This question is for those who believe in preexistence and believe that we spirit, not a body.
How is it that we become sort of hypnotized at birth and awakened at death? How is it that we become so entrenched in believing that we are bodies and then at physical death, released from this belief?
The mind becomes attached to this form of spacious atoms of circling specs and then follows this form as it moves around in space and time. How ridiculous is that? We feel, or sense the signals sent to and from the body as the body sends the signals to and from the brain. We think we are in the brain!
We are hypnotized to believe we are a body.
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- "We Are Only As Sick As Our Secrets" "Q&A" by liquidmindforever.
400 points, ended October 4, 31 entries
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Congratulations...
Congratulations on your Silver Trophy! A very thought provoking question indeed.
lilangel'snemesis
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Well, this question is obviously not directed towards me, because I don't believe in preexistence.
One thing about this question intrigues me, though. It seems like a contradiction. You say that we are hypnotized to believe we have a body... yet you do so while typing the question over the Internet with your fingers--part of your body. This indicates to me that, while claiming to know that you are hypnotized to believe you have a body, yet in reality do not, you are still firmly attached to your body, in essence denying the very thing you believe.
I can't help but think that, if what you say is true, then you must not, in your heart of hearts, really believe it, or perhaps don't actually want to give up your body, or else you would have been released already. A person who is hypnotized is not aware that they are under hypnosis. A person who is sleeping doesn't know they are asleep.
Unless there is something deeper, like maybe our spirits are actually held captive by our bodies, and thus cannot be released until death, whether they become aware of their captivity or not. Perhaps that is the answer? Perhaps it is more of a captivity than a hypnosis?
I, for one, am quite happy that I have a body. After all, if I didn't, how would I write poetry?
Floating around as a bodiless spirit would be boring.
Congrats on making it to the finalists list! Write on, Poet, write on.
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Thank you for taking the time to read and comment. Your thoughts show that I have not clarified my ideas.
Yes, we all have a body, like most of us have a car. It is a tool that we use. What I am saying is that we are hypnotized to believe we are the body, itself, when in reality we are just experiencing the body like we would a car ride.
And since, I am hypnotized, I do truly believe I am the body, even though I am toying with the idea that this could be a fallacious belief. When I truly believe that I am not the body, I will be completely free.
Bonita
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For me the experience of physical pain always played a significant role. If I didn't recoil my hand from a hot stove sooner or later I may question the stove to begin with, or my hand for that matter. Pain gives the body boundaries, violate these boundaries in any way that 'harms' the body and all of a sudden the mind sends you a signal that you are being punished for the violation. because of pain I want to do as much as I can to avoid the sensation, all of which strengthens my belief in the whole apparatus. Then along come Jesus saying: The guiltless mind cannot suffer...
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I feel that perhaps God has intented for us to be asleep
to live a lesson is to truly learn, throughout life as we age, slowly we become separated from what we once thought created happiness, we lose our youth, our outer beauty, our love ones, and as we physically grow old, we spiritually grow.
sometimes while still in our youth, tragedy shakes and wakes us, some have evolved.
we are controlled by our senses, led by our minds
slowly it appear we are awakening
I do believe we are meant to, that it is all in God's hands
profound question
years ago would have seem very strange
God bless you my friend...
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Awakening
Forgetting, then remembering... or sleeping and then awakening... makes one much more appreciative of the beauty of Reality. From a number of sources I have been exposed to the idea that as spirit (souls) we CHOOSE to come into the world of form in order to learn specific lessons and to gain appreciation what we know as spirit but have become complacent to. I guess it's sort of like sleeping in this world of form, having a nightmare, then waking to a peaceful bedroom. Finding enlightenment while here in the body is waking to Reality (or at least partially?) before we leave the physical plane.
this is my understanding. Thanks for asking this excellent question.
Peace and blessings,
Rahad
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Luvit
Dear Poet,
Thank you for submitting Q2 "Birth & Death..." into my contest: "We are only as sick as our secrets."
There has been much written, studied and spoken of about this subject.
My personal understanding is open to shift, to not know, and to just allow
the question without feeling a need or drive to answer, but for the sake of the contest let's give it one tiny little shot.
It is taught by mystiques that a veil falls over us at birth, and the veil is one
of forgetfulness. It is taught in ancient Vedanta from the Upanishads to the
Bhagavada-gita that once man walked with the Gods in purity, but he fell away and became concerned only with fulfilling his conditional desires forgetting his
true Nature.
It is also taught that at the time of death that there is a release, perhaps a
mental/brain/soul release where one gives up all pretense and the original
nature is allowed to re-member.
Ruchira AdiDa Samraja taught that at the time of death one, for the easiest possible transition, must surrender totally into and not resist any thing from pain, fear, whatever. AdiDa taught while in the body that we will experience
a type of mandala after the spirit leaves the body which could be described
as an energy vortex, others call it the "bardo," where we will re-member our
past-life traumas and fears, and only when one has cleansed themselves as the
ancient Hindu Masters describe in the "Mahabharata" that death cannot touch
one such as this.
I think that is why the spiritual life if often the chosen path in the effort
to cleanse all the dross from the soul that it may ascend to the Higher Plane/s
of Eternal Oneness.
This is my understanding at this moment, I suspect that this may change the
more enlightened i become or perhaps not.
Again, this is a great query.
Welcome to the finalists
wishing you the best
till then
stay
liquid
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The thought has now occurred to me that somehow we allow ourselves to be hypnotized at birth and then, there is a wake-up cue set up at time of death to wake us up, just like a hypnotist does in this life - a snap of the fingers or such.
Not sure why I have these questions. I guess it’s really a puzzle to me as to how this could happen.
Bonita
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A slightly longer question than the one I asked Bonita, but a very good one nevertheless. It must be important for us to be hypnotised in this way. If we were aware of our origins perhaps we would not concentrate on the task in hand. We would return from whence we came at death, no further forward on our path.
David
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