You claim "God will save" ~
If you lock God out with hate
who will save God?
Author notes
KEY:
God >> Love
save >> make whole
hate >> fear, ignorance
[link to mp3 'One Of Us' by Joan Osborne]
Written May 17th, 2004
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- God is Dead by Glacian.
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I THINK I am understanding what u are saying I had to reread that lol blushing
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I don't think I'll ever fully be able to believe in him because of what was done to me. I'm trying so hard but anger just springs up. I'll continue to think about it....
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I suppose the best way to describe 'God' is as the highest creative force and potential we all have within us, which is Love (of the highest most unselfish kind) - As it says, "in His image"
It is our 'source', what our souls are made of.
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this was good...but...I just can't grasp God..
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another YES-poem !
how deeply heart-stirring are those words ...
how touching ...
thank you.
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Ok, it's a paradox; but if God is Love, and the greatest Love of all incarnate is the Christ in Y'eshua, how can He return if those claiming to worship him couldn't recognize Him because of their dogma, preconceptions, fear and ignorance?
Personify and empathize... and then think about it.
Did you see Tahuti's analogy?
~ G
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u raise some interesting philosophical questions but from a theological point of view God does not need saving because he never sinned or your could argue that one does not need saving if the do not feel lost ..oh this could go on an on... but great ryu ...u should take a look at my aphorisms ~ col
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Yes, it does clarify quite a bit. Your stuff is a little hard for me to grasp easily, I admit that much, though I should have seen the connection between the "religionists" and the hatred of God. I would say...that hate comes from both ends, believers and disbelievers. Personally, I haven't examined this notion of "love" in enough depth in my life to really comment on it, right now, it just seems like some hopeless ideal.
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Thank you, Glacian! I appreciate your thoughtful comments very much. If you noticed, I did put the 'key' to the terms used, a translation, in my author's comments.
A lot of the problem is that the higher nature of humanity (which is what 'God' really is - i.e."in His image"), the power of Love is rejected because of the unfortunate associations and connotations from organized religions. It's the resistance to dogma, which many rightly reject but too often 'throw the baby out with the bath water'. So, the 'hate' (born of ignorance or fear) is directed at those they feel wish to control them. Real Love controls no one. The shame is that the religionists are the ones turning away, and turning others off, Real Love - which IS 'God' within us all.
I hope that helps to clarify.
Namaste,
Gennelle
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Sometimes I really like these short little poems. someone mentioned a sledge hammer. I really like poems that hit you straight in the cerebral cortex, "WHAM!"
I have met the type of people I think this would hit home with on a personal level.
I don't think the average person who's rejected god rejects him out of hate, though. It took me several years and a lot of personal soul searching, and I didn't ultimately reach my own conclusion out of hate. I can't speak for others, though. I know I don't reject god out of hate - I reject god out of a stronger love for humanity. I don't feel that we need to resort to something higher than us. Personally, I think imagining ourselves as lower than something higher is hate...if I put my faith anywhere, it's in humanity's capacity to overcome itself and reach something higher without resorting to gods or something higher. Anyway, i'm rambling. Nice piece. I've read quite a few of your poems and have liked virtually all of them. A real poet - who knows how to write in form and all that- something I lack. I also enjoy your wit...heh, anyway, thanks for entering my contest - this one did make me pause and have to think, and for that, I applaud you. -
slightly depends on WHAT god is ?
if only in our minds then he shall be lost when forgotten
or . .
entity of magnitude that exists external to our thoughts. . then !? . can not god just recreate more to dwell over ?
thought provoking your writing is 
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Excellent, Tahuti!
~ Ma'at
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a man went looking for God
God came to him, and the man said
"Go away, I'm looking for God"
and so God left, bewildered. -
wonderfully done. God cannot save those who do not want to be saved... That is the bottom line... Susan
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Witty
I can never say anything about these oriental forms, all I can say is Well Said!
There is a subtle contradiction for me. God cannot be locked out, but ignored, rejected, trivialised, these are possible. What I have been taught is that free will allows us to do these things, and out of love and respect God permits it. It is not right, but coerced love is not love either. When we are convinced of our hard-heartedness, that is when the heart is hard no longer. Quite a paradox.
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Thought-provoking!
A perfect senryu that moves mountains within. Very thought-provoking...a question that lingers.. so much depth in these few lines. Breathtaking indeed! -
Words that hit like a sledge hammer. At least for those who are accountable.
The piercing capacity of your mind pales all... Thank you for offering something to ponder again, I hope many will. Take care,
Rage -
I love it.
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point well made...
Don
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