Where John Paul Sartre was sure there is no God, Thomas Aquinas spent a lifetime proving the existence of God.
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Sartre railed beside the Rhine
Nothing from nothing is nothing.
But we are here I say my dear,
Among the stars we are some thing.
I say John Paul and the rest of you all
Who think our essence is trifling
We do exist in the atom's mist
In essence your argument is stifling.
I know from where and you don't care
That we appear out of somewhere here.
Out of nothing, you say, with room to spare
Our essence took shape on this sphere?
Your thoughts are crude, you conceited dude.
You are dumb and dense and rude.
Essence is revealed before existence congealed.
At first it was just concealed.
Thomas Aquinas, I prefer your bias.
For a thing to be a mind must see
How to put it together first.
Ones such as we do not come to be
Just from the atoms in a star burst.
A mind must decide
To make my hide
Like we decide to make cars.
They don't fall together on the assembly line
from the elements made in the stars.
Some dude's planning had to be in the cards.
Atoms don't decide what to put inside
Of the dude's mind or his bod.
This dude was made from sod in the shade
In the essence of the mind of God.
Don't ride over me
With your "nothing" rough shod
And say I must be
Before I am formed.
The essence of this
Is something you missed:
An action that God performed.
We must be conceived before we have breathed
In more ways than one to be done.
Atoms and stars do not make cars.
They're formed in our minds
Before building them with our bods.
The essence of the thing,--
From the mind cars spring.
The idea comes first
In a mind it bursts
Before creation into existence.
It's form on God's insistence
As formed in His mind
In His plan for mankind
Is formed how we can,
According to our plan and His.
A car's essence precedes it's existence.
Ellis
Author notes
Examination of the Existential Philosophy idea that "existence precedes essence."
Written November 12th, 2005
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Who made my car?
Easy! A man made my car.
Who made man?
More complex! God made man.
Who made God?
Impossible! We can never know.
How depressing. We can never know the ultimate origin of my car. -
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Wow this was wonderful John. I totally agree. It was very interesting to read these comments and the diverse opinions. But God did give us free will to think as we chose. Some will never realize they got their creativity from our dear Lord and Savior. This was a pleasure to read. Thank you for sharing. God Bless you. Sandy
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I liked your poem, but also found it disconcerting. Personally to give to the mystery of being (or non-being if you will) a name and project, a causa efficiens, is to place a foot upon the chest of the wonderfully inconceivable and force it against its will to utter a name and teleology, out of fear of course. Your poem in no way tackles any of Sarte's arguments, nor any of the other existentialists. Have you read any Heidegger, whose body of work- especially being and time- Sarte largely developed his ideas in relation to? Heidegger was a Christian, but not a creationist. His project was to enable Being to be revealed in all its mutable mystery, to make a clearing so that we could always experience as best we are able what you may name the divine. But he is far from being an idealist. We like to posit a creator because we wish to be the totality via our relaionship to 'him'... and because we still have yet to pass through fear and trembling and abandon the idea of a discrete self or soul.
Atoms and stars do not make cars.
They're formed in our minds
Before building them with our bods...
(just as we build our gods)
couldn't this be a relation to our mechanisms of signification rather than something metaphysical? -
Very nicely done. Isn't it funny how people will spend so much time and ever to prove nothing when nothing always turns out to be something after all
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Have you ever read the theologian existentialist like Paul Tillich (probably not sp. right) or Martin Buber? Interesting stuff
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Quite an interesting and thought-provoking read my friend...
Yes, i agree whole-heartedly...beings such as ourselves do not just fall together...by chance...all our cells, they don't think, but keep working like little factories to ensure our survival...
There is much suggestion..much evidence..of a will behind it all...an idea that preceded the existence..
As always, your work is a pleasure to read...slightly humourous...quite clever..
well done! keep it up! -
woooow!!!this is lovely!!!!i love the way you rhyme with some of the lines and leave others without any rhyming!!!great stuff, bro....great stuff!!!
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