in reality and practice covers many variations and nuanced associations. I was referencing a real instance of that, where a piece (openly admitted to be spite, not humour, by the author) was found by many to be extremely funny; thus displaying their unabashed hatred for the subject. Difficult to pin down such obscure shades of it, of course.
    I'll tweek it some more, though.

    ~ G


  • MargaretG
    August 25, 2004
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    Thank you! In my opinion schadenfreude is taking undue pleasure in the misfortunes of others; so I would say "laughing at pain in spite disguised as humour".


  • Maatkara gold member
    August 25, 2004
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    Thank you M! Ah, I think you've finally cracked it for me... I do SO appreciate your picking up on, and making suggestions for, the glitches I get stuck on. No 'difference of opinion' at all. I'm really grateful for your feedback (I have to really drag it out of you sometimes, though! )
    Ok, what about,'at spite, in hate'?

    ~ G


  • MargaretG
    August 25, 2004
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    I think that Duana is right, you get the best comments! It could have something to do with the quality of people you attract.
    I'm still not happy with schadenfreude, I think it should be "with" or "in" not "at hate". However, I know that you have said exactly what you mean, so we have differing opinions.


  • Mari Goes gold member
    August 25, 2004
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    Here we get a special treat. Your writes are always fabulous, then we get the second treat on your author's comment, then again with the readers' comments and yours among those.
    Sorry to talk only about the treats but the senryus were already very good covered and so the glossary
    Well, I still can say that I agree with all 6, unfortunatelly so goes the world, in senryus as those
    Well done Gennelle!

    Kisses and love,
    Mari


  • Maatkara gold member
    August 25, 2004
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    Hehe! Gotta rattle some complacent, self-created cages now and then . Iconoclasts unite! Yay!

    ~ G


  • Wildequill
    August 25, 2004
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    Ah...dabbling in the mine-fields of life again are we....? Hmmnn.. baiting the Great White? Chasing the clouds from the skies again...? Ah..what the hay..I'm IN! There hasn't been a good war in ages...


  • Maatkara gold member
    August 25, 2004
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    Thank you for your very thoughtful and informative comment, Nicolette. I appreciate the reference you've provided; it's always helpful to receive confirmation from qualified sources.

    ~ Gennelle


  • Nicolette gold member
    August 25, 2004
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    Deep and interesting!

    I prefer to think of myself as someone who would rather name the things that I like, than the things that I don't like. But I got to hand it to you, Genelle, on one hand (5 fingers) you've counted 6 of the things that I don't like of the human species! This is so creative and so perceptive - I would never have thought to do it haiku/senryu style!! Amazing!

    In the book "Boundaries" by Cloud & Townsend they name 4 kinds of people...(i) Compliant - say yes to the bad and can't set boundaries (ii) Avoidant - say no to the good and can not hear the good (iii) Non-responsive - critical and self-absorbed and sets boundaries against their responsibility to love and (iv) Controllers - the manipulators that violates the boundaries of others...

    I enjoyed this - very interesting reading!
    Nicolette

  • duana
    August 24, 2004
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    Your comemnt section is always so much fun!

  • Maatkara gold member
    August 24, 2004
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    Thanks for the reminder of the need for a glossary, Scott.

    ~ G

  • duana
    August 24, 2004
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    I like five


  • Maatkara gold member
    August 24, 2004
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    Thank you M! You're right about #5. I was still working on it...should have it right soon. My Oxford's more precise, I think I'll add a glossary in my Comments box.

    ~ G


  • MargaretG
    August 24, 2004
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    Well said

    Wow, YesYouCan teaches sadelmann a trick!
    So this is what you were doing all day!! I have come across a few of those, and they can get pretty destructive. Number 5 seems a little awkward to me.
    Have a great evening.


  • S A Adelmann
    August 24, 2004
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    schadenfreude - A malicious satisfaction in the misfortunes of others.

    malicious - Having the nature of or
    resulting from malice; deliberately
    harmful; spiteful: malicious gossip.

    malice - 1. A desire to harm others
    or to see others suffer; extreme ill will or spite.
    2. Law The intent, without just cause or reason,
    to commit a wrongful act that will result in harm to another.

    ideologue - An advocate of a particular ideology,
    especially an official exponent of that ideology.

    vilify - To make vicious and defamatory statements about.


  • Maatkara gold member
    August 24, 2004
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    Haha! Geez, Duana, you crack me up!
    Thank you, for giving me the nudge too.

    ~ G

  • duana
    August 24, 2004
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    Maatkara, I can't imagine what spurred this. You surprise me

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