This entry will disqualify, I'll tell it from the start.
I did not want to tell you why, (unhappy counterpart,
the reasons that exemplify why we have grown apart.)
Rule seven now prohibits my stubborn lack of art.
A poem that is really good will carry us away.
Its words by being understood, beyond what we can say,
building castles in the air would in ev'ry way,
need no pictures' deadwood! Nor in fact, should they!
Own thought to moderate our mind skews what we can see
Appreciate or nauseate depends on ends that flee.
Dissociate or permeate to match photography?
Imagination creates indeed, originality!
In truth I do not plan to leave in spite of this review,
but must report a heavy load of work to continue.
Author notes
All lines except the final couplet, are double-rhymed.
A contest entry
- HUGUENAUTIES CONTEST No.# 45 FOR MEMBERS OF HUGH WYLES’ FAVOURITES GROUP ONLY!! by huguenauties.
1200 points, ended June 24, 13 entries
Bronze trophy winner
• next poem in this contest, remove from contest
Do you see old people as stereotypes?
Comments
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Double Rhymes
Hey Dee... making a soft re-entry here... liked:
I did not want to tell you why, (unhappy counterpart,
the reasons that exemplify why we have grown apart.)
hope all is well... rut
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Lol! Very fun.
I like the internal cross-line rhymes.
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This is a great double rhyming sonnet. I very much enjoyed the read Terry. I did one of these my self. It was a real bugger to write. I think my new form would be even tougher to write as a sonnet.
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By coincidence, it relates to something AP related that I was just thinking of. May I borrow it? Just kidding.
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Imagination does lead to originality. That is my favorite line. Congrats on the bronze trophy. You have been hoodwinked because someone cares.
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Thank you for caring. There are times when that is very important!
I so very seldome have time to compete, there is added value to any trophy that comes along!
Pasted here again!
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Hood-Wink!
How I adore this! I used to always feel a need to have long authors notes and a picture with my poetry but recently found myself thinking along the lines you've so elgeantly penned in the third stanza 
Poetry and any form of writing really should flow feely from ones quill and not snuffled by some pretty colours and extras - love this
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Stay safe
~Manda
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Manda, my thanks
I appreciate your support more than you know! We agree that the right words paint own imagery far beyond any we can add! They plug into our memory and find personal places no one can even guess!
With eyesight dimmed by diabetes, I have a pet hate, beyond images--the use of busy bright backgrounds where the text must fight for survival!
My apologies for missing your comment here for so long.
Terry
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Of course we're f---g stereos!
And prototypes as well! At least, I'm a one-off. And some of the more mystic float right up to the land of Jung, and consort with other Archetypes!
I hate to hear people moan about the young (especially my grand-children), but when push comes to shove, where is the creativity? I mean, REAL creativity?
I am afraid, tho' that I fall into the same trap as the writer, located somewhhere between the metric rhyming stool, and the loose free-verse stool.
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Stereos indeed
Full-flavoured song
with accompanied
harmonies along
are all we need...
My Muse responds!
And I, discovered this far too late.
I was under sttack in a funk'n state
hardly worth a greeting.
That's gone
and I am not.
Yet.
Free verse honours every word.
Form responds to metric rhyme.
Enough said.
Thank you-- at long last!
Terry
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Ha!
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"I do not plan to leave". Good for you.
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Good heavens Judith, you wrote this in JULY
Good heavens Judith, you wrote this is JULY?
And I haven't been here since when? It is NOVEMBER!
It's a wonder you still count me as a friend!
It has been a particularly difficult time for me,
filled with stuff I'll not discuss
You've seen some of what was attacking me...
"I do not plan to leave," no fuss.
Thank you for all!
T
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this is very good... wish you luck in the contest.... Linda xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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I do agree that pictures should not be required and I rarely ever did include one. Now I am free membership so cannot even if I wanted to but the idea is one I support--that the words should conjure the mind into image and feeling. To depend on pics seems to me to stray from the essence of poetry.
What wonderful meter and phrasing!
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excellent
Well I add pics all the time.............sometimes I don't but it's a rarity for me if I don't I just think they bring the poem more to life...........
Some poems are so vivid they don't need pics I agree
Best of luck in the contest and welcome to the group
Susan~~~
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Thank you Susan, --and you've just shown me I should come here more often! It is a while since I used to be here a lot. Busy elsewhere...
Now I should look at what you have provided, written and not!
Terry
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In answer to your question, no I don't. I have great respect for those who have more life experience than me and don't like the idea of stereotyping anyone.
The message of your poem is well stated and valid. I sometimes include a picture and sometimes not. It all depends for me.
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You said, "I sometimes include a picture and sometimes not. It all depends for me." Exactly. Freedom to choose is the important thing here. When it is required, that freedom is gone.
I don't suppose this would apply to many anymore, but where I live, for years all I could have for access was dial-up, that tied up the party-line. Remember those? No server could reach the few of us who even HAD a computer past our fifty miles of trees trees trees.
Detailed things like photos took forever to load.
I did all manner of tasks on the side while waiting for even simple stuff to load. I crocheted a large afghan, did all the mending--do people even do that anymore? Made a shaggy 5 x 9 foot rya wallhanging, and knit socks for everyone....
Today's multitasking is split-screened!
Fun. Thanks for sending mine off.
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We had dial up back in the mid 90's and I remember pages taking forever to load. Sounds like you always made good use of your time while waiting and sometimes it did seem enough time to crochet an afgan.
I remember my father asking me to darn a pair of his socks once, something I had never learned, and I asked why he just didn't buy a new pair. lol
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I agree with you... pictures aren't( or shouldn't be) necessary for a poem. I do it sometimes just because I think it's kinda fun, but I always hope that my poems, with or without pictures, come across with their own visuals.
A great poem and I wish you best in the contest
Dee
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When the words came first, and an image is either created or found, that's fine. It's a free country. When no ideas exist, use of an image can start ideas flowing, it becomes a means to an end, but is the poem worth reading?
I agree, when it is fun to do, by all means, do.
It is the REQUIREMENT to do so that --for me anyway, is contrary to what should be spontaneous. In a roundabout way even this poem is related to images, in their absence!
Can't win.
Terry
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Ah, Terry-too, words can paint the world,
brighten the sky, dim the night,
free the thoughts attempting to escape,
as you prove with all your might.
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Thank you!
Coming from one with your prodigious skill,
who enfolds visual access to deep aesthetic
values and perceptions otherwise unknown,
such understanding of an opposing view will
exemplify as nothing else can, an authentic
grasp of Art in forms beyond usually shown!
Terry
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Not always did I have the time to draw
for each piece I wrote, for I was "tied"
to a paint brush, filling stacks of orders!
Only recently my vow to not post the words
without my own photo or drawing,
thus insuring I would draw once again!
Always atrracted both to the word
and the line, dating back to college
double major, that you might guess
was English and art. But art won out!
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A very stimulating write and one that you obviously feel strongly about
& I agree. poetry is about words and letting people's minds paint the pictures
mia
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It is good to know I am not alone in this, even though for some considerable time I have been a misfit in so many contests where images are either given or expected. Result, I had stopped competing. No great loss for readers, granted, but more so for me.
It is immensely encouraging to find I was not alone! Thank you!
Terry
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Very understandable, and you know what - I love this piece.
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Thank you! As a protest poem, it simply registers a complaint, but it seems to have made its point. Requiring a picture is a very recent thing, another influence of the Computer age. Hundreds of years of superb poetry needed no images to paint far better ones with words. It gives something to aim for. I am glad!
Terry
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Terry,
There are many of times that I purposely do NOT add photos to my writings because I do not want my words tainted by a preconceived notion of what the poem is about and I know a phota can do that. I applaud you for taking a stand on that. I am old fashioned in the idea that Haiku should never have photo's... and I see them posted all the time with pics attached. ( The whole purpose of a Haiku is to paint a picture with brevity)
As far as your double rhyme, you did it very well, so it worked without annoyance and enhanced the piece. I think this is a strong contender and you should do well in the contest.
On a side note... I get those error messages too, have enquired about them... sometimes when the site is overloaded at precisely the same time as your IEP it just happens. It isn't personal hun, just a nasty coinsidence unfortunately.
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Thank you Susan! Multitudes of classic poets applaud you! Bravo!
I do not intend to remove images entirely--far from it. The main value, when a poet has nothing different to say, is as a kick-starter. That it influences content goes without saying.
The problem is that it also limits it. An independent poem soars off on simile and metaphor--things few images can support. An independent poem, if well written, is evocative, filling different meanings for different readers. An independent poem reaches interior depths in the Human Condition that no image can display.
That an image limits us should be axiomatic!
For those reasons I object to compulsory use of a picture.
I appreciate your support!
Terry
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Dear Terry,
I have a little secret that i will to you impart
in view of your asserted situation:
that whether poetry's accompanied by graphic art
to my mind earns no extra approbation.
Although a worthy painting may poetic words inspire
the poetry itself must stand alone
and, if the words themselves possess sufficient grace and fire,
I'd just as soon peruse them on their own.
Wil Shakespeare never needed illustrations for his writing.
Da Vinci, without words, found Mona Lisa quite exciting.
Thankyou for your poetic entry with which I have no quibble.
Good luck in the voting.
Applause, love and hugs, XXX Hugh (R.)
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For Your Kind and Generous Deed
In response to King Hugh, heartfelt thanks,
for coming at once to my timely rescue!
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Feeling a dunce I'd sent verbal phalanx,
for the nonce bashing the witness cue
proffered by art, never verbally induced.
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Emphatic, my part, yes, quite overdone--
too loud at the start, and nowhere reduced
accepting apart, my fate: oblivion.
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In spite of the grief, still to persist--
It's such a relief not to be set aside!
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My fervent belief's still allowed to exist,
convinced that chief meanings on metaphors ride!
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This doubled rhyming is really great fun,
proving with timing, it can surely be done!
The Ancient Crone,
Terry
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Dear Terry, I like the double rhyming in each line and if you don't want to use a picture I'm sure that's fine and no one would disqualify you for that.
Reading your comments it sounds like you've had computer problems, I hope they are all fixed now. Good luck in the voting.
Joan
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Thank you Joan. I'm glad the double rhymes did not annoy. I'll be sure to pass that along to my Muse who was really productive there! (I'd love to take the credit but fear she'd abandon me!)
About computer troubles, even getting a new computer did not help.
No one else has similar problems. How can I be so lucky? ??
Terry
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Great poem..hope your have a lighter load soon..life can certainly get us over booked at times...Good luck in the contest...Darlene
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Work-loads are voluntary. Repeat that ten times. It is easy to sit back and let someone else do the work; I mean if some poor schmo is willing to do it, who are we to stop them, right?
Terry
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Your lines with extra rhymes give a frenetic feeling, as if you are pushed before a strong wind! I enjoyed reading, but I hope that your condition will ease up a bit in the summer. Many blessings and hugs, M
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My third attempt to reply
First, my computer malfunctioned--I thought. Rebooted twice. Then I discovered no dial-tone. My 'puter was down without dialtone for 12 hours. This is unrelated as far as I know.
VERY scary this time, I had logged out from my other user name at Winklings and logged in here as Terry-too. Normal procedure.
On the blue border above, Terry-too was displayed as intended. Fine so far? I thought so.
I typed out a longish reply about the intended double-rhyming metric form, and why I had edited it somewhat-- (Right now for no reason I see "Unable to post your comment. Body is required, or at least a subject.")
Last time in the same space I saw bright blue, "DeeCrepit, Error adding comment, please try again." It is not there yet but when I click "submit" do I get "Error # 12007" and a disabled computer? I was definitely in here as Terry-too.
Last time it would not even let me copy the message I would have sent, lost now. This time I have a copy of this.
If this is deleted because it is a public protest, by e-mail you will know I am being harassed again. There is a reason I have grown snarky. Two years it took. Nobody believed me before.
My family tells me "Just LEAVE."
Not yet.
Terry
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Now it will not let me edit 12 hour to 24 hours, morning to morning.
Terry
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You are staying.
Dear Terry,
There's no need to worry you will not be disqualified for lack of picture, we understand free members cannot add one, so just ignore that rule, only Silver and Gold can post one.
I like your poem, it's a very honest poem and gives me insight into some of the problems we've been having.
Good luck in the voting.
Jenelda
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I spend my spare time teaching here, so I have a silver. No excuse.
Mostly this attitude points out that a poem should not need a picture, and displays what a stubborn cuss I am.
Old age does have its privileges!
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Too right it does Terry.
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I don't know what the criteria for the contest was... but I like the poem you have written. It's tight in rhyme, rhythm and language.
This felt serious and yet humorous as well. Of late, my positive contst experiences have been limited. Typically, if I am inspired by something in the contest, I've been excluded for some reason like: not being one of their friends, not being a member of a particular group, having too many or not enough trophies etc...
But that's Ap...
Anyway, great write. *huG*s and best wishes always... ~Genie~
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Hey Genie!
Great to find you here! Have you joined? If not, please do! Friendly folks here! I saw that Lita is here already! Many years ago a member invited me here...
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The criteria? That was the reason for the poem. Rule 7 "demands" a picture. I took issue with that. Through the history of poetry, no pictures were expected. A really good poem stands on its own. If it doesn't a picture lends the crutches.
Unpopular attitude I know, and it will disqualify mine for sure but that's OK.
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Take a splendid poem now, flawless, evocative, beautiful. Match it with the perfect picture and the double WHAMMY tosses my one-lung job into oblivion. I expect that; would be shocked if it did not.
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My attitude made it feel serious, but I am delighted you felt the humour too. That was a bonus. I had great fun writing double poems laterally joined by enjambments, with some vertically too. Besides, meeting such challenges delays senility!
Do consider joining here. Any group that puts up with me has to be good! and
Terry
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