All that can ever be
Is a thought
I Am thought of
The first time I asked
Who Am I
The potential of separation took form
The anxiety brought about
By this One thought
Exploded
Becoming multitudes of
I Am Who?
I have been A Part
Ever since
Herein lies the origins of Fear
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Written March 21st, 2005
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OK. I'm with you on the unreality of the temporal world.
But, for me, once again there is an unconnected leap, from that point to 'multitudes of I am Who?'
I do like the play with a Part/apart
but fear exists before thought, a pre-verbal, primal state.
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I still love this...
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Love this. Thank you. Perfection
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You are welcome, amy7. And thank you for reading...
peace
doug
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Ultimately, Blank, I think the "finding out of who we are" is not real, but more of a dream. My thoughts lean towards that we remember who we are, rather than discovering anything new. So the process of seeking is temporal in nature. I've had some interesting experiential moments in life pointing me to these thoughts, which tend to make more sense than anything else I've heard.
Thanks for the commentary!
peace
doug
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Do you think that we should not try to find out who we are?
Is it better to never know?
Interesting , very interesting piece of writing.
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"Chosen are the few" is what comes to mind with your comments, Mr. Joe. Seems we are all called, yet so few seem to hear. There are more and more of us awakening, however, almost to the tipping point!
Very happy to hear from you, and meet you. Thanks for all the comments, and for reading.
peace
doug
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profundum infinituum
Again, few ever realize the true power of thought and thought alone. It is the energy by which we create our own reality. Whoever coined the phrase,"It's the thought that counts" knew more than he ever revealed.
I have a tires and oldmind tonight. I'be back for more!! Mr. Joe
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Thank you, Zena30. It is always a pleasure when someone stumbles onto my little piece of AP, and even further finds something that resonates in the words I put to paper. This particular series of one of my personal favorites.
Welcome to AP! There are many wonderful poets on this site still, and during my year here, I have been able to expand on my writing. Let us hope it does the same for you!
peace
doug
Sometimes it can be a little frustrating. For example, I'd hoped to re-applaud your applause, but was unable to do so. lol, so even after a year here, there is still much for me to learn.
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Great
I am humbled by your poetry,it speaks of a spirituality which most of us find hard to achieve.
They were written simply and needed to use no empty words to fill out the poem as so many others ovrerwrite and tend to lose the truth.
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Well, this is one of the most interesting responses to a poem that I've gotten here on AP. And you are correct, the separation anxiety of those whose loved ones were in that mine must have been intense indeed. Then to have hope fulfilled, and taken away again.
I don't think I'd ever be able to work in those conditions. Clautrophobia, and all that.
peace
doug
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Let's go find more booze. Not
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I do believe that we are all God and that spiritually seen God is energy that flows and creates and that we are all sparks that will return after we have learnt the lessons we needed to learn in all our lifetimes. This piece is another deeply felt, hard hitting spiritual work of art. Well, off to the next one.
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Well, you're getting me thinking here... I'll move to the next one. This one is better than the first one if you ask me so I guess it gets better and better.... Exciting!
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Born into this life it all seemed to run together in simplicity.And I agree,soon as someone points out our differences.Fear gets a foothold.~`Suseann I'll return to follow this journey.
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Well thank you, and get to writing!!
peace
doug
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I REALLY LIKE THE WAY YOU WORD YOUR THOUGHTS.....IT MAKES ME WANT TO START WRITING
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Thank you, Al. It is quite a pleasure to hear that this resonates with those who are agnostic-atheist. I prefer to see our world and existence as one of a unified dream, where coming together means so much more than what our religions have offered us throughout the ages.
Thanks for coming by.
peace
doug
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Very nice work, I applaud this entire series of "The Theory of a Unified Mind" poems. As an agnostic/atheist it is a joy to find someone writing poetry this interesting regarding the subject of spirituality and the human condition. -Al
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Taurelilomea, no apologies necessary. One hope I had in writing this series was to provoke thought in the reader, which also could therefore provoke such responses back to me. I appreciate you sharing your thoughts and am quite happy that this poem resonates with you.
In my view, organized religion is the bane of our world, and even the root cause of many of our worldly problems. Yet I have also been fortunate enough to have found a view on god that leaves nobody behind, does not recognize sin, and sees forgiveness as the one and only way out of this dream.
Thank you for coming by, and for the comments.
peace
doug
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Very Good.
I know this is rather an odd place to begin commenting on all of these works but this one struck me hard. As yourself I have been raised in a strict catholic family and had felt perpetually guilty for deriving nothing from the practices and traditions. I do not view myself as an atheist.. more or less agnostic, believing more in a central energy than a being but I have reason to believe my view is distorted owing primarily to my bias against organized religion and recognizing a one God. (wow.. what a run-on..heh) I suppose..what I am attempting to relay is the fact I am willing to reconsider the fact of a one God, but shall do so slowly as not to reintroduce the facets of organized mental butchering. I shall continue to read your poems. I apologize if this comment was in any way exhausting. -
Yes, seems that our advertising, politics, religions, ways, are all a mirror of the internal battles we face. Yet rather than face these battles, we project them outward, thereby creating the very world that we are most afraid of within. The parrallels are astounding, actually.
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perhaps that is why self loathing seems to be the national pasttime
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fear is the mind killer-Frank Herbert
Its funny you should see this,
and yet our society,
thrives on whom we should be
based on advertising credits
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Barbara, thanks for taking the time to read a couple of these! And perhaps you are right in that I Am the only one here. Gives one much to ponder, since we all can say I Am.
peace
doug
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Ah the big question, who am I? which leads to why am I here? which leads to there must be a reason, and is this as good as it gets? Personally I have travelled that road and it always leads straight back to me... best to just accept you are here because you are.. well i suppose it's best if you are a non believer like me
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I ♥ your poem it is so well writen i am put-ing you on the favs so i can read all your poems when i have the time!
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Aspasia, once again thanks for coming by and sharing. No, we cannot be independent of god, despite or perceived separation. The reason why the "fear of the lord is the beginning of knowledge" is because one cannot understand high without knowing low, good without knowing evil, knowledge without also experience lack of such. Fear is an illusion, perceived and powerful but an illusion nonetheless. It does propel us to seek the knowledge we come from, and with which we are never apart from.
peace
doug
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Separation is the beginning of fear? Sometimes, I suppose. Separation might also be the beginning of one's own identity. Independence is also importance, but we are never independent of God, are we. "The fear of the lord is the beginning of knowledge", rolls round my head, but doesn't apply.
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Thanks, dogsamongus! Truly, this series is one of my all time favorites, and it pleases me to hear others enjoy it so!
peace
doug
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I love the continuing entries. They're like journal writings in poetic form. Very unique.
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Ah...The "Big Bang" of thoughts
The story of eden was created to make us believe our separateness.
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Stella, thank you again! This particular series is something that I have become quite pleased with, overall. Glad you are enjoying it.
peace
doug
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I really love your work.
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Thanks, Shiny New! Very glad to hear you enjoyed this.
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doug
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Yay - more please!
I love your humor - wisdom with a twist - "a wry" turn of phrase and a wonderful depth of understanding and sharing - clever too! -
Ah Cosmic, always one with comments of vision! I look forward to you reading the rest of this little creation, simply to get your input! Thanks for coming by...
peace
doug
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The energy you feel is the waakening of the kundalini.... the fire of understanding... cool... I like the way we think. LOL
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p be w-o the j! Thanks! Truly, your comments and stopping by are appreciated. And I have been contemplating chaning my name to Dig, because I'm tired of living in the past! lol, just kidding of course.
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doug
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By the way...Doug is a veeery cool name...it rhymes with rug and tug...
This was very insightful...and my brother is breathing down my neck...so i will comment later...
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Absolutey, taranand, as the choice has always been ours. Yet when the choice is made, which we have done, then the veil of fogetfulness over who we really are then falls into place, thereby fueling the illusion that is caused by our attachment to such things. Therein lies the split mind, and the one the ego has been controlling for a long time. At least in most of us. Which further is the entire point behind this little series of mine, to simply put a reminder call out to all.
You are one of the ones who sees, from what I can "see." lol, Thanks for coming by!
peace
doug
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Separation anxiety is a product of attatchment. When we attatch ourselves to the things of this world (Even our own
human bodies and ego), we feel anxious.That's because all
these things are finite and temporary.
When we attatch ourselves to the Infinite within; to the great teachers who have come to speak of that experience and to those who are aspiring towards it, then the feelings of separation go away. The choice is ours.
Dance to the music in your soul...love,
Tara
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lol, and who, pray tell, are you apologizing too? I certainly do not require it, or desire it. To each their own.
And further, having not read anything by descartes, what's the difference? Does the message itself not matter?
Thanks for coming by.
peace
doug
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This seems too much like a rephrasing of Des Cartes' theorum:
"I think, therefore I am."
I realize that's the obverse of that, but it still seems more like a rephrasing than anything.
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Aspasia, your feelings of not "knowing" this are relevant, in that they are yours. I would suggest to you, however, that this can be proven, to your satisfaction. Indeed, put your "thought" to the test.
In other words, think of someone, perhaps whom you have not seen or thought of in awhile, and send them this thought, and then sit back and see what, if anything, happens...
peace
doug
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from1chalice, you have grasped the tone and intent perfectly! thank you very much for coming by!
peace
doug
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This one I don't follow. I don't reaally get started with you on this. If the statement is that this is all thought, I think not. I don't know, but I don't think it is just thought.
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Step 2. Polarization. This and that. Here and there. In and out. Black and white. Herein lies the origin of 'sin', the origin of original sin. The eating of the forbidden fruit that makes one insane. The creation of an alter 'ego' a fake me. Don't eat - because you will place yourself inside a mirrored box. What you push out only comes back. Beautiful.
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Mandaen, you are correct sir! Leaving the drugs out of it, for now, this is the manifestation of a lifetime's worth of seeking. The past 3-4 weeks have found me unable to sleep, and coursing with an energy that has inspired these works. The epiphany was when they all came together, sort of like puzzle pieces falling into place. Which is why I call it a work in progress...
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Two down
You know, I'm getting the feeling that this was written in a state of epiphany while high off of something (not necessarily drugs) and that the simplicity of your articulation is the manifestation of your temporary understanding of the limitations of language and its vulnerability to interpretation, experience and desire. I'm feeling it (smile) -
Well thank you, Rain Dancer! Your words carry the truth on my emotional response to this 6 part theory. Thank you for coming by!
peace
doug
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That was amazing-and really easy to relate to...you could see so much emotion that you put into this peice-and I love that.! Great job
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Lady, my faith has been strengthened by my experiences in life, which in the past 8 years or so have been miraculous in scope and wonders. The level of inner peace, which seemed so far out of reach in my youth, has been found, turning my faith into knowledge. Knowledge and beliefs are separate entities.
Thanks for your comments.
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if i could only clear my mind enough to believe this... let me re-phrase that... to believe constantly... to remember
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wow such truth in such few words. this was somind provoling to say the least. where do you find such wisdom as this. it seem to be wisdom of the ages. I am really enjoy these poems of you cna't wait to read the rest fo them thank you you so very much for shareing these poems with us
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It's only getting better.
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Thank you, too weird. It is quite humbling...and awe insiring...
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Wow. This is even better then the first. The mystery and epicness (word?...) of this poem is so...uplifting, but at the same time humbling. Nice work.
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You got it, Rob! That is a good point about "ever" and I will be giving it thought. Indeed, I think you may be right.
doug
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I, perhaps know too much, my friend.I smell the f e a r coming.
Who? And on the question the wholeness is gone and the ego redefines one as Part of, as apposed to God. And the ego, and sin is born.This is my take, thus far.I am no longer looking at other comments, so as to read it as me, define it thusly.This is important work.One little point, look at the last stanza without Ever.I see a possible wordplay there or even a clarification of message.?? -
Jessi, I have it all figured out. The bottom line is this. I have nothing to fear, having never been alone, despite the years spent feeling alone. So yes, I still experience the ups and downs of emotions. What I now know, however, and knowledge superceded beliefs, is that I Am eternally safe. All the guidance I need, comes. All the strength I need, comes. It has been my experiences thus far that have shown me this. It was not until my mid-30's that these truths began to sink in for me, so my advice to you is to simply Be, and listen within, where you will be directed.
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doug
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This is just very, very deep. The "who am I" question. I find myself asking that more and more each day. But as a grown man do you still feel as if you don't know? Maybe, since the world never stops changing, we don't either, so we can never really know who we are. Or is that true? Is there someone who thinks they know and that they have it figured out? I'm sure theres someone like that. I think I'm more partical to always changing, and not knowing, because then you get to learn, and (as dorky as this sounds) I love to learn! Yet again, I have more tho think about! I love all the lines in here. It's just put together so well!
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Again, wonderful! And you gave me a great idea. I have a young friend here at allpoetry, a young girl, who I am going to ask to read this as well, to get the viewpoint you suggested. She is older than 16, but not much.
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Wow. This is a rather amazing collection so far. Very deep and very thought-provoking. I am certainly humbled not only by your poetry and the ideas it proposes but also by the comments other's have left. What could a 16 year old girl possibly have to say in addition? It is quite a "coincidence" that I "happen" to currently be taking philosophy 101 at the college. My eyes have certainly been opened by this poem, not so much as something that I didn't already know or feel or believe, but as something I never had the words to express. I love it when poems do that. We are all One and yet all unique and separate beings in our own right, but we are never apart without being a part of the original One.
As some of the others mentioned, "a part" is quite brilliant and I love playing with words like that. "A void/Avoid", "A bout/About", etc. Very nice work. You are certainly helping to expand my thinking processes...and inspiring me to actually go finish my philosophy homework... Can't wait to read the next one....
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Presence, this is exactly what I am looking for in asking you to critique. After you've read them all, commented on what strikes you, I will then let all these wonderful comments flow thru me to see what comes from it. So as you know, it is all good. Your help is very much appreciated!
As for your final statement, Indeed I Am standing up and saying the things Jesus said. Seems to me that more of us need to do the same. I simply wonder what has taken us so long to do so? Collectively, that is, since many have said the same ever since, and many of them have been crucified for it as well. Until later...
Peace
doug
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Important work.
My Dear Doug, this is probably the most concise recount of the One fractured into Many that I have yet to read. It is perfect as Part II coming off of Part I going from the Whole to the Separateness. As you have asked for an honest in depth review, here it is:
One question that needs to be answered is in the first line of the second stanza:
“The first time I asked”
Clarification may need to be made to the reader if the "I" is
(A.) the personal self [having realized the true Self] speaking from the perspective of first person, (the Piece) “the first time I [Doug] asked Who Am I…” or
(B.) the "I Am" Self, One, Source, (the Whole) that is the subject of most of the action in this series. “the first time that I AM asked Who Am I…”
I realize that in Truth they are both the same, yet this one instance may need clarification. The reason for this is if we are talking about (A.) above then the sentence…
“The potential of separation took form”
…would seem out of place. For if “I, Doug” asks “Who Am I” it is not so much a “potential for separation” as a “potential for unification” which would be taking form.
If it is (B.) that is a different story, which would lead to my second question…
The next question I have is the use of the word “anxiety” in stanza three - let me explain. It is tough for me to conceptualize I Am (as Whole) with anxiety. For me I Am is the embodiment of Peace, Love, Serenity etc. To consider the Whole having anxiety because of a question to Self of “Who am I” seems foreign to me. This is a personal feeling on my part and certainly does not make what you have here “wrong”. Drawing from the paths I have traveled I would probably insert words/concepts/beliefs such as: “the want of companionship (loneliness), the want of experience (curiosity, divine play)” for the Cause. If these were used the word “exploded” might be changed to “unfolded” or such. (Unfolded would fit if you had a paradigm that we are part of the unfolding lotus of the universe)
Again, these attitudes/beliefs/concepts/opinions are from personal experience, and they are not a “gospel truth”, or anything of the sort.
The line-
“I have been A Part
Ever since”
Is brilliant!
The use of the word “fear” at the very end was mysterious to me until I read your response to Thoreau47’s comment. “And I use the term fear because it also encapsulates all feelings which are not love, including loneliness.” One might also use the term “separateness”. If that word were used here it would have to be substituted for the word “fear” in some of the areas it appears in the following series.
Overall these are exceptional works for their scope and the truth contained. Don’t take the things I say too seriously. I have found that sometimes it is best to stick with what came from the Source when I wrote it down. Then again some pieces are in continual edit.
An interesting note about Thoreau47’s quote of Jesus: “Jesus said something to the effect, Was it not said that you were gods?”
This is from John 10:22-34 Here Jesus was about to be stoned to death. Why? Because He stood up and said “I and my Father are one.” This ticked off the Jews that heard it, they called it blasphemy, and were about to do Him in. His defense was to quote Psalm 82, saying “Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?” (He had a lot more to say to them along these lines I will not reprint here, but is worth checking out if you are interested.)
Why do I mention this? Because YOU Dear Poet are standing up and saying those exact same things.
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Thoreaus, that is exactly the intent I had hoped to be conveying, that which you are grasping. Somewhat of a generalized encapsulation of all that is, as we know it. And I use the term fear because it also encapsulates all feelings which are not love, including loneliness.
By no means does this mean that loneliness is a "bad" feeling, only that it stems from fear, one of the many facets that fear takes.
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Yes, good, that is my intent, entirely.
doug
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I have been "A part" Ever since...GREAT line! Really GREAT!!!!
It says we are a part of God, but through our imagined separation were are apart, which is the underlying beginnings of fear. So much truth in so few words. Great! I can't wait to read the next piece of this grand poem.
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