Liquid Persuasion by ToltecWarrior at All poetry

As I walk along the edge of Eden

I see perfection

Lovingly unfolding

In a myriad of disguises.

Sometimes I see

Storms rustling

Stirring up dramatic

Displays of unrest.

Yet, it's those dark clouds

Which often deliver

drops of liquid persuasion

to the parched roots of a man's soul.

Author notes

I wrote this for my friend Presence.
Dear Presence,
May your recovery be swift and may your soul be nourished by the experience. My prayers and energy are with you...always.

namaste-

TW

Written September 19th, 2006

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BLESSINGS AND LOVING THOUGHTS # 2 : ~ PRESENCE ~ by maa. 333 points, ended October 5, 2006, 8 entries
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MargaretG
October 5, 2006
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I think you make a very good point, TW. We can get stuck on a peaceful plateau, and sometimes we need a crisis to push us to the next level. The storms of life can be very engrossing and painful, but when we make ourselves quiet, we see that there is always peace. I love the imagery, and storms as a metaphor.
This is a very lovely poem, and deep philosophical thought, well deserving of your silver trophy. Congratulations.
ToltecWarrior
October 5, 2006
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Dear Doug-

Thanks for the comment and stopping by. All is well, or should I say ALL IS....hehehe
I just finished Gary Renard's new book. It has given me some food for thought. It is so good to hear from you. I will have to catch up with you sometime to chat.

Be great-

Laura
Watuwant
October 4, 2006
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Lovely, Laura! Hope all is well in your world!

peace
doug
maa
September 22, 2006
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thank you, dear laura, for your insightful answer and for who you are ...
this morning, after letting all of this soak in, I have felt inspired to write a poem about the experience I told you about, using the additional info about the "exit points" in our lives to bring about some understanding of the event ...
a little rose is waiting for you in the author's comment-box, if ever you feel inspired to read it :

allpoetry.com/Poem/2244546

I wonder if you have met diana, "dk akalunaticserene" yet, I find that the two of you have a lot of wisdom in common ...

much love,
maa
ToltecWarrior
September 21, 2006
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Dear maa,

You asked,
"did this insight bring consolation and peace to you, or is the suffering about the loss of your sweet child just as deep and painful as for a "normal" person who might not understand that death exists only for the body ?"
This was six years ago. My awareness was less than it is now, but still higher than the average person.
At first, I was deeply sad and remorseful for the loss. I was overwhelmed by the intensity of the loss, but at the same time, I knew all was as it is supposed to be. This period of intense grief lasted over a year. I did not believe in "accidents". I kept trying to find the meaning in it. Why was she born to me? What lesson was there in this? Then, I began to see things more clearly. I was able to let it go and move forward. It helped me make peace with death.

Your story of ill health and recovery is a perfect example of choosing your exit point with free will. We always choose our experiences, wether consciously or not. You chose to stay in the game a little longer. May your stay bring you all the experiences you seek to have in order to complete this incarnation. (and possibly end the cycle) That is my goal as well.
Have a peaceful sleep with sweet dreams and insights.

namaste-

Laura
maa
September 21, 2006
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dearest laura,
I appreciate your insightful teaching very much and thank you so much for sharing your great knowledge and wisdom with me. I am truly touched by your revelation of the loss of the physical presence of your dear daughter, yet you seem to have such a clear understanding about the event that had lead to her departure, and that it was in the "plan" of the "game", and not just a coincidential accident.
did this insight bring consolation and peace to you, or is the suffering about the loss of your sweet child just as deep and painful as for a "normal" person who might not understand that death exists only for the body ? I hope this is not too intimate of a question, please let me know if it is and forgive me for it.

a few months ago, I had an experience where "I was asked" if I wanted to exit now and leave "the game", or continue. since I suffered from a quite serious illness at that time, which tied me for many months to my bed and a chair, my desire for "leaving" had been present. yet, at the exact moment, where I was proposed to leave, I felt very sad that I had not accomplished yet what I had come here for. I know that this is my last life here on earth, but I also knew at that moment that if I would decide to leave at that "exit point", I would have to come back for another round ... so I said "no, thanks, I will stay."
from that moment, without the help of any doctor or any medicine, the illness regressed and left my body almost completely.

thank you, laura, for illuminating this point for me, I guess I would like to read neale donald walshes book on this subject ...

well, this little one here will soon go to bed, it's 8.15pm already here, the birds and dogs are already asleep, so I will follow shortly.
I thank you for your patience of listening to me for so long, and send you most heartfelt blessings and a big, warm hug

maa
ToltecWarrior
September 21, 2006
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Dear Sister,

This is a facinating subject, which I have contemplated. First, let me say that there are many levels of existence. The ultimate, is, as you know, "we are ONE". Yet, under this level of non-duality there are numerous levels of illusioned duality.
This subject falls into one of those levels of duality. I'll call it the "game", since it seems to have various goals, levels of completion, and karmic rules. In the game, it appears that there are meaningless deaths and pain, but taken from the viewpoint of all major events are either creating karma or repaying karmic debt then there is some sort of sense to it. As to the suicides and contracts, well, I suppose these could be rules of the game.

My 11 year old daughter had an early exit, through a traffic "accident". Was this part of a contract fulfillment from another life in which she exited early? Or perhaps a karmic debt payed to me to push me to grow? Who knows...but I know that it is all part of the game of duality. The truth is, no one really dies, there is no one else out there. It's just smoke and mirrors.

But, still, it is facinating to try to understand.

Neale Donald Walsche wrote in his latest book that there are many exit points for any one life. He said that the individual soul gets to choose at each death point wether to keep playing or to end this incarnation. He describes it as a matter of feeling complete with the life, like they have learned or accomplished what they set out to do. If not, they can choose to keep playing, in which case time and circumstances will be rearranged to accomodate the choice. For example, my daughter's death, she had a choice to end the current life, or to come back for more time in that incarnation. If she had chose to come back, either she would have survived the accident, or the accident would not have happened. in this line of thinking, nothing happens "to" us, we choose our reality, right up to our time of death.

I don't pretend to know, but I think I believe along these lines of thought.

namaste-

Laura
maa
September 21, 2006
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my dearest sister laura,

I have just finished reading a book written by a healer and spirit traveler friend of ours who uses her out of the body-experiences in order to bring teachings from the astral-planes where souls dwell in between lives, to us. in this book, she spoke about the subject of suicide and what happens to a soul who decided to "break his contract before time" ... a truly enlightening book (in french), which has touched me so much.

there was for example a man who killed many people in the vietnam war, and was haunted by the horrible images that persecuted him when the war was over. he shot himself. he dwelled for a while in a dark space of his own fears and his own created dark-thought-energies, until it was time to review his life together with his guides. they showed him how his life could have been and what he could have learned out of his trials, would he have stayed until the end. yet, since he quit, he had to go back for the exact number of years that would have been left for him to live on the earth-plane. in order to repair his errors, he had to save many people, so it was decided that he would work as a fire-fighter. he reincarnated and followed this path. he was on duty during the september 11th event at world trade center and saved many people. this was also the exact moment when his "contract" ended and when he was told that "it has been accomplished now". he died in the fire and was released from his contract.

it also explained why so many young babies and children die so soon. according to this book, those are souls from people who suicided themselves at an old age, and they come back just for the remaining number of days, months or years, that they would have had to stay in their body, if they hadn't broken their "contract".

I wonder how you think about this subject ...
and hope I wasn't too long ...

much love,

marion
ToltecWarrior
September 21, 2006
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My dearest Sister,

Thank you for your thoughtful comment on this poem. When I first saw this contest for our friend P, I thought about all the loving and prayful words of healing I could express. Yet, time after time, as I started to write, my flow of pen kept leaning toward the underlying message of our brother's "accident".
In my experience, I have had trials and life challenges which at first have seemed "tragic", yet, with clarity of perception I have found each one to enhance my understanding and push me toward higher awareness. As there are no "accidents" in this illusionary world, I have seen that in times of stormy life situations, it is these times which can bring nourishment to our soul.

Thank you again for your most accurate interpretation of this piece.

namaste-

Laura
maa
September 21, 2006
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dearest laura,
such a precious offering for presence, a poem filled with the most delicate images and delivering timeless wisdom and soothing energies for the soul. how beautifully have you revealed to us that a dark raincloud is a bestower of blessings and not just the apparent obstacle it seems to be. likewise, one who welcomes and receives life's challenges with humility and the spirit of surrender, may certainly discover the jewel hidden within each trial ...
your words have truly inspired me and taught me an important lesson. although this is a contest and poem for our friend presence, I happily discover the many blessings I receive myself from reading all your poems.
I am very humbled and grateful for this grace.
thank you.

maa
PerVirtuous
September 19, 2006
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Lovely
Lovely. Full of grace and balance.