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most wondrous thing



she was twelve seconds

from an abortion
and they bathe her in a shroud of blood

 

gums hang from her jowls
twitching with deep regret in a lounge chair

 

the dish towel clings to her thighs
like an infectious disease
which could take on water

but not change

 

the floor scrubs its texture
and the rattle in pink lungs makes a
fast knocking sound

 

she tirelessly drags her feet
to impart a sense of motivation

 

light in the room does not
reflect pigments off her skin
discontinued from use
and arched underneath curtains

 

piles of laundry twist across the room
as strands of lint play

with a breeze from outside

 

if she had just been the victim
like a famous person
or some maniac devoid of verse
people might not have come into her house
to take each child
that had survived the sexual desire
of a past husbands cock

 

dryness stuck to her breasts like starch
hardening on ruined nipples
still in wait for a touch that lingered
or at least wasn't flush
with bites or amniotic fluid

 

sweaty flesh hangs off her body
a tissue that decreases feminine hygiene
to a common slouch

 

the wall was an almond shade
covered with photographs

from the family line
and it all fell into place like
a breakfast buffet

 

the fruit in one image was her
grandmothers wrist
and the table leg in another
was her cousins earlobe

 

indeed life made human ties rich
but some came only
to the open of an envelope
with a carousel of faces that stop
long enough to see them leave

 

a lot of times she just laid
in the street
in the pungent odor of cabs
fixed in a terror of tampons
birth control
and dishes

 

if one thing stayed intact
it was the dead part
weening off a tit that threw up
instead of milked

 

behind torn underwear streaked with blood
she wonders if her baby
would have rotted in the womb
kissing the inside of its confinement
only to count the hours

 

her hands tremble on the edge of kitchen sink
as the spirit of a new birth
drowns in water

 

her elbows are fashioned with liver spots

 

certain areas of her face are soiled with pits
and bashed flat cheekbones

 

the mirror displays fished over limbs
seemingly thrown from the side of a boat
connected by mistake

 

some might call the way she looks
a configuration of old tramp and monster
met in the middle

 

she knew misery could be bought in
bronze alcohol filled containers
a dark veil on her back
with its tide of messy fetus trails

 

plastic babies flash in her cabinets
on a haunted skin ridge
that could deplete or make her ill

 

she may not get to doctor the room with air
before the white coats descend
carrying off her legs
her arms
her hairy pussy

 

she stands for a moment
to look back on one of their little nameless heads
sewer flushed
possibly bound somewhere in the drain
and she knows if each had a plot
it would look like homicide

 

the most wondrous thing left was damage
but if that absolved
the last bruise would display her stretch marks

 

she might peel

 

photographs would be eaten
and no one could do anything otherwise

 

she looks down once
while the weight of a tremble
ravages her stomach
so soft
and filled with unborn screams

 

 

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  • just rob gold member
    June 23, 2008

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    My Reaction was nearly Physical

    There is beauty in the abyss.

    There is a wee ghost that I never knew, never knew of, untill the largest knife was ground to fit just so.
    This nasty, gloriously profound portrait peeled back three decades of scar tissue to find a bloody home in my wound.

    This wretch, this dismal shrew, has filled my eyes with horrors - physical hallucinations that dry-heave themselves into my poor now.

    My friend; it's been a long time since I reacted so strongly to a poem. I swear, I can almost smell her sour, ripening, selfishness.


  • Naridill gold member
    May 6, 2008

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    Raw imagery. From weird flashes and decripit reasoning. I found this relevant and written beautifully [perhaps not of daises and sensual but it feels real]. The movement in the arms of phrasing - from one stage, to the end of story. I felt the realism beneath and through out. It's as the world should reflect on the issue [sometimes].

    Some stanzas felt a little under in comparison to others - but the piece on a whole - is brilliant.


  • catz Moderators member
    April 12, 2008

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    Even poetry can come from the black abyss of inhumanity. This piece is a sad look at the reality of those who abuse themselves with wrong doing and hidden compassion.

    I don't know why this piece says to me that you you somehow speak from knowledge deep within you. The misery of this seems covered with the sadness of uncaring irresponsibility. Of hopelessness unrecognized.

    James, you've written an outstanding piece of work here and I can certainly see why it comes with a Gold trophy

    Sorry it's been so long since I've read your work, but I'll be back more often.


    Dee


  • circletakesthesquare
    June 29, 2007

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    Grainy, gruesome imagery. I loved it. There were a few clever little moments that grabbed me, my favorite being the family portrait/buffet part. I also loved
    "if one thing stayed intact
    it was the dead part
    weening off a tit that threw up
    instead of milked"
    Even though it was very engaging, I felt little sympathy for the poem's subject for some reason, maybe because I didn't have any reason to like her.


    • jaunty pill gold member
      July 5, 2007
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      I understand what you mean. As a reader I didn't really intend for you to feel sympathy for her anyways. She wasn't a very likable person and the poem obviously shows how truly grotesque she was.

      She is the underbelly of family values where disgust and self-delusion meet.


  • miss midnight
    June 27, 2007
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    your words are beautiful,
    but the picture they paint
    is heartbreaking.

    • jaunty pill gold member
      July 5, 2007
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      Poetry is often heartbreaking. I think without sorrow, there couldn't be beauty, because we would not hold things up with such importance if there wasn't a fear that we might lose it.


  • TerrifiedSky silver member
    June 16, 2007

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    she knew misery could be bought in
    bronze alcohol filled containers
    a dark veil on her back
    with its tide of messy fetus trails

    This, by far, made this poem bring chaos in a psyche already flawed. It made the poem very real to me. I'm not sure if you've read much about self-abortions and all the legal stuff that went along with metal coat hangers. But this poem, as cliche as this might sound, reminds me of one of those desperate women, raped by a husband that only knows force, plagued by children too numerous to mention, and shamed by the hope and possibility to get out with some form of sanity intact. As if, through some great plot, hunger and determination will improve the lives of those unwanted.

    she looks down once
    while the weight of a tremble
    ravages her stomach
    so soft
    and filled with unborn screams

    Cruelty is not something we can master, it's not some random act of fate. It's intentional, even if it's subconscious. Our lots in life may not be perfect, but at least, if we've got the will-power, or some glistening ray of hope, we can improve our station a nd feel better about what we offer.

    I had to read this many times James before I could comment. We're all diseased and plagued with some demon that leaves us willing to do the unthinkable, the dispicable to make the pain go away. This brought about a lot of shadows for me, and I had to find a way to change my perception.

    I'm always awed by the feelings you seem to find inside me. I do believe, when you're all published and around, that I shall fill my library with your works. Truly inspiring James.

    Much love,
    Jessica

    • jaunty pill gold member
      June 16, 2007
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      Oh and yes I remember reading about all the legal stuff with coat hangers and self-abortions, scary.

      Have you ever seen " if these walls could talk "?...There's a really sad scene in which Demi Moore gives herself an abortion and it is all really terrible and she ends up bleeding to death on the floor.

      This poem is not based on that but I thought I would mention it nonetheless. I will say straight up that this poem is about an actual woman who has come and gone in my life...I always write from what I know.

      There is no other way I think.

      Love you.

      - James

      • TerrifiedSky silver member
        June 16, 2007
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        I've seen it. But writing what YOU know always evokes WHAT I KNOW to errupt. A lot of us, that are made mothers, are never prepared, never allowed to feel the love, the connections and growth that come from it. You're poem brought more than that alive for me. My sister was that woman, that chose desperation over motherhood.

        Much love,
        Jessica

    • jaunty pill gold member
      June 16, 2007
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      That was the best comment I have gotten in a long time....I read yours and stuck it in word pad...Than I got stuck behind some other shit after we talked and didn't get around to leaving proper feedback , etc.

      You know that I love when you stop by and really if it wasn't for you this site would feel sort of stale...Lately people come and go but we always seem to stay in touch.

      I really do find solace in your works and your aura.

      Thank you for being.

      Love always ,
      James

      • TerrifiedSky silver member
        June 16, 2007
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        I'm honest to a fault James. I don't mind putting my feelings out there because there's no shame in being tainted and placing your wounds in the open. It's what I'm good at I understand life takes you away, I know you'll give me one hella comment when you get the time. I've tried to leave this place over and over, never happens. I'm drawn to your poetry because in general, it describes emotions that I never seem to find the words to convey. In all honesty, your poetry is the only reason I keep coming back.

        (On a different note, I read three of Slaughter's poems, I must say, another obsession for me =D)

        Much love,
        Jessica

        • jaunty pill gold member
          June 19, 2007
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          He told me that he got a bunch of comments yesterday, said he nearly fainted when he logged on!

          Thanks so much for the compliment Jessica, you always know the right words to make smile.

          Life may be cruel, but at least we can find beauty in all the mess, through poetry and through friendship.

          much love,
          James


  • truembrace
    June 12, 2007

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    I see people all too often coming down hard on their children - their children knowing that all their mother knows is "pain" and yelling and some sort of regret. At 37, I can't imagine having such regret whatsoever. Far too many, as you implied, have children that don't seem to value them /are capable of being caregivers that are nurturing. There are others that would give anything for that chance, but the luck of the draw leaves them without children.

    Always the irony of how much is taken for granted in this life.

    Well said...

    • jaunty pill gold member
      June 13, 2007
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      Life is often cruel, I guess that is the easiest way to sum it up. That doesn't mean we should all descend into madness, but it is a part of our lives that can't be entirely done away with.

      Some of us are born in better situations than others, it's merely a throw of the dice. I easily could have been born in Somalia or in a war-torn country, but I was born in the US. It's all luck and destiny.

      No one knows where they are going to end up, but unlike animals, human beings can actually work to get out of there situation, rather then just falling to pieces due to severe changes. We are adaptable, our greatest strength.

      Thanks so much for the comment.

      - James


  • Crash Into Me
    June 10, 2007

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    oh god...

    james;;

    mmmmmh this could be on a campaign ad...
    it's hideous in its meaning but extremely wonderful that it brought out such a loathing feeling...
    i can picture it in my mind...

    you are extremely talented.
    and ive missed this...
    the feelings you can create...


    -your minx


    • jaunty pill gold member
      June 11, 2007
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      You flatter me so, my minx. I am speechless with smiles.

      • Crash Into Me
        June 13, 2007
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        i adore you.

        hehe;;

        speechless with smiles...hmmmm i wonder... could there be something else i could do to make you speechless...


        -your minx


  • maria
    June 5, 2007

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    Hi James. Hope all is going well with you. This poem of yours is painful to read. Not the words but the reality behind the words. This is life. This is the life of a woman. There are a lot of what if and what would questions that pop into the mind of the she ... who is every she. Every flesh and blood human wanderer who tries to understand why life is so difficult. On a planet which is too often cold and confusing.
    Thank you.

    Maria


  • ArtFullyMe gold member
    June 4, 2007

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    Strange how all the way through, one side of me wants to see her as vile, and the other side says.....but you know it wasn't her... She's the central image here, but I don't see 'her' what I see are the eyes affected by whoever 'she' is .. I see a lot of she is ..she knows but .. it's all negative.. there is no hint of understanding the 'condition' ... just judgement...

    which works rather well .. as a scream against abuse ..but leaves me no path through to something higher..

    You have always written pain.. very well, and this one is no exception..



  • shirk
    May 29, 2007

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    "The dish towel clings to her thighs
    Like an infectious disease
    Which could take on water
    But not change"

    It remindes me of a fertil woman for some reason which contradicts what I thought aobut the previous stanza. So by taking the previous stanza back into consideration..."Which could take on water" makes me think that she can get pregnant but it won't change her...won't make her a mother.

    As in being pregnant doesn't make you a mother...doesn't make you ready...which I quite like. can you tell me if I'm right?

    I also love the other imagry-this is the twisted shit that I like! I'm glad someone else can write it and it doesn't make me feel like a monster anymore.

    You're too good. Overall I have no critiques or anything that could be changed. Thanks for the poem, my friend.

    • jaunty pill gold member
      June 11, 2007
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      I don't want to give anything away, but I will tell you that you are very very close to the truth behind this poem. And I completely agree with your statement, that the state of being pregnant doesn't mean that you are a mother or ready to be one, unless that is what you want from the situation. I think far too many young women and men for that matter take having children too lightly.

      I had a friend in high school who got pregnant and she was totally incapable of being a mother, yet she thought that she was going to be the perfect mom straight away.

      It's awful how bad the conditions are for some small children, because their parents weren't ready.

      In my opinion, I think you should be absolutely certain that the time is right and prepared for it to happen if you aren't planning for it, but aren't working to prevent it either.

      And I wouldn't worry, the only monsters are the people who fake having talent, but don't. You're a great writer, always know that.

      much love,
      James


  • Kalima
    May 29, 2007
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    This was the best poem I have read, very amazing. And it had good imagery. I don't believe in abortions. But your words captured an amazing picture for me. I love it! Keep it up! Stacey

    • jaunty pill gold member
      May 30, 2007
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      Hey Stacey, thanks for the kind words. I'm glad you liked this poem cause it took a long time to put together.

      love to you,
      James


  • misselaineous
    May 27, 2007

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    i think the last stanza is a poem in itself

    the rest is hard hitting and imageful
    and a bit heavy for my sad and fuddled brain,
    your word use, vocab and metaphor are as stunning as they ever are
    bravo
    elaine

    • jaunty pill gold member
      May 30, 2007

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      Thanks so much dear. It's so nice to hear from you as I know when you comment it means the piece really touched you.

      much love,
      James

  • A True War Story
    May 27, 2007

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    I've read it once. Here's my immediate reaction

    I like the first stanza, very powerful, but I feel a somewhat strained connection moving from the first stanza to the second stanza. I don't know what gums hanging from her jowls has to do with an abortion, but I do interpret the loungechair as perhaps being from the doctors office.

    Again, I think the third stanza is very powerful, I know very little about the abortion process, but I imagine it must be very traumatizing. And again, my problem is the stanza break. The way you use the word change leaves ambiguity as to the kind of word, a noun or a verb, which confuses me going into the next stanza.

    The fifth stanza seems at odds with the first. If she's twelve seconds away from an abortion, I wouldn't imagine her dragging her feet, unless you're speaking metaphorically, in which case you may just be going over my head.

    I really like the line "lighting the room does not/reflect pigments off her skin" It's another very powerful piece of imagery. I also like the line about the lint playing with the breeze from outside, but I have trouble with the laundry for the same reason I have trouble with the dragging of the feet, it seems out of place twelve seconds before an abortion.

    I realize the shock factor of using words like cock and pussy, but I'm not sure they either add or detract in this case, but they certainly do stick out.

    Skipping down a few stanzas, when you open with "the wall was an almond shape" I have no concrete hold on what wall you're talking about. The most likely wall is the one in the abortion clinic, but I'm just not sure, and not being sure, I'm a bit lost going into the next lines about the photographs, and especially lost with the breakfast buffet simile.

    Yet another powerful part: "indeed life made human ties rich/but some came only/to the open of an envelope" but here you lose me again before "with a carousel of faces that stop long enough to see them leave"

    Why tampons, birth control, and dishes? It's definitely an interesting juxtaposition, but I'm not sure I understand it.

    Perhaps my last major problem was in the stanza "certain areas of her face are soiled with pits/and bashed flat cheekbones" Great imagery, very concrete, but it's another ambiguity issue for me. I can read it two ways, (this is hard for me to explain). Perhaps I can explain it best with a question... is her face soiled with bashed flat cheekbones? I don't see "bashed flat cheekbones" as something that soil a face, disfigure it, yes, but not soil it, so when I the sentence as both of those things soiling her face, I have problems. Not the greates explaination, but I hope it is coherent.

    On the larger picture, sometimes I feel like I'm a bit lost in vocabulary. Yours is a very large one, and I've been reading Tim O'Brien lately, so his extremely sparing use of complex language has problably slanted my bias a bit. I would just say moderate it a bit more. The other large-picture issue was one of continuity; a few times in the poem I didn't feel quite so much like I was reading something about a woman who's twelve seconds from an abortion.

    I really like this. The last staza is, in my opinion, by far the best, even the last line is the best. So, knowing that you never post a final version of a piece here, good luck editing, and feel free to disregard anything I have to say because hey, what do I know, I'm not even out of high school yet.

    • jaunty pill gold member
      May 30, 2007
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      I'll start off by dealing with a major point you bring up throughout your comment. This poem is not about a woman whose twelve seconds from an abortion. The act of abortion is included in the piece and is a very important part of it, but the extent of time in which the story hidden within takes place is much longer than twelve seconds.

      And this piece also does not take place in a clinic, but instead various locations over a span of time, which is why you might have found some of the various images you mentioned confusing.

      In terms of the shock factor of "cock" and "pussy", I don't use them to shock people and I know that's not what you meant by mentioning that, I'm just clearing that issue up for anyone else who might ask. I know that in the real word people don't try to "clean up" the words for human genitalia.

      More often than not you hear people say "cock", "pussy" and "clit" instead of the more polite words like "penis", "vagina" and "clitoris". I just prefer to not beat around the bush. If that's how it's said outside on the street and fits with the idea of the poem, I use it.

      As for:

      "certain areas of her face are soiled with pits
      and bashed flat cheekbones"

      It's meant in a purely literal way. I like to take words that often are thought to mean only one thing and twist them to my liking to use in my poetry. The word "soiled" often is used to mean "dirty", so basically all I am saying is that her face is "disfigured, dirty and disgusting with pits and bashed flat cheekbones". It's a play on words.

      And finally- vocabulary. I think my mix of complex and common words is something inherent to me as a writer. English was my strong-point in school and that is reflected in my massive vocabularly. I disagree on the point that there is too much of it in this piece, however I understand where you are coming from and am glad you mentioned it. Honesty is best afterall.

      And don't beat yourself up so much, there are just as many amazing writers still in high school or even in middle school on this site as there are seriously talented adults.

      Thanks so much for the beautiful critique. I was seriously overjoyed to see this comment come through in my notes. It's been an honor speaking with you.

      much love,
      James


  • neurosine gold member
    May 26, 2007

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    Very fleshy piece, both literally and figuratively. This was beautiful in its visceral laking of apathy and horror. It gave everything to the subject. A life, a circumstance, a soul. No criticism, just a sustained sense of awe.

    • jaunty pill gold member
      May 27, 2007
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      Hello friend. I'm glad that you commented and enjoyed the piece. When you write and especially feel there is so much life in the person you talk about, sometimes a poem can become a vessel of truth...An opening into one's own life...The good and the bad.

      Thank you truly for the comment.

      All the best ,
      James


  • bw43
    May 26, 2007

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    ok i am back with a fresh mind, i think?

    so i'm here to try to decipher this stanza by stanza and see if i grasped it or not.

    the first stanza made me think of a woman in stirrups getting ready for an abortion, and people giving her dirty judgemental looks... like those looks that could kill... ? is that what your metaphor meant?

    the next two lines is still going with what i understand of her in stir ups. although, now that you mention "lounge chair" it makes me think that maybe she is not at a clinic but doing one of those home-made abortion types... with hangers or whatever.... eek.. getting mental images and feeling uncomfortable unpleasant senstations...

    the dish towel on her thighs... was that there to wipe up the mess? i'm sure it also has some other meaning that i am not getting. like maybe... she is having an abortion, but it doesn't change anything... maybe she is a gutter girl.. and its not the first abortion... but one of many... ? and she is just careless and doesn't bother to protect herself from getting pregnant? maybe she is a hooker? eh... i dont know. how my mind races trying to figure out what u mean.

    "rattle in pink lungs" does this mean heavy breathing? like maybe the abortion was done without any anesthesia... so its her breathing at the pain?

    hmm... going down all the way to the stanza that ends in 'a past husbands cock' it makes me think maybe she isn't really having an abortion. maybe she is having the baby, but "they" have come to take it... like maybe HRS or the dept. of family and children? because maybe she is an unfit mother? eh... i dont know...

    the next two stanzas depict very vivid pictures... kinda gross too... sad... it kind of sounds like regretful, i dont know why.

    reading through it kinda doesnt sound like she wanted to have an abortion. it sounds like maybe circumstance made her to have it?

    ok i went and read the rest of it again.

    this is my final thought on it: it sounds like maybe it is about a girl who was the victim of incest and got pregnant and then was left to have an abortion. and she was banished from her family, because they looked down on her as if it was her fault.

    i dont know where i got all that from. i'm probably way off.

    but that is what i understand of it.

    i enjoyed reading it

    can not find anything to critique. sorry

    • jaunty pill gold member
      May 26, 2007
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      I think it sounds like you get it more than you realize...Which proves the poem really works and is able to cause readers to think more deeply than they ever have before. As for the questions you asked...I'll simply say that you discovered your own conclusions without me having to say anything...lol. Your final thought of the piece is a great way to interpret what you read and I will simply say that all in all you are not far off. Don't want to give too much away.

      It is lovely to get on and see a comment from you. Especially one that tries their hardest to dive underneath the poems skin.

      All the best and thanks again love.

      - James


      • bw43
        May 27, 2007
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        thanks for clarifying the missing pieces for me. Yey... I'm glad I got the general jyst

  • bw43
    May 26, 2007
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    i'm not sure i get it. but i will come back to read it again with more time and to analyze it more thoroughly.


  • Barbie
    May 26, 2007

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    Is it you who says: "show, don't tell"? Either way, that is what I would say you need to do - in the second half of this piece, you really get going, but youconcentrate a lot on things that don't need to be said in the first. A personal thing: the word 'clinic' doesn't sound right in the first stanza, how about "and they bathe her in a glaze of blood"? These lines: "gums hang from her jowls
    twitching with deep regret in a lounge chair" are good and I see what you're trying to do with the juxtaposition of opposites here but 'in a lounge chair' is much more on the tell side than on the show. Describe the chair more if you include it at all. In this stanza: "she tirelessly drags her feet
    to impart a sense of motivation
    the likes of which
    appears to be human sorrow" again it's very well written but the last two lines needn't be there. The description: "or some maniac devoid of verse" is quite, quite brilliant. "her hands tremble on the edge of kitchen sink" - I want to read this with a 'the' between 'of' and 'kitchen'.
    This line: "her elbows are fashioned with liver spots" brilliant.
    These lines: "certain areas of her face are soiled with pits
    and bashed flat cheekbones" - not necessary.
    I don't think you need this: "some might call the way she looks
    a configuration of old tramp and monster
    met in the middle" - you've shown us how she looks, you don't need to tell us too.
    Great last line.
    Sorry for pulling it apart, but you did ask...
    Barbie. Xx

    • jaunty pill gold member
      May 26, 2007
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      No thank you for pulling it apart. A lot of what you liked were some of my favorites as well and some that you didn't I will have to take a second look at. It's really comments like yours that help make this place seem a lot more useful again...Especially for a serious poet like myself who is always willing to hear helpful and constructive feedback. When I decide to make some changes, etc I'll send you an IM or whatnot and you can hit this up again.

      Thanks so much, truly!

      All the best and take care ,
      James

      • Barbie
        May 26, 2007
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        Thank you and you're welcome. It's always nice to have something good/something that could be good to read on here. I'll be waiting for that IM, you'll just have to hope it's not after my principles of modern science exam (why must I study it, my subject is maths damnit, not physics)... Barbie. Xx

        • jaunty pill gold member
          May 26, 2007
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          Barbie ,

          I have finished up the changes and took some of your advice and made a personal choice with the rest...You have been most helpful to me at this early insomnia induced morning.

          - James


  • TerrifiedSky silver member
    May 26, 2007
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    I shall return...


  • NurseChilly gold member
    May 26, 2007

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    one thing i will say... try not to get too wrapped up in over complicating pieces with too much simile and metaphorical/image laden stances ... i've been learning myself over a while to pare-down somewhat on over usage..

    it can look a wee bit pretentious.... - and I don't mean you are.. just it can be seen that way...

    lolololol

    i'm off again.. to ponder9o

    • jaunty pill gold member
      May 26, 2007
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      Funny that you mention metaphors and similes as I have been using them less frequently as well...But this poem calls for it I think. It really comes down to what message you are trying to convey and if you are willing to let the piece speak for itself. Certainly noted, Although it already was.

      And I know what you meant silly...

      - J

  • NurseChilly gold member
    May 26, 2007
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    a raw and gritty piece...

    i may touch base with this again James, but being as it touched into spots with inaccuracy about medical matters (I was a gynae theatre nurse for 12yrs) I feel I can't comment fully on it..

    but I do appreciate your hard work in putting a poem together...

    sorry hun... this just clouded my judgement



    good luck in the contest though

    • jaunty pill gold member
      May 26, 2007
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      Hey there.

      As for the inaccuracy of medical matters in the poem, Maybe you might point them out to me? As I honestly was not trying to be medical in any sense of the word...More bound to the experiences that she was going through and the trials and tribulations. I can see why you might see things in a different manner being a nurse for twelve years...But again, I wasn't actually trying to add any parts from a serious medical perspective. I would however love to know where it does sound that way nonetheless so I can consider if that is what I actually want.

      Thanks again love!



      - James

      • NurseChilly gold member
        May 26, 2007
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        wont hugely debate here hun.... but have sent detailed IM to you

        I take the fact that people can write about exactly what and when and who they want to... so ... I shall say

        good luck in this contest...

        it does have grit, albeit a bit smudged with inaccuracy in parts.. lolol ---- hence the IM


        will explain more, I'm sure

        • jaunty pill gold member
          May 26, 2007
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          I shall check out that IM as we speak...Just putting some toast in the old toaster. And thanks for the good wishes for the contest.


  • JustBe gold member
    May 26, 2007

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    Zinfandel

    Certainly this is a showcase of gritty reality, and your penchant for rich description is frigging everywhere. I have to confess that my wine-pickled noodle isn't really up to in-depth analysis ... especially of a poem of such length. First impression (with which I may later disagree) is that perhaps this runs a bit long, but I must mention the wine again. Jury is out on that one.
    This line struck me awkward:
    which could take on water and not change
    "...and not change" seems like it could be better integrated.
    I seriously daoubt that anything I've jsut said holds much water, so I'll have to come back to this at nothing o'clock tomorrow morning.
    It's an intelligent write, and I doubt strongly that you just cranked this out in 15 minutes.
    I'll say something that isn't so inane tomorrow.
    ~Morgan

    • jaunty pill gold member
      May 26, 2007
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      I think I might just take you up on that line in question...Though I'm not sure how to exactly change it in the context of the piece. Maybe when you're more aware you could offer up some suggestions, etc. And you're right this actually took me a very long time to put together. I also do agree that the length is a little on the long side but I don't want to limit or constrict the poem, Sort of need that to keep the piece together. Feel free to return when your clock is blooming and more awake and I shall be sure to be here and looking for suggestions.

      All the best and thanks again,
      James

      • JustBe gold member
        May 26, 2007
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        You are welcome, I'm sure. I posted this ... thing a few hours ago. Feel free to rip it to shreds, because I don't know what to think of it. I get a lot fewer clappies lately, which means I'm writing either much better or much worse. Whatever. Love to see some real violence in the thread if you're up to it. I loathe nothing more than an un-polished poem with my name on it. http://allpoetry.com/poem/3005062

        • jaunty pill gold member
          May 26, 2007
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          Funny that you should send me to that particular link...lol. I'm actually helping nicole hanna judge that huge contest and would have eventually commented on it. I promise that when I do get around to saying things I'll be as honest as I can be. It's the best policy in my opinion.

          And about clappies...Bah...I don't really think they work in any form but they sure are fun to throw around sometimes. At least they don't hop up and down like they use to. Anyways, You'll see me soon.

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