Seeing the end
Brought death
And new layers of fear
Came forth
This Fear became religion
I Am seeking
To Remember
God took shape in many forms
And Fear said:
“We must kill those who do not worship our God,
defending our selves”
Hate then seemed real
Being passed unto each generation
Still
Pieces of I Am began to speak for love
Science was born
Many pieces were crucified
Herein lies the seeds of Truth
Author notes
A work in progress.
Written March 21st, 2005
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Absolutely true - religion has been one of the most destructive forces we have known through the ages. You worder this so well. I love this series.
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WOW!!! Now we are talking!!! ha ha ha!!! This IS getting better and better! ha ha ha!!! I'll carry on, hope you don't mind getting so many comments. Well if you do, sorry but I'm afraid I'll continue!
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Darkimagination, thank you for the kind words. It is always a pleasure to hear that others enjoy your writings.
peace
doug
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Excellent
Very nice! I like your style of writing it's very deep but still manages to engage the reader. They are also quite short which makes the reader wanting more rather than getting bored. Good work keep it up! -
thus be the crux of hereticked tag slug
skeptics are thou scientists
believing us as man not bugs
squashed and smitten in gods ant farm
as if tunneled grains before one digs
road mapped ahead to the flat plastic tractors of life
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Ah...How fear tries to separate the church and science from the Nameless Love.
But those who have been here know the only separation is that which fear created... -
bam bam, again, thanks for your insights. There are quite a few books I've read over the years that are very similar to this Theory that came to me. I wrote this because I had yet to see anything that combined all these things into one, well, theory. So this is simply an accumulation of things I've learned over the years. A convergence of thought, if you will.
peace
doug
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She's not the only one
. this is some really great stuff, it reminds me of a book that either I read, or one that a friend read and told me about. I remember being deeply affected by it spiritually, as I grew up Irish-Catholic, and had a near-lethal dose of Catholocism (and splinters on my wrists from the nun's with their yard-sticks, as well
). I wish I could remember the book or the author who wrote it, but I can't. yet, having read this far into your collection (I have read #'s 1 through 4, so far
), my memory has been replenished enough, to my liking, at least. but I'll keep reading though because this is just so refreshing! thanks for sharing this enlightening insight!
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Stella, it's easy to "re-forget" this stuff if one doesn't stay focussed on it or hang out with those that do. But we've got all the time in the world. Glad to have reintroduced this line of thought to your consciousness.
peace
doug
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A partner from the past taught me all about this. He was a really great artist/thinker and it opened my way of thinking. I lived in Byron Bay in Australia for a long time where there is a lot of diversity on thinking in many areas. Where I live now people only ever discuss the weather. Thankyou for tapping me in again. I shall keep reading. Another wonderful one.
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Step 4. Four-square. Solid. Building of the structure. Upon this rock, Peter, I shall... The structure is the house, the building, the church (oh boy). My personal sidenote: I am being allegorical here and this has no meaning outside of the context of the journey.
Watuwant, you are capturing an ancient story long forgotten and perhaps one that some wish would never be told again. This is truly an adventure. Beautiful. Chalice -
I do believe that you already are and have been singing this song. Truth is True, is it not?
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Four down
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lol. For some reason, your responses always strike my funny bone! Not in a bad way, either! By all means, if so inspired, inform me of what you think of my work! And thanks for coming by!
peace
doug -
Hmmm
You've at least made me curious enough to read the other pieces before making a decision about your work -
in this poem i real do have to applaud this, for never was any truer word spoken are written. this was so grand indeed. your wisdom takes my breath away. it is so to know that this wisdom is still out there. I thank you so for that . I do want you to know that I am honor to be able to read suh wisdom as this.and I thnak you for it.
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You will be reading the last two, will you not? It all sums up nicely...
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It is probably a little bit of both, faith and revelation, and also more. I'm working on a "theory of everything", kind of like our quantum physicists are doing scientifically. Only I am doing it regarding the spirit, or God, or Creator, whichever term is preferred. It is a work in progress, and yet these 6 pieces have struck me as being quite profound, and they stun me with their beauty.
Thank you for your input!
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I'm guessing this is about the loss of faith or the Revelation? These poems are enough to make anyone question their existance. and are some of the best I've seen on allpoetry because they stray from stereotypes and hypocrisy. AMAZING job.
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No, this is good stuff, not weeds at all! You've given me food for thought, and I will be eating hungrily! lol
Just to reiterate, I Am going to be re-reading these comments, and letting all flow thru me. There are undoubtedly changes and alterations to be made, but nothing will be done in the near future, as I'll take the time to digest some of the things I have heard.
Thank you, for all, up to this point!
Piece
doug
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Having now lost the Self (Whole) Mind we have come to the place of piece. Here, I Am (piece) is trying to understand the current experience (thus science and religion form) and re establish a connection with Whole I ness which seems to be inherently understood by something deep within.
As to the first stanza, it stands on it's own. Only one thing comes to mind- "seeing the end" could be stated as "seeing the illusion of the end." For the end is an illusion. Yet I do not know if this would be an improvement here or just clutter it up a bit.
Stanza two - the line "This Fear became religion" might better be stated "This Fear brought about/birthed/brought forth etc. religion" For religion is not the fear itself but a byproduct of it.
"I Am seeking
To Remember" This is great!
For despite all that we hate about religion in itself, it originated as a way to Re-Member the I Am (Whole). It is what the pieces did with it, that brought about the terrible byproducts we disdain. For as religion came, pieces did not agree with other pieces and the many names for the I Am. Thus your line “God took shape in many forms” fits perfectly.
Now we have reached an important place. For up to now fear was indeed the antithesis of I AM but here – Fear has made a move on it’s own. “And Fear said” Here you have given life to the Enemy – it has a will of it’s own and moves.
“we must kill those who do not worship our God,
defending our selves”
Now the self (as piece) proclaims it needs defended.
In essence what is being said is: “If you do not see the Truth the way we see it…” “Bringing and end to those who are not able to see it our way will make us [a collective group of pieces] look/feel better.”
Stanza five is perfect.
Stanza six, One could move “science was born” to the top. It would read thus:
“Science was born
Many pieces were crucified
Still
Pieces of I Am began to speak for love”
This will help the last line of this stanza flow better into your next line.
(You could even plug in the reason for science if you wanted)
“I Am looked for explanations
Science was born
Still…”
Or something of the sort. Anyway these are just musings of a piece. I am sowing seeds dear poet. If you see that they are all weeds by all means pull them out. You would have never heard them if you hadn’t asked for them.
Edited on Mar 24, 1:25 p.m. because 'You know why'. -
Rob, again, you nailed it. Ego is born, that which is not my self!
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and the circle of fear closes.I am has become self.No longer god or piece He must create a God for/ of hinself.Kill those who deny his God.This is getting deep, right significant!!!!
Back later.This is Huge!!~!
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Hmmm, this is leading somewhere wondrous!
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I think the others sumed it all up! This one is great. This is a great line of poems, and they all have such depth and insight. Truly enjoyable!
<3 Jessi -
Well, thank you for seeking to evoke them.
As for the help I've given, it was my pleasure. You're an amazing poet.
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Sim, this is the exact response and intrique that I was hoping would be evoked from those who read these. In other words, it has been my intent to evoke these things, and my hopes that it leads the reader to opening horizons in thought and then perhaps even beliefs.
Beliefs are not but thoughts, and the only thing that makes a belief true is the believers adherence to it.
Truth, however, is true, and cannot be subjorned by beliefs.
Thank you for reading, my friend, and all of your help is deeply, and humbly, appreciated.
Peace
doug
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I really like how you've linked all these pieces together and yet kept them "broken down" into bit-sized pieces of food for thought. I think all of them together in one unified "poem-whole" would be quite an intimidating specter...excuse me, is quite an intimidating specter. Yet, by seperating them as you have into parts, not only have you made this more readable and accessible and effective, but also created an overarching metaphor for the theory of I Am--the poems are all a part of the Whole and yet each is apart from it in that they stand alone and yet only through taking them all together is the full potential (if you will) reached and the fullest meaning grasped. "The Truth must dazzle gradually, or every man be blind...."
I really liked the separation of "our selves" where it could have been "ourselves" it signifies the gap between the Whole and the Parts that make it up and further cements this understanding of being.
I like the image the "Pieces of I Am" speaking for love, and then the birth of science, and then the crucifixion of many pieces...very well-crafted. I would agree with ToltecWarrior: Which is worse, fear-based religion or the age of reason and science? I offer no definitive opinion, for the simple fact that I don't have one. But I would venture to say that the Age of Reason and Science is just as fear-based as religion. Not only in that I believe it stemmed from fear of religion and what it was doing (one example we just dicussed in Philosophy class was the English revolution in the 1600s, a blood-bath spurred mainly by "religion") but also fear of the Unknown, of not being able to See and Know All Things.
Again, these are thoughts I don't think I've ever really articulated (even to myself) until reading this, although it feels as though the ideas were always tucked away in my head somewhere. I don't know how much Plato you're familiar with, but I definitely feel like I'm thinking Above the Line for once in my life Wow wow wow. I think it should go without saying that this collection and it's author are SO on my favorites list. God bless and be well, Sim.
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Yes, quite the in depth description. And for the last paragraph, "was there a film before our eyes, who then put it there" is the question for the ages. One could say that we put it there, by electing to eat from the forbidden fruit. Which is a metaphor for asking "Who Am I?" Even in the bible it refers to Adam or man falling into a deep sleep. Not once does it talk about him awakening, implying that we still "sleep", or have this film over our eyes.
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Yes, and I tried to capture the aspect of I Am that is science, and reason, refuting the religious aspect of fear, but still fostering the separation, and fostering more crucifictions. Both doing the same, and resenting each other because of, well, fear.
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Wow!! This is perfect. I was going to hint in the comment on the last part how I could see the beginning of religion in the fear and guilt. This brought us right to it. I like the line "Many pieces were crucified" So much meaning in that line.
I sometimes wonder which was worse, the fear based religions, crucifying all who don't follow thier fear, or the age of science and reason, crucifying the spiritual truths of our mystical origins.
Interesting piece.
Toltec Warrior
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