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Abortion: America's Holocaust


Nazis took millions of innocent lives
Men and women, husbands and wives
Murder is wrong, no matter what
No matter if you're rich or a mutt


Each day in America innocent lives are taken
Yet people continue go about their lives unshaken
When shall we wake up to see the holocaust today?
What if the unborn could talk to us, what would they say?


"Mommy, don't kill me! I want a chance to live!
A chance to run, to talk, to laugh, and to give!
I want a chance to do these things, can't you see?
I just want to experience life and to be me"


It’s time that we all make the choice
Step out into the world and be the voice
Stand up for what you believe in
And let the change in our world begin

Author notes

If you care
Stop sitting there!
Go into the world and declare
That abortion is unfair
So others might be aware...

Of America's Holocaust.

*If you are pro-abortion, be thankful your mom was pro-life.*

For those who are enjoying leaving negative comments on my poem, I would suggest rereading the site policies. Specically note these:
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Written June 22nd, 2006

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  • roflaura
    June 1, 2008

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    You should learn to say it without saying it,
    it's a great skill to have,
    sadly I take it too far, and always write things much too coded.


    • Sharcu silver member
      June 1, 2008
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      Seeing this is the first poem of mine you've read, and I wrote this 2 years ago... I think since then my poetry has really much improved.

      --Tim


  • Accidentally Poetic
    June 1, 2008

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    WOW!!! This write is amazingly powerful! You have stated your beliefs very well. Job well done! If interested I'm also posted in this contest. Best of luck to you at judging and congrats on your previous gold.
    Crystal

    • Sharcu silver member
      June 1, 2008
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      I got a lot of critism for this poem, if you couldn't see that by the 107 comments I received But yea, its what I believe Thanks, Crystal!

      --Tim


  • DAMSELx
    May 30, 2008

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    A very strong piece. Your opening stanza is sure to get the reader riled up whether in a positive or negative way (depending on their stance, of course). It is nice to see someone write something so convicting without any fears.

    Thank you for your entry,
    --DAMSELx

    • Sharcu silver member
      May 30, 2008
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      Thank you, Damselx! Your comment is appreciated. As you can see, I got a lot of comments on this poem, both good and bad

      --Tim


  • Ragan
    October 17, 2006
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    I'm glad you put it on here. I like it. I just read it to my little brother, Daniel, and he said it was pretty good and that he can't write poetry like that.


  • LittleAnn
    September 17, 2006
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    This is a really powerful poem, Tim, thanks a lot for sharing this... I agree with you that abortion is wrong because no one should be killed, not even an unborn child! This poem makes you think... I think it should be read by many people!
    Fantastic write, always keep up the great work!
    Annie


  • AerinAlanna
    August 17, 2006
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    Contrary to a lot of these commenters, I actually like and agree with this poem. Nearly one-third of my generation (those born from 1973 to 1993) has been aborted, leaving classrooms without the children that they should have had. Yes, mothers have rights--I'm not a feminist, but I agree with that--but still, the children have rights, too. What difference does a few inches of birth canal make as to whether the person has the rights given to all mankind or not?

    But about the structure of the poem--the rhyme is good, and the meter matches within each stanza, even though the meter is not synonomous throughout. It flows pretty well, and is much better than a lot of the poetry that I have read.

    Well done, Tim! A poem with a meaning as well as poetic feel.

    ~Amanda


  • bleeding-within
    August 9, 2006
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    well another aspect of it is rape! there for the woman isnot choosin to becoe pregnant there are many different reasons even including foolishness but still these aspects aint taken into account. But i have to say whateva my views on this are good writting all the same

  • Sharcu silver member
    August 9, 2006
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    I'm putting it online. People have a choice to read my poetry. They don't have to if they don't want to. Anyone could be offended by anything. I wrote a humorous poem based on a picture. Someone just replied saying how they thought the image was unfair. So pretty much anything you post online can be offensive. So are you saying not to post anything? Oh, here's that poem if you want to see it (and it's the last comment if you want to see which one I was refering to):
    allpoetry.com/poem/2167658

    If you can't take the responsibility of having a kid, don't have sex. Simple as that. Why make someone else be punished by your unresponsibility (is that a word? ). Kids can be adopted, etc. There are other choices besides having an abortion.

    I don't want to argue either. I'm merely responding to you with my own opinions and my views on this.
    --Tim

  • bleeding-within
    August 9, 2006
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    yea i know what you are saying and it is fine to have your own beliefs on the topic but its not fair to publish it. What is some1 who had an abortion read this? how would u make them feel? you need to be careful wen writting things online and think about others.

    plus you are against abortion, but as you have prob seen there are many poems on bad parents ect would it be much better for a woman to have a baby she didn't want and miss treat i. surely u understand that would b worse for the child!!

    i dont want to argue with you i was just sharing my opinion

  • Sharcu silver member
    August 9, 2006
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    Do poems always have to prove something? I was expressing my view with this poem. I am pro-life. This is my view and that's not going to change. Additionally, it's hard to cover every possibly, every aspect in a poem. So I guess if you want this poem to try and prove something, it would be to prove that children should have a choice as well. Pro-choice people only think of the mother's choice. So yes, maybe this poem seems to be to one side, but if a pro-choice person was to write a poem on this same topic, I can gaurentee you it would be to one side. Issues like abortion it is nearly impossible to write a poem that expresses emotion and tries to "prove" something without leaning towards one side or the other. You can't write an abortion poem and be indifferent to the issue.

    It's like if I write a poem about God (I'm a Christian). I'm going to be one sided because that is my belief. I couldn't be asked to write a poem that goes to both sides on a spiritual poem. Someone might be offended by what I write because it goes against their beliefs. That is the same thing with this poem. Also, I am not publishing anything. This is me simply posting it on a website. People can choose to read it or not. I would like to invite you to read some of my other writes because you may find them less contriversial than this poem on abortion.
    --Tim

  • bleeding-within
    August 9, 2006
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    the idea of the poem in original but im not sure what you are trying to prove with it? it also seems to be lacking a rhythem or any structure to it. It is also very judgemental to one side without considering the mothers view! i havent read any of your other work but from this ican tell u have a talent in writting, u just need to consider more things b4 publishing somthing to dreadful for every1 to read who may of gone through an abortion themselves.


  • whiteheart
    July 28, 2006
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    The ideas brought up are amazingly powerful and send shivers down my spine. I am stunned by the massive power harnessed in this poem.

  • Sharcu silver member
    July 9, 2006
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    The baby should still have the opportunity to live. And doctors don't know if the baby would be able to live for long. I have a link I wanted to show you, but I can't seem to find it. It's about this lady who her parents tried to have an abortion, but it failed and so she ended up having cebral palisy. The doctors said she'd never walk, but she was determined and ended up walking and all of that. Now she has effected hundreds of lives. You never know what is going to happen.
    --Tim


  • Foxydaze14
    July 9, 2006
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    I agree with this poem, and it's a very powerful one too but what if the baby would be born without arms or legs? Or if the baby wouldn't beable to have much of a life? I agree that if you get pregnant and you don't want a baby it's wrong because you can put it up for adoption or something. But what if there is something seriously wrong with the baby?


  • AmBrO
    July 2, 2006
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    wow, i thought this was a great write!!! You told it how it really is!!! I am a mother of a beautiful baby girl, and i just dont understand how woman can just throw away or KILL there life!! Its wrong in my eyes, and i think it should be against the law!!! GOD SAID THOU SHALL NOT KILL!!! Well what the hell are they doing, they are killing babies, I really enjoyed your write, and i agree that more people need to stand up and say something about whats going on, its fucked up!!! Great peice though, keep on writing!! MuchLove

    _Amber_


  • Carpe Noctem
    June 28, 2006
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    great

    Well, I thought it was really well written and on a subject I totally agree with you on. I'm a girl, but I care more about the rights of an unborn baby than my rights as a woman. And I have guy friends who are all against abortion as well, but that doesn't seem to matter even though it's half their baby. I think it's crazy that we have more respect for the lives of animals than for the lives of humans.


  • Pensively Ignorant
    June 27, 2006
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    *grins dimmly* INTERESTING. Very, very interesting. I am amazed at how many people stated their OPINION instead of what they thought of the poem. If you feel inclined, you can ask my opinion, but if I were you, and had these many comments of opinions, I wouldn't want to know without giving permission to it first. Great poem, really touches that little topic that just makes you feel, feel a conflict of things and emotions. I read somewhere once that a well written piece is one that can get you to respond to it. Doesn't matter in what way you responded, whether that be in amazement or disgust, just a response. It's true if you think about it, because you wouldn;t spend time caring about something if it wasn't worth it. Anyway, obviously this poem was more then good, seeing as how many people commented with their "responses." Great job!

    *God Bless*

    Sarah


  • Beating Heart Baby
    June 27, 2006
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    great

    its not as easy as that
    you need to see it from both sides
    and i totally appreaciate thats your opinion
    great read, very strong

  • angel305
    June 27, 2006
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    BRAVO!!!!

    wow this poem is wonderful!! i couldnt agree with u more.As i was reading this poem i realized that abortion really is like a holocaust to babies.... that is a really good way to look at it.


  • FireyAura
    June 26, 2006
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    OMG Timothy! This is awesome! Like I know that I said this about everyother poem of yours and such but WOW! I cannot agree with you more. The technique on this was great and I'm glad that you chose to rhyme, but the best part was definately the message you gave here. I honestly can understand why some people are having problems with this (not at all okaying that but I can see why.) I have often heard that abortion is two more eyes that will never see, one more mouth that will never speak and two legs that will never run. I am pro-life and I am glad for your courage and guts to post this. I know that many poeple will harass you for it, but we as Christians need to take a stand for what is right. Thank you so much for expressing your belief, and it is really good to know that I am not the only one that thinks that way
    Love Ya!
    ~*Chelsea*~


  • rufina caraid gold member
    June 26, 2006
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    Abortions happen around the world not just in America and I understand that you are concentrating on your own country here. However, not all abortions are made due to unwanted pregnancies, You cannot possibly be aware of all of the reasons why this happens or even how it can happen and it's evident you don't know. Perhaps some of the pro-life energies might also be channelled into protected sex so that these babies do not become a statistic.

    I have to add that I do not agree with abortions personally but no two cases would be the same. Each woman/girl has to be treated as an individual and each of us must realise that she has to make the decision, she has to live with that decision so lets not judge too harshly until all the facts are before you. I fail to see the connection made between the Holocaust and abortion, to me there is no comparison.

    I respect your right of opinion and maybe in time to come you may learn a little empathy and come to realise that in so many abortion cases the Mother’s grief never goes away.

    rufina caraid


  • Abscessed
    June 25, 2006
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    this is phenomenal Sharkie... I havent read any of your work posted on the site yet and I must say that I am loving what I read here. I would agree with you whole heartedly on the fact that abortion is wrong...very very wrong - we as human beings do not have the right to play God. But sometimes there also comes a point when however painful it maybe, abortion is the only choice. For girls (especially in India) sex is severely frowned upon, and if they choose to carry the baby they can never keep for 9 months and give it up for adoption later on, the fact that they were unwed and pregnant will be their label all their life. So especially in these cases - when religion and society dominate your very existance, it is very difficult for the ordinary 16-20 year old to face up and rebel (I'm saying 16-20 because after that - women usually get married if they have unplanned pregnancies). You get my drift?

    Anyhow...I loved your poem...and I love the fact that America has so many choices...to abort or not to abort. In India these things are still very hush hush!

    Will read more of you soon

    Rohina


  • runandhide
    June 25, 2006
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    A powerfull poem

    Wow, this is so true. A very powerfull poem.
    I dont think you should leave...if someone insulted you becaus of ur faith, you would take it as a compliment wouldnt you? As your obviously making an impact on them.
    Peopl insulting you coz of this poem have been made uncomfortable by what you have said, its hit hard...therefore you have acheived ur purpose havent you? You cant expect to change someone's opinion on a topic that evokes such strong feelings from people who really dont get it as much as this one does. -rah-

  • shattered-silence
    June 24, 2006
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    it is wonderful

    in our constitution it say we have the right to LIFE liberty and the presute of happiness. so when you abort(kill) a baby you deny it the right to live and liberty and happiness. when a woman doesn't want a child why can't she put it up for adoption? so many people want children and can't have them yet millions of babies die every year because their mothers doesn't want them. it';s sick and wrong that someone that killed someone or many people doesn't die but an innocent child that never drew a single breath or opened its eyes can die because someone doesn't want it. it's wrong that the same person that wanted to have sex and gets pregnant can just decide they don't want the responsiblity that come with what they do. it's wrong that children die because their mother's don't want them, just like it was wrong for hilter to kill the jews because he didn't want them on earth. it's wrong to kill someone and it's even worse to kill an infant that never did anything wrong. they are innocent in every way shape and form. it's wrong to kill them for their perants mistakes. if people that murder people get sent to jail or killed why don't the doctors and women that kill babies get put away? it's stupid and wrong. they have no right to kill them.

    now that i got that out i liked the poem it was very well writen.
    Edited on Jun 24, 2:03 p.m. because ''.


  • Of the FreakVariety
    June 24, 2006
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    I must say this is really quite good. When you said you were getting negative feedback I was leaning towards the side that people disliked it for the actual context, but it appears that they simply dislike it because of beliefs, for the most part. The flow was really good, along with the rhyme scheme, and you really could tell that you care a lot about this subject. You have to be one of the only guys I've ever seen say anything negative abortions, sadly, but that, of course, is just a generalized statement, and cannot be taken seriously. Either way, I think it would be simpler to the people who think deeply negative about this poem if they would just realize that it's practically humanly impossible to address every single issue of the world and your standing point on it in one, lonely poem, and that the point of a person's poetry is to express themselves and their thoughts and beliefs, not what the people think they should think or believe. Anyway, a nice job done on this poem, I enjoyed reading it.


  • Magic Bullet
    June 24, 2006
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    Hey, come back you! You can't spout nonsense then scurry away in a pathetic attempt to claim moral high ground, of course I would reply. What is your problem with me replying? Do you not like people disagreeing with you? Now there's a nazi parallel...

    The holocaust isn't just a numbers came, sergeant feotus. More people have died from the flu in the history of the universe than have been killed in abortions, it doesn't make it a constructive connection. It's what the holocaust was about, and it is no way comparable to someone having an abortion.

    Think about it.

    Just for a second...

    Any luck yet?


  • xTroubled-Teenx
    June 24, 2006
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    very well done

    hey i see ur gettin some negative feedback, and yet i really like this poem. i love the rhyming technique u do. i'm also pro-life all the way. ur other comment with the poem, that was good too. and yeah, ur right, we should be proud that our mothers were pro-life when they had us, i thinks that y we have mothers day lol but this is a good poem. i was wondering something about it, so just message me on here, cuz i'm not gunna ask in a comment box. so, i hope u keep up the great work, and abortion awareness gets to the doctors to try and stop them. good write, plz keep it up


  • ecclesiastes
    June 24, 2006
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    Tim,
    I can see without looking too hard why you you stress level is a *tad* higher than normal. I am hesitant to say what I think becuase I don't want to make you feel like I am over analyzing it or anything. But I will say that if people could get past content they would see a very simple poem, which quite frankly is a good thing if something else about it is complicated, 4 line stanza, aabb rhyme schyme, basic really. Just with a potent content. The controversy that abortion and other simiar topics stir up can be blown way out of proportion in some cases, which to a point may be the case here. Yes this is an important isure that can require a lot of thought that a lot of people feel very pationant about, but insted of just leaving a meassage for the whole world to see, I SUDJEST TO EVERYONE that you have posibley a time to discuss it...just a thought. And not just the world against you, Tim, any Prolife against a Prochoice. I do support life, in any situation, I have not thought of one that could sway me. You don't have to respond to anyone on here you know. I will pray for you that you will find rest. God bless you. *~*

    PS. The dried blood color backgroud is slightly on the disturbing side, but very efective...sorry...had to add that...*~*
    Edited on Jun 24, 1:12 because ''.


  • Alien She
    June 24, 2006
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    awesome poem.

  • Sharcu silver member
    June 24, 2006
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    Many of the arguments that have been presented here have been directed towards me and not what's being discussed. I did not write this to waste part of my life away by fighting with people. I wrote it as an entry for this contest. But then it was promoted by a friend and then people had to step in. It seems I haven't gotten one good critique on this poem. People either say: This is complete crap. I hate it. Or ... This is really great! Keep it up! Neither of which are helpful.

    Some people need to learn to keep their opinions to themselves unless they are asked to share them.
    --Tim


  • Whispered Devotions
    June 23, 2006
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    I adore this poem. I am sorry that so many people have left negative comments.. It is amazing how many people will harass you for simply believing in saving an innocent baby's life.. So it is ok to believe in murdering helpless little humans but it is barbaric to believe in protecting and voicing emotion for a child. Hmmm.. I can only imagine.... anyway I will not say anymore, all I will say is that this poem touched me in a beautiful way. Wonderful and heartfelt job my friend.


    Amy

  • NbutnoJ
    June 23, 2006
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    people must have real nerve to leave bad comments on a poem like this-It's absolutely great...i can tell u have a passion to changew the world and i totally admire ur determination!!I loved ur poem cuz it has such emotion and u can feel it speaking to ur heart-u rock!!~Keep up the awesome work!!(im applauding this 4sure!!)~Natalie

  • Sharcu silver member
    June 23, 2006
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    Crissy, about the last thing you said... there is a way to attack to the argument and there is a way to attack the person who is making the argument. Almost every single pro-choice person here who has replied to my poem has attacked me directly and my poetry. There is also a way to voice your opinion with being respectful of others. Almost everyone who has replied here has been the most disrepectful. Those are things I don't appreciate. AllPoetry isn't suppose to be about that. I'm sorry I wrote this poem in the first place. I'm considering leaving AllPoetry because of it.
    --Tim


  • Lone Gunman
    June 23, 2006
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    I don’t think you can compare the massacre of Jews with the abortion of children. I don’t see the connection. It's not a competition to see who can rack up the highest body count. The holocaust was carried out with the aim of exterminating all Jews with malice in mind. Abortions are rarely carried out because people don’t like children. There are usually complex factors which you have ignored in your poem. Which I believe is one of the constructive criticisms which I left; that you have shown only one side of the argument.

    In response to your second point, just because dead fetuses don’t look appealing doesn’t mean it’s a case of murder. When a baby miscarries, is that a case of murder? The human reproductive system is brutally inefficient so it happens a fair bit. Who do we condemn when that happens?

    I’m not saying abortion is right or wrong, I’m saying it isn’t your place to tell people what they can or cannot do with their bodies. You don’t address rape or incest victims in your poem. I note that you’re male so presumably you’re an expert on carrying children?

    None of what I said was ‘tearing your poetry apart’. I am merely pointing out the flaws which exist within it. You can’t put something up for public consumption and then complain when people give honest opinions.

    The Iraq comment was an attempt to draw your attention to the plight and suffering of many people who are already in this world – where is your compassion for them?

    You made a number of references in your message to my not having written any poetry. I find this confusing because investigating my author page for a few seconds would yield… poetry. I invite you to read my some, comment, I wont be offended if you don’t like it.

    Regardless, I do not believe I have broken any site policies. Tell me, which have I breached?


  • Neon Lights
    June 23, 2006
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    Hmm...I never would have looked at this issue in this way. I am pro-life totally but I would have never compared abortion to the Holocaust until I read this, and you are right. What is the difference between the two? Both are about killing innocent people, and both are (and were) wrong. I think you have done an exceptional job voicing your opinion on this, and doing it in an unoffensive way to those who are pro-choice. I appluad your poem and your opinion on abortion! Wicked job!
    Much love,
    ~Fiona~


  • Mamabekaboo
    June 23, 2006
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    OK I usually don't make comments on pieces that are controversial but this one is important to my heart.
    I AM PRO-LIFE ALL THE WAY
    I believe that every life is created from conception and God allows it to happen. Yes life comes from bad situations as well but God is in control. I believe Abortion is an easy way out for most people. I know many people who only do it because they don't want to lose their precious body figure or they don't feel that they can handle a baby at that time... Then frankly you shouldn't have been messing around in the first place.
    I also understand that there are many cases where the women are abused, raped, medically unable to carry a child... These situations to me do not warrant a reason for killing a child... I am able to say this partially because I was raped. I had to make a decision early on whether or not I would keep the child if I was to become pregnant. I would have kept the child no matter what. God does not send you a blessing for nothing. There is always adoption. On that note... Now I can not conceive... some people believe it is because of the rape. I HAVE had to adopt the children I have now. I have also known women who have had medical issues or were told the child would have medical issues... some of the children came out normal and others died... But still I believe that God knows what we can handle and He would not give us more than that. I am sure I will hear it for this comment but killing to me is killing....
    I agree with Sharcu's statement above... Be thankful your mother was Pro-life when she had you!
    Because He Lives,
    Beka


  • passionvine
    June 23, 2006
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    Well, Tim you're ducking the issue, but I expected that.

    You're not a daisy at all.

    You are very prudent though to not try and respond.

    Thanks for getting back to me. Since you pretty much sustain the issue that I raised, I consider the matter closed and will trouble you no further.

    Peace.

  • Sharcu silver member
    June 23, 2006
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    First off, you may have noticed that I haven't responded to everyone. Your response could have easily been sent in a message.

    I did not say that I would turn them over to the moderators for challenging my "illogical and narrow thinking". Here is what I said:
    If you wish to continue to tear apart my poetry, I will simply contact a moderator as I see you are breaking several of the site policies.

    There is a way to be respectful (which your comment was more respectful then a lot of the stuff I got) and there's a way to be disrespectful. Telling me that I write crappy poetry is quite disrespectful. It shows that the poet has no talent what-so-ever. Additionally, if you think my poetry is crap, then tell me why. Tell me how to improve it. I don't mind constructive critism. But this is my view on it. Coming in here and attacking me and my poetry gets you no where.

    I do not plan on replying to everyone. I've already wasted two hours to reply. I have better things to do with my time. Plus I seem to be getting the same arguments from everyone so there is no point in addressing the same issue over and over again.
    --Tim

  • passionvine
    June 23, 2006
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    Dear Tim:

    I note you didn’t take to task the two people who made direct comments to me for getting off topic. Neither of Noble1’s comments to me dealt with abortion or the poem. Don’t you know that’s the kind of hypocrisy that makes Baby Jesus cry?

    If someone makes a direct comment to me, I will respond in the forum where that comment took place. That is not against site policy.

    I also note that in pretty standard fashion for your ilk that later you start to threaten to turn someone over to the moderators if they dare to have the temerity to challenge your illogical and narrow thinking. Taking people on in a controversial topic and then cowering behind the skirts of moderation is pretty cowardly.

    For the record I found your use of the holocaust to be abhorrent, but in dealing with the poem I lauded your fervor and dealt with issues that could be used to improve the poem as well as praise one sentence I found particularly well written.

    However, the day I start taking lessons in discourse and manners from hypocritical anti-Semites will be the day before Christ Comes Again. So I suggest you dispense your self-righteous dictums to remain on topic equally among all participants or else expect that people will insist upon the right to respond. You’ll be a daisy if you do.

    I would like to deal solely with the poem and its subject matter, but it is unreasonable to expect someone to just sit back and let others make direct comments unanswered.

    Peace.


  • cvillelisa
    June 23, 2006
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    Nazis took millions of innocent lives
    Men and women, husbands and wives
    Murder is wrong, no matter what
    No matter if you're rich or a mutt


    mmmmmmm.

  • Sharcu silver member
    June 23, 2006
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    The word "Holocaust" first appeared in the 14th century. Incase you didn't know, that was before the Holocaust in Germany happened. It has two definitions:
    n 1: an act of great destruction and loss of life 2: the Nazi program of exterminating Jews under Hitle

    You are thinking of 2. But I think that it also applies to America's Holocaust. Abortion is "an act of great destruction and loss of life."

    Definitions found on Dictionary.com
    --Tim

  • cvillelisa
    June 23, 2006
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    I find using the Holocaust to promote ANY type mindset or opinion other than what it was, appalling. You have every right to your opinion -- but in some way -- this poem down right uses those who sufferred and died in the Holocaust in a sleazy way. They certainly aren't here to defend your comparison but I wonder if their survivors would appreciate it.

    You are against abortion. Period. You have every right to believe that. You need not use the victims of that horror to defend your stand. Find your own way -- that is Poetry is about.

  • Sharcu silver member
    June 23, 2006
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    Then maybe you should read the book "Idiots Guide to Reading Poetry" If you are going to read poetry on a poetry site, you need to learn how to read poetry.
    --Tim

  • Sharcu silver member
    June 23, 2006
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    Free speach isn't apart of this site. If you think it is, read the policies. I did not write this to get attention. If I wanted to, I would have promoted it after I first wrote it. Someone else promoted this for me. I wrote this to enter the contest. I didn't realize this would be promoted nor that I would get such negative feedback.
    --Tim


  • FlawedDestiny
    June 23, 2006
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    Hey, I didn't say you were trying to get attention by PROMOTION. I said you were trying to get attention simply by writing it. Check out what I said. I promote from time to time. IF I think I wrote something that someone can relate to. I never said you were trying to get attention because you promoted. I knew you didn't promote it when I read it. I will say damn well whatever I want. Just like I would hope you write damn well whatever you choose. The beauty of all this {your poem and all these comments going back and forth} is that you CAN write what you want and people WILL comment however they want. Keep writing whatever you want. Believe it or not, I've written a few that caused a reaction such as what you are getting. And I stand by what I said, it's easy for a MALE to be anti-abortion. They don't have to worry about it. Not saying that you'd go out and get a girl pregant and walk away...not that at all, just plenty do.

  • Sharcu silver member
    June 23, 2006
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    I do not wish to debate you either, Andi, because it seems like I'm already debating half of this site already. Definately not something I needed to do with my entire afternoon. So I appreciate the respectfulness of your comment.

    yes, abortion can't relate to the Holocaust in every way. Yes, it isn't just happening over in Germany. There isn't some guy named Hitler running the program. Abortionists aren't looking to perfect the world by making everyone blonde haired, blue eyed. Yes, it doesn't relate in every sense. But the same could be said about a lot of analogies, comparisons, metaphors, etc.

    Also, I would suggest you seeing what I said in response to others about the fetus speaking. I am perfectly aware that they can't talk. However, poetry is metaphorical to express something. In this case this is a metaphor. I guess not many people on this site actually know how to write poetry. Thanks again for your comment
    --Tim

  • Sharcu silver member
    June 23, 2006
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    I didn't write this poem out of attention. I didn't promote this poem myself. I never seak attention from my poetry. How dare you say that when you don't even know me. You are making false accusations because I'm a guy and because you clicked on this from a promotion. I don't care who reads this, who agrees with me, and who hates this. I've written so many poems on here that it doesn't affect me by the number views, applauds, or comments I get. I would recommend you seeing my response to others as much of your questions have been answered.
    --Tim

  • Sharcu silver member
    June 23, 2006
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    The Lone Gunman:
    First off, please see my response to Magic Bullet on refering to abortion to the Holocaust. More babies have been killed in through abortion then Jews in the Holocaust. Yet abortion is okay and the Holocaust was horrible.

    Have you ever looked at pictures of an abortion? If not, go to google and find some. If you still think that abortion isn't murder, you need to go see a docter. I see a babies head, arms, legs... I'm not sure what else you need to make that baby a person. Yet killing that fetus isn't wrong. If I was to come up and kill you and then say that I had the choice to and that it isn't wrong... Would that be okay? I don't think so.

    See again what I said to Magic Bullet in concerning what the baby would say. It seems like you pro-choicers all have the same sort of comments, eh? No, I don't know what it would say. I know what I would say if my mom had thought about aborting me. Also, have you ever written a poem? I will assume so since you are on a poetry site. But the way you are acting it makes me think otherwise. Poetry isn't always about personal experience. Shall I find some of your poetry that I'm sure isn't about something you've experienced and tell you that you shouldn't say that and you have "overly biased speculation" because you have never been there. That is what poetry is. Maybe you should try to learn to write some.

    If you want a contest for kids in Iraq, why don't you start one? You are perfectly able to so I don't see why you don't.

    If you wish to continue to tear apart my poetry, I will simply contact a moderator as I see you are breaking several of the site policies. Have a nice day.
    --Tim

  • Sharcu silver member
    June 23, 2006
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    MKN: You are pro-choice. I respect your decision along with everyone else's, although it is aparent a lot of people don't respect me or this poem. However, why is it that the fetus isn't given a choice? Why is the mother the only one anyone cares about? Would abortion still be okay if rape never existed? Thanks for reading and your respectful comment
    --Tim


  • Mrs. Mautino
    June 23, 2006
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    i am going to be honest. i am neither pro-abortion nor anti-abortion. i think it the decision of the mother. it is just my opinion, all i ask is that you respect mine and i'll respect yours. over all of it, it is a very god and powerful poem and it did send the message clearly. keep writing out your opinions, believe me, people will listen to you. - MKN

  • Sharcu silver member
    June 23, 2006
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    Passionvine: If you have a problem with a member of the site's grammar, take it up with them in a personal message. It doesn't relate to this poem or an abortion argument. Thank you.
    --Tim

  • Sharcu silver member
    June 23, 2006
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    To Magic Bullet:
    I compare it to the holocaust because over 45 million, innocent fetuses have been aborted. Now I ask you, how many innocent people were killed in the Holocaust? Well, here's a link on wikipedia:
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust#Death_toll

    Less people were killed in the Holocaust then have been killed in abortion. In World War two all together, about 62 million died on both sides. Abortion is almost getting up to that many. Yet people consider abortion something that is perfectly normal and alright to do and yet the Holocaust was a tragic event.

    Additionally, yes, I realize that fetuses can't think. I am not stupid. Please don't treat me like I am. However, this is a poem. Yes, it is suppose to strike the emotions. You try to act all high and mighty like you know a lot, but then you forget that poems have two main purposes: To project an emotion, or to express something metaphorically. Thus, what I did with the fetus thinking was an emotional, metaphor. If my mom was thinking about having an adoption with me, then that is what I would have told her.

    Thank you, and have a nice day. If you feel the need to respond, please don't. I don't have the time nor the patience.
    --Tim


  • cvillelisa
    June 23, 2006
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    Ah. Got it. Thanks for the parental advice. How many kids do you have?

  • passionvine
    June 23, 2006
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    Dear Noble One:

    You might want to invest in a grammar and style book.

    “I'm not you and I know, no apology would be necessary!”

    The comma is misplaced. It’s really unnecessary, but if you wish to litter your prose with unnecessary commas it more correctly would go before the “and.”

    The homonym “no” “know” sets up an awkward diction.

    Look up the subjunctive mood. “If I were you” is a subjunctive phrase and indicates a condition contrary to fact. Responding with “I’m not you” is the sort of redundancy that only re-dunces might employ.

    Exclamation points are to be used sparingly. To make the announcement that you are not I probably does not require the same tone as one might use to announce the Second Coming of Christ -- to do so inflates the blatantly obvious and diminishes the truly extraordinary.

    Four solecisms in a sentence of eleven words may not be a world record, but it is a very impressive attempt.

    Peace.


  • FlawedDestiny
    June 23, 2006
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    Yes, it is that's why you need PARENTS to step in and watch over their childern.

  • FlawedDestiny
    June 23, 2006
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    Have you been raped??? NO, I doubt you have. Lucky you. As for me and even some of my family member I dare to make a stand against your comment Arrianna. How dare you say someone would be selfish because they aborted a baby that was a product of rape??? I think it's disgusting that you said that. I pray you never get raped, but for those of us who had been if I had gotten pregnant from it I may have had an abortion. And I stand beside ANY woman who does the same. A baby conceived out of anger, hate and pain who is left to grow is going to constantly remind that woman of her pain. But why shouldn't she...next you'll tell us all it was her fault. Rape is not something to joke about nor is it to be taken lightly. Rape leaves you battered and bruised FOREVER. You don't forget that. It not selfish to abort a baby because of that. What if it was you? What would you do...know what you can't answer that because it wasn't you. It was ME {although there was no baby concieved} and MILLIONS of women like ME. Don't speak of selfishness and rape if you haven't been there. You can't begin to understand the pain or fear...I hope to God you never can. I know I went off on a tanget here but that comment made me so mad. Selfish rape victims...HA!


  • cvillelisa
    June 23, 2006
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    Yes but is awfully difficult to get those teenagers having sex to turn themselves in....


  • FlawedDestiny
    June 23, 2006
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    In most states teenage sex is illegal. It's called statutory rape.


  • Magic Bullet
    June 23, 2006
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    It takes two to make babies? No wonder I've been having trouble concieving.


  • noble1
    June 23, 2006
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    I'm not you and I know, no apology would be necessary!


  • Desiree Darkk
    June 23, 2006
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    No one is pro abortion. It's *pro choice,* something the pro lifers, or most of them, have never understood. Pro choice is a woman's right to choose whether she wants to carry a child to term or not.

    The number of abortions in this country is staggering and makes me sick. I would choose life over an abortion but I want to be free to make that decision. I don't want a bunch of middle aged stuffed shirts in Washington DC telling me what I can and cannot do with my body.

    Abortion will never go away. If they throw out Roe v Wade the only ones who will suffer are the poor. The Bushes and Chaney's will fly to Denmark over the weekend, have their safe, clean abortions and be back to work on Monday morning. The poor and middle class will be back to bathtub abortions or at the mercy of some quack.

    Oh well. I think you could get your point across better if you hadn't center justified and rhymed.

    Desiree

    I just read where you are a 17 year old boy so the centering/rhyming is forgiven. I commend you for taking a stance. Most young people never give this issue a thought.
    Edited on Jun 23, 12:40 because 'added something'.

  • Mamabekaboo
    June 23, 2006
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    OK I usually don't make comments on pieces that are controversial but this one is important to my heart.
    I AM PRO-LIFE ALL THE WAY
    I believe that every life is created from conception and God allows it to happen. Yes life comes from bad situations as well but God is in control. I believe Abortion is an easy way out for most people. I know many people who only do it because they don't want to lose their precious body figure or they don't feel that they can handle a baby at that time... Then frankly you shouldn't have been messing around in the first place.
    I also understand that there are many cases where the women are abused, raped, medically unable to carry a child... These situations to me do not warrant a reason for killing a child... I am able to say this partially because I was raped. I had to make a decision early on whether or not I would keep the child if I was to become pregnant. I would have kept the child no matter what. God does not send you a blessing for nothing. There is always adoption. On that note... Now I can not conceive... some people believe it is because of the rape. I HAVE had to adopt the children I have now. I have also known women who have had medical issues or were told the child would have medical issues... some of the children came out normal and others died... But still I believe that God knows what we can handle and He would not give us more than that. I am sure I will hear it for this comment but killing to me is killing....
    I agree with Sharcu's statement above... Be thankful your mother was Pro-life when she had you!
    Because He Lives,
    Beka

  • passionvine
    June 23, 2006
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    Do you dislike him that much?

    I'd apologize if I were you.

    Moreover, you avoid the issue. Poems that are promoted are asking for comments. Yes?

    Peace.


  • M0ofi3
    June 23, 2006
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    All life comes from the Agent of Life-Jesus Christ, even it is from an unwanted, or unplanned pregnancy. We Christians know that the sins of the father do not fall upon the offspring, so to use abortion in any case is not an option, even if the pregnancy came from a rape.

    Abortion is simply a sacrifice upon the alter of the god of Convenience and Selfish Ambition, just as many in ancient times sacrificed children to the god of Molech. This heinous act is just a way for us to continue in self-indulgence, and avoid the consequence it can bring. It is more than our contemporary Holocaust; it is the god we have chosen over the True One who made us and made a way for us to be with Him.

    And just as this act is a slap in the face of the one true God, it is a slap in the face of how man was supposed to be; robbing himself of the dignity the Lord had intended for the pinnacle of His creation.

    I commend you, Sharcu, for your bold obedience.


  • noble1
    June 23, 2006
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    I promoted this poem for Sharcu, he did not know! So he was not begging for comments.


  • Uhs Feth Malorn
    June 23, 2006
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    My mother has many of the same opinions as me. She too is pro-choice, but they planned for two children, that is that. I think comparing abortion to the Holocaust is a wee bit extreme, and I think killing a three year old is different to killing a foetus, as a foetus does not feel pain.

  • passionvine
    June 23, 2006
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    There are things I like about the poem. There are things I don't like about the poem. Since the poet chose to feature the poem, one might reasonably conclude that the poet was begging for comments.

    What makes you the arbiter of what people can and can not do?

    I adore watching the transparent hypocrisy when the KKKristians start pouring in.

    Peace.

  • Veronica Cross
    June 23, 2006
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    Well written anti-abortion piece!!!!

    This is indeed a very strong write on an intense and painful subject matter. I am now anti-abortion, but do not wish to see our freedom of choice taken away. To do this would be a horrible mistake, as there are certain circumstances where a girl/woman needs that right to make the choice for herself. For a woman to be forced into the back allies for this would be a nightmare! We cannot allow government to rule our bodies. Government has enough control over us as it is.

    The reason I am anti-abortion is because I made the fatal mistake of having one many years ago. My Fiance was killed in an auto accident and I already had two children I was raising and financially supporting independently. I acted out of fear. Fear because of the financial strain I was already under. I had to think of continuing to provide for the two children I already had; I had no choice but to continue to work to provide for them. I had to make the choice of putting them first, for they were already here. Sometimes it's easier said than done to carry a pregnancy to term so that you can choose adoption. Back in the 70's and 80's, it was moreso the case for social reasons. My situation led to deep regret, as my financial picture changed drastically. If I'd known what the future had in store for my career, I wouldn't have made 'the choice'. It is a regret I will live with always. I now feel I'd been left with a 'gift' and I gave it back. This child was the creation of someone I deeply loved and love to this day.

    I have to agree with A Likely Story on murder, however. It is not always wrong, if you want to call defending yourself, murder. Maternal instinct is the strongest instinct known to man within the mammal species. It would not be the least bit unusual for a Mother to kill to protect her child, or even herself so that she can continue to care for her young. If anyone ever threatened the life of my children or grandchildren, I wouldn't think twice of taking care of the problem. Sometimes there IS no choice!

    I agree that abortion is all too prevalent in our society and is being used as a form of birth control. This is wrong. It's time for everyone to take responsibility over their own bodies and utilize our freedom to use birth control effectively. That's what it's there for. There is no excuse anymore, as there are too many options to prevent pregnancy in the first place.

    This is a well written, emotional piece. Your statement is heard loud and clear.

    Many blessings and s

    ~ Becky ~ aka Veronica Cross

  • noble1
    June 23, 2006
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    Tim, you and I know that it takes accepting Christ's forgiveness of our sins to be able to forgive others. I have had the particular discussion with my husband regarding if I were to be raped and become pregnant, what would we do...I can honestly say that I would carry the child to term and love it completely. It is not my choice or desire to have another baby at this time in my life, however, if God chose to give me a child through these means (since HE decides when to give life), then so be it!! Those who abide in the love of Christ are able to extend that love to others. Those who do not, just plainly do not understand. Thanks much for sharing this and I do not regret promoting it...God bless you! Noble1


  • Arrianna MacEwan
    June 23, 2006
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    I love this poem regardless of the flaws others seem to see. I am an 18 year old christian girl who can honestly say in reply to the other comments that were made here about a womans choice that if you make the choice to fornicate, than the consequences should be your responsibility. As for rape, i can honestly say it is a selfish and vain thing to kill an innocent child for somthing you don't have the courage to face. If i was raped i would give birth to the child because i am the one who was hurt and taking out my anger upon an innocent and defesless human being is the most dispicble thing i have ever in my life been forced to witness in others.
    Not only is it murder, it is premeditated murder. and answer me this you defenders of some women's choice to kill instead of accept responsibility. If a fetus is not a baby, why was scott petterson charged with the death of two people instead of only one?
    I recieved and email once with the story of a docter who had to opperate upon a fetus in the womb who was only one month along in the pregnancy. the docter had to remove the womb and cut it open to opperate. at one month old the baby had fully developed fingers that reached thru the cut and tightly grasped the finger of the doctor working to save him.
    tell me now you who call an unborn human being a choice, how can a human bieng with a heart, a brain, functionally fingers and organs, who has a future, be a choice?
    tell me how a woman can kill, just because she does not want her lifestyle altered. it makes me sick!!!
    I applaud the author a thousand times, and stand in my belief that you who say that all humans are equal regardless of race are hipocryts, for an unborn child is human as well.
    ~Abigail Slick


  • FullyAlive
    June 23, 2006
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    i am pro-choice. not pro abortion. i agree with FlawedDestiny. the holocaust and abortion have nothing to do with eachother. the holocaust was a genecide of people. not unborn babies. and if you have an abortion in the first trimester, it doesnt hurt the babie concidering it wasnt fully developed at all. and i dont know about you but i certiantly dont remember my womb days. i dont remember if i got hurt at all. and i certiantly wouldnt feel anything if i was aborted. remember, the babies brain isnt fully developed, even when it is born so it cant tell you that it wants to run around and all that.
    i really dont understand your relation of abortion and the holocaust. abortion isnt as painful as some think. people may think it is so wrong because it causes pain and whatnot, the baby cant feel it. so it didnt suffer.
    the holocaust didnt just hurt the Jews and Gypsies and those persecuted, but the allied forces, the Americans who helped them. (i know this because my gradnfather was a soldier on the beaches of Normandy) abortion hurts no one but the people like you who make it seem so terrible.
    you need to check your facts, and learn to not take this abortion stuff so damn seriously. if you were a woman and got pregnant, found out that the baby was so deformed or disabled and it would be in both of your best interests for the baby to not continue growing, you would get an abortion. or if you were raped.
    i would go further in this topic but it doesnt deserve the time.

    shame on you for comparing abortion of today to the holocaust. you need to be taught a lesson about the holocaust and then tell me that soemthing so painless is a holocaust.
    -x-

  • cvillelisa
    June 23, 2006
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    And lose out on an extra 4 points? It was featured twice obviously the author and friends are looking for public recognition. Why can't I leave a comment even if I think it is crap? Odd thought to me, to remain silent in the face of such a provacative piece.

    I'm with Passionvine, I don't like it but would fight for his freedom to post it.


  • Lady Altheia
    June 23, 2006
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    I give the poet effort for this piece because they went out on a line to write it. If you haven't gone through something like this, how can you piossibly understand what the person is going through? I have news, it takes two to make a baby so the responsibility falls on both people involved not just the wman or the man. Those to you who are bashing the poem because it is crap, there is a simple solution to that, If you don't like the poem, don't leave a comment.


  • Man of Harlech silver member
    June 23, 2006
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    I strongly believe in a woman's right to choose. This situation is far more complicated. This ignores the terrible poverty in central and south America where countless 12 and 13 year old mothers die because of the Church's position on abortion. You have approached this in a doctrinaire and highly selective way and have turned it into a diatribe. Consider the killing that our soldiers and their enemies do. Consider the people executed through our prison system. We must care about this waste of life as well. The Holocaust was a lethal system that was codifide by the Nazis to exterminate the Jews. No adoptions were available to those who failed the selective process. The term has a specific meaning that specifies racial hate, systematically demonstrated at Germany's death camps in the 1930s and 1940s. As of late, we have widened its meaning to describe atrocities in Rowanda and other places. As we continue to widen its meaning we run the danger of forgetting the 6,000,000 Jews who died because they were Jewish. The Church and its churches allowed this to happen-America and England allowed this to happen. By saying "sorry 'bout that, but that was then and this is now, we are putting a spin on history to make a dogmatic point.

  • passionvine
    June 23, 2006
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    Average for its genre somewhere between god a

    To equate the Holocaust with the debate on abortion is an Anti-Semitic slur.

    It is an obscenity. It is a blasphemy.

    As for the poem.

    “innocent lives” is a redundancy and a persuasive definition fallacy –as opposed to un-innocent lives. You might consider just saying lives.

    “No matter if you're rich or a mutt”

    Sets up a false division fallacy – are you saying that the poor and dispossessed are dogs – are you saying that the rich are pedigreed Alsatians. There are mixed metaphors and then there are analogies tossed in a blender and set to puree.

    You might consider the prosaic but at least consistent rich and poor – or you might go with a pure bred dog of some sort and mutt.

    “Each day in America innocent lives are taken”

    Why would you want to repeat a redundancy?

    I don’t deny your passion, but passion without craft isn’t going to reach a reader. Well passion isn’t exactly the right word, commitment seems too rational, uh fervor. I don’t deny your fervor, but even when preaching to the choir fervor ought to give way to trying to reach the audience with fresh new language and concrete imagery. Try abandoning the rhyme scheme; I think your attempt to maintain it is forcing you into poor word choices. I like that word choice. The best line in the poem uses it. Excellent on

    "It’s time that we all make the choice"

    Just for the record, the open minded and tolerant are at a disadvantage with the AP set up of “snitch and tattle” tickets. I believe this poem is an Anti-Semitic slur, but I would never dream of ticketing it. On the other hand the close minded roving gangs of those with empty lives to fill have a lovely time of it going about trying to rid the world of what abrades their overwrought sensibilities. I find your Anti-Semitic slur offensive, but I would always argue for your right to spew it.

    Peace
    Edited on Jun 23, 11:09 because ''.

  • cvillelisa
    June 23, 2006
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    I think we should make teenage sex illegal since so many of those killers are teenagers. And if the teenagers have sex and the girl gets pregnant -- we should surgically sew a mewling 10 pound mechanical baby to the father -- and increase its size as time goes on up to 100 pounds or so. plus make sure the goverment takes at least 1/3 - 1/2 of his money for 18 -20 years or longer. and definitely just execute the girl who had sex and got pregnant to begin with -- after of course she has the child and the government places it in a fine home. This way she won't have the opportunity to murder anyone else.

    Maybe execute the father too. I don't know, I have to think a bit more.

    No really, you have every right to express yourself. I don't like the center justification -- and it is a bit preachy for poetry in my humble opinion. Important thing is to keep working at it.

  • queennefarious
    June 23, 2006
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    This poem is poorly written as well as offensive. You don't have the power to judge someones choice. There are infinite possiblilities why someone would have an abortion, and they may or may not be good ones..we don't know that. The fact that you would compare two subjects that obviously you know little about also seems a bit stupid to me. Being pro life doesn't give you the right to judge. Just like you want to give a voice to the unborn fetuses, who gives voice to the millions of women who have had to do this for whatever the reason?

  • FlawedDestiny
    June 23, 2006
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    Ahhhh I see your a 17 year old boy...hasn't been long since you were a fetus yourself. I think this poem was written more for attention than for point you were trying to make. Well done on that.

  • FlawedDestiny
    June 23, 2006
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    I don't understand how you can dare to compare the halocaust to an abortion! What of women who are raped? Should they be forced to carry that child? Abortion isn't for me, but I wouldn't dare think of taking that right away from others. Do you not use ANY type of birth control? If you do then you are possibly stopping a child from being born. Shame shame shame!
    Are you a man? Because IF you are you have no idea what women go through. If you are a woman than you should be more thoughtful of others.
    ~*Destiny*~


  • NurseChilly gold member
    June 23, 2006
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    another superb comment...

    yes.. why twice??

    bad is too nice a word.. how about crap!???

  • MattSpyder
    June 23, 2006
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    I heard a rumour that in Canada we're bringing abortion back up for vote in parliment, and with the parties numbers it should be beat down, which would be nice. You would think with Bush being in power currently that abortion would be illegal in the States. But in all, good peice.

  • PalmettoSky
    June 23, 2006
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    It all starts with you...The ripple effect is neverending. We only have the power to control ourselves. I liked your poem. thanks for sharing. best of wishes. peace always in all ways!

  • WRetched
    June 23, 2006
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    boy this is bad. why do you have it featured once nevermind twice?



  • Mary the Cat
    June 23, 2006
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    What would plants and animals think about their death for humans in your opinion?

  • NurseChilly gold member
    June 23, 2006
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    Lone Gunman... I would applaud your comment a thousand times if I could

    I hate seeing poems on abortion..!!! even hideous ones like this!

    many thanks for your eloquence... I couldn't have said it better


    Hurrah for the sensibility of someone to see the flaws in this guy's words...


  • forever dreaming
    June 23, 2006
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    Seems the AP crowd are divided on this one but as someone who has lost 6 babies through miscarriage I feel very strongly about people who have abortions purely because it would impinge on their lifestyle. This may sound awful but I'm sorry, there are millions of women out there who would give anything to have a child and cant. Well written in my opinion

  • babygurlie87645
    June 23, 2006
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    I am absolutley pro-life and I'm so glad you wrote something like this. America does need to be more aware of what is going on because it is murder no matter how you try and sugar coat it. Great job with this piece it has such a strong message. You could probably put it on a poster or something for a pro-life campaign. Thank you for writing something with such truth and meaning. I wish there were more people in this world like you because just maybe more innocent children would be saved from abortion as I was.


  • June 23, 2006
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    This is a very skillfully written poem, that touches a subject where people are divided. I myself are pro-choice, but I would most likely never have an abortion if I became pregnant. I am for people at least having the choice. Now, back to the poem. It is beautifully written, and quite heart-wretching. I can see that you have strong opinions about this, and I am glad for it. Keep the ink flowing, dear poet, and thank you for charing your views with us all.

  • Lone Gunman
    June 23, 2006
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    Biased, deeply flawed.

    It's been a while since someone featured a God awful poem on abortions so I'm not suprised that this has emerged now. First of all, I find your comparison with the Holocaust to be offensive. Co-opting the slaughter of 6 million people and twisting it into an argument against abortion is beneath contempt.

    Murder is wrong, abortion does not equate to murder and you have no right to tell a woman what she can or cannot do with her own body. It's a tired argument I know but how exactly do you justify forcing a woman who was a victim of rape or incest to carry the offspring to full term?

    If the offspring could talk, what would it say? I dont know and neither do you. So it may be best to avoid your overly biased speculation.

    Abortion is almost never a decision which is taken lightly, so where's the section in this poem which discusses WHY the abortion is being carried out? Or a little the sympathy for the mother who is no doubt going to be deeply affected?

    Maybe it would be best if you worked up some compassion for people who are already here? Hey... about those kids bombed in Iraq, can we expect a poetry competition on behalf of themr them anytime soon?


  • Master Domtos rose
    June 23, 2006
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    Abortion is a worldwide shame - it isn't just confined to America. And there ARE certain circumstances under which it is justifiable. I challenge you, having written this for the Abortion Is Wrong contest, to go and check out my contest The Devil's Choice, and write something for it as well. It might make you think.

    rose


  • cvillelisa
    June 23, 2006
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    It’s time that we all make the choice
    Exactly. Choice.


    Edited on Jun 23, 10:50 because ''.

  • Magic Bullet
    June 23, 2006
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    Another day in the allpoetry office; another misguided piece of anti-abortion propaganda pretending to be poetry. I'm sure I saw the same thing last week talking from a feotuses point of view. The feotus can't think the things that you empower it with thinking, so this falls down based on this absurdity to get an emotional reaction from readers. At least you acknowledge this absurdity but then go on to imagine what the feotus would say anyway.

    Also, if you actually understood what the holocaut was you wouldn't be stpid enough to compare an abortion to it. Go and read up what happened then see if you can make the parallels you've made with and shred of credibility.


    I love the smell of rhetoric in the afternoon. Smells of holes.

  • Eusebius
    June 23, 2006
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    Bravo!

    Ah, the poetry leaves much to be desired as poetry, but I admire the sentiment a great deal, as you are correct. A Bravo on the subject matter!


  • Image and Visions silver member
    June 23, 2006
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    shar, thank youfor bring this up again, I strongly believe abortion, is an abortion, a blight to our civilization. I do understand their are times when it maybe justified, but certainly not used a contraceptive or rid oneself of responsiblity. image and visions, I ought to recruit you to my poltical circles...lol


  • Frodofan silver member
    June 23, 2006
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    This is a good piece. You've made a great comparison to the holocaust. Abortion disgusts me. Every time I hear that someone I know, even if it's just an aquaitence, has had one it makes me sick to my stomach.... horrible horrible. But this poem is good and it's good to see you stand up for those without voices.


  • Xxi love youxx
    June 23, 2006
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    wow its so true but i think that some people might think differently show this to bush bcuz he needs his eyes open i agree nice work

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