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About Friendship



Enjoyed your poem!

  . . .

And then the converse of your verse
just when everything is shot,
when darkest days your fate will curse,
find out who your friends are not.

Terry 2008

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Lessons learned.

Would they have been "fairweather friends"?

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  • Judith Chandler
    October 8

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    I am at the point where I am so confused about the whole friendship question! But I like what you said here.


    • Terry-too silver member
      October 10
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      I have it on good authority that all the friends anyone really needs are one or two, and it is good to know who they are.



      Acquaintances are greatest fun
      but they won't miss us when we're gone.

      And knowing what it is they do,
      just as well it's just a few.

      My best friend, more my sister than if I'd have had one, dates back sixty + years. Once while we were living in separate provinces, I suddenly thought of her and was about to dial when she spoke! We still have not solved that puzzle. She had not dialled yet either!

      I helped her thorough her chemo and radiation, she helped me through the stress that wrecked my health, but mostly we just phone. A true friend.

      ---------------------

      PS,

      That verb: "I'd have had" is doubly compound.

      Warning: what follows can be boring if you reject grammar.
      Also, do not confuse with compound and complex sentences.
      That's another country! This is about VERBS.

      "I'd have had,"
      if I would + have had ["could" also possible]

      'had' by itself is simple past: as in 'she had a car.'
      but when it acts together with an auxiliary "have", 'had' becomes a past participle to form 'have had' a tense that in French is called "passé indéfini," a compound tense complete in itself. It has meanning also in the past: Indefinite past.

      Compare the meanings of 'I had' and 'I have had'

      Now put 'I would' (I'd) as part of the compound tense above.
      It becomes a compound compound past tense. I would have had.

      Straightforward. 'I would' can also stand alone.
      [Who wants this one? "I would."]
      So put that possibility with the rest of it, especially when preceded by "if" and get 'if I would have had..." there is doubt, right? The puzzle emerges in its meaning.

      Interesting how so little means so much, as a subjunctive!
      Clarifying the subjunctive: "If (only) I'd have had."

      Now just watch, somebody will challenge it!
      That is a compound sentence. Two principal clauses together.

      Terry


  • Emerald Lass
    July 30

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    HOODWINK

    What you say rang the bell in my head and answered a question I've been asking myself about why my former friends were friends and now why they seem not to be.


  • AutumnGypsy gold member
    July 30

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    Hoodwink!!

    Yes, sometimes we learn this the hard way, most are fairweather friends, it is good to know those who stick around through hard times will be there always. Nicely written. Best to you finr poet


  • MargaretG
    August 9, 2008

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    I like this verse, particularly since it replies to mine with a strongly stated and valid corollary. Perhaps these friends disappear when fear is stronger than love; one does not wish to think that their love was insincere (though that must be true, at times).
    This is concise and well formed, I enjoyed it!


  • Matt Holck
    August 9, 2008
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    I think it's the ones that remain or don't


  • Terry-too silver member
    August 7, 2008
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    Enter did not work for me.

    That's OK. Like, wat ELSE is new?
    At least I tried.

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