Poor poor little suicide,
Tried to cut, wanted to die,
Every night, sat and cried,
You really suck at living lies
Need any more description than that?
RULES
Chat lingo=you die
cussing=(see above)
erotica=Karma will bite your ass
abuse=no no
pro cutting=disqualified immediately
DISCLAIMER
I have sympathy towards those who suicide. No pity. I am in no way advocating suicide, and am in no way telling you to go hang yourself (now!). This contest is aimed at the teen cutting/suicide contests/poems out there on this site that make me (and many others) insane. You don't want us to go mad, do you? Let's let out some steam.
(Side note: I have been affected by suicide. I have attempted suicide (next time, I'll tie the rope right, eh?). I still do not approve of it nor will it get my mercy.)
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(sigh) people. This contest is not for those who truly suffer. Thank you Tina Brannon for giving me such a neat comment and making me (whether you tried or not) change my words.
You shouldn't write poems (now I haven't read any of these yet) about those who are truly living in misery and truly have a good reason to die. I'm not sure I can list "good" reasons to suicide or S-I, but I sure know bad ones: 1; popularity, 2; no bf/gf; 3; bad grades, 4; parents are strict.
Um, and for those of you who say I have no right to say these things, I deem it neccesairy to tell you... I do. I am, as they call in the psych department, a masochist. That's not a good reason to S-I. I did it for the pain. Not to get my mind of emotional pain, but to do it to feel the physical. No details of what I did. I think I listed three below, though. So, uh. Superficial. Stupid suicide. Fake pain. That is what this is aimed for. And new thing? Prewrites!!!
Oh, ah hm. Have fun now! And yous all (I just learned that's Pennsilvanian, the "yous." Was my source right?) get along together.
(99% of the people who have dissed this contest secretly love the idea)
The Dark Elf
Tried to cut, wanted to die,
Every night, sat and cried,
You really suck at living lies
Need any more description than that?
RULES
Chat lingo=you die
cussing=(see above)
erotica=Karma will bite your ass
abuse=no no
pro cutting=disqualified immediately
DISCLAIMER
I have sympathy towards those who suicide. No pity. I am in no way advocating suicide, and am in no way telling you to go hang yourself (now!). This contest is aimed at the teen cutting/suicide contests/poems out there on this site that make me (and many others) insane. You don't want us to go mad, do you? Let's let out some steam.
(Side note: I have been affected by suicide. I have attempted suicide (next time, I'll tie the rope right, eh?). I still do not approve of it nor will it get my mercy.)
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(sigh) people. This contest is not for those who truly suffer. Thank you Tina Brannon for giving me such a neat comment and making me (whether you tried or not) change my words.
You shouldn't write poems (now I haven't read any of these yet) about those who are truly living in misery and truly have a good reason to die. I'm not sure I can list "good" reasons to suicide or S-I, but I sure know bad ones: 1; popularity, 2; no bf/gf; 3; bad grades, 4; parents are strict.
Um, and for those of you who say I have no right to say these things, I deem it neccesairy to tell you... I do. I am, as they call in the psych department, a masochist. That's not a good reason to S-I. I did it for the pain. Not to get my mind of emotional pain, but to do it to feel the physical. No details of what I did. I think I listed three below, though. So, uh. Superficial. Stupid suicide. Fake pain. That is what this is aimed for. And new thing? Prewrites!!!
Oh, ah hm. Have fun now! And yous all (I just learned that's Pennsilvanian, the "yous." Was my source right?) get along together.
(99% of the people who have dissed this contest secretly love the idea)
The Dark Elf
Contest is Over
- Contest was judged on October 8, 2004
- Rewards: Gold: 500
- Final notes: Well, sorry this contest took so long to judge. I wanted to get rid of some of my points, so I ran this one at the same time as my emotions one. That one is proving much harder to judge, and guiltily, I haven't read all of the entries yet. I have few left, and some pretty good ones on the trophy waiting list, so that one'll end soon. (cross your fingers, eh?)
First: 500 points
Second: 300 points
Third: 100 points
Fourth: 50 points
HMs: 20 points
I chose Life Owes You Nothing by Circutsboard for first place. The beginning I like, and is everything I asked for in this contest. I also love the twist at the end. It's a rather ironic ending, but it makes a wonderful point.
The Point by emvyar took second. This was an awesome poem, I though, and after reading it a couple times, I love it even more. A truly aweseome poem, and I'm sure an awesome poet is behind it.
What goes around Comes Around by blondeoverblue recieved third place. A really good and nicely flowing poem. Read it, I don't know what to say on its behalf (except that it's good!).
Fourth: (Though ya don't get a trophy) Your Final Suicide by pixyblade6. A good description (and complaint) about how people Say they're suicidal, but they say it over and over again. A wonderful poem and deserving of third place.
Honorable Mentions (aka, those that were really close):
Whiners by ashes-to-dust
Victim by emvyar (no double points for you)
Poor me by Anasuya
An Ode to Cutters by horus 8
Remember, if at first you don't succeed, stop with the drama.
The Dark Elf
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it's supposed to be satirical.
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by ashes-to-dust 18 lines, 7 comments, on Sep 9 11:14 PM 2004. In Other• Commented on by judge.
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I type, I rhyme,
I waste my time.by Xiao-Tian-Shi 23 lines, 13 comments, on Sep 9 11:45 PM 2004. In Humor• Commented on by judge. -
(To the tune of 'Two little Dicky-birds')
Two little egotists,• Commented on by judge. -
Nervous. Cautious.
Bloody fingers,• Commented on by judge. -
You get out daddys gun,
and for your head you aim.• Commented on by judge. -
HA!
so you have been hurt,• Commented on by judge. -
you are tasteless affection
everyone's had a piece of you• Commented on by judge. -
I'm down on my knees
oh pity me please• Commented on by judge. -
Russian roulette.
What a game.• Commented on by judge.
Silver trophy winner
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Great idea for a contest! I am slowly being driven insane by all the immaturity and self-pity I read/see here (and everywhere else).
We need to rant every once in a while about it!
Woohoo!
I'd have entered "Suicide" if prewrites were allowed, although it's not precisely what you want. Thanks for making me work for a chance at those points!
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WHOOOO!!!
*mad applause and jumping up and down*
Okay, so I'm over-excited. I just thought I was the only one that was really sick of all those pathetic cliched 'I'm so soooo depressed' kids and t their making suicide attempts into something of a trend. It sickens me.
So I'm applauding your contest, I really hope I can think of something to enter.
Best of luck with all your entries.
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Fuckin' A, I'll definitely be entering this contest; I can assure you of that.
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Excellent idea for a contest!! I *heart* you =). I might enter but I'm stuck for inspiration on poetry for now.
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frankly I think this idea sucks..because everyone needs a place to vent...and if one doesn't like it...then either ignore it ...or leave the site...because some are crying out out for some to listen... where is your compassion?
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i agree with side... totally just ignore it some are trying to have others adivice too... i mean who are you to tell them that its this that or the other thing its their life not yours ~Dragonia~
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I agree with side too... some of us need to vent need to tell we cut because it helps. I know personally. Some of us need to vent. If you don't like it ignore it. I do agree it is posted way too much and some is on the bad side, but it's still venting. But what they hay it's your contest.
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oh and another thing...it's hard to read the links. I can't see them at all
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SELF SERVING!, SELFISH!
hey very very bad idea if you want to do something why dont you offer sugestions and other alternatives to suiced but making them feel like they are worthless on top of how they obviously already feel is NOT an aswer! besides you claim you doing this cause you dont like reading theres well TWO WRONGS HAVE NEVER MADE A RIGHT!. -
I understand you get tired of hearing it but hey this site isn't for just happy sappy people. I come here to rant and rave and vent sometimes but not to get someone to feel bad for me but to get it out. It is therapy for many people. If there is any bashing at the poets who write of suicide or cutting then this is very wrong. Everyone has a right to write what they want, don't like it dont read it. Those that bitch and complain about a cutting poem should not read the damn thing. They need to shut the fuck up and read stuff that makes them smile then.
Hugs, Lady Raven -
I have to agree with you.
But he has a right to this contest, just as we have a right to vent about cutting, if he doesn't like it that's his problem and he can choose not to read it.
I come here for the same reason. I have witness two of my friends kill themselves, so I understand. I vent, and can honestly give a shit less if people read my stuff though it is appreciated, I like this site, but the more personal to me the better, where as most people want attention.
I don't think any one should down any one else for what they write because thats them. Unless it is truely offensive, and this contest is a little, but I really don't care, there's a lot of, well, I just don't care, but thanks for pointing this out to me Vamp,
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This contest really is wrong. Why would you hate the ones that need help? Why not just help them? They are crying out for help to get over whatever is making them this way. Just help them instead of insulting them.
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I am not going to say this is a bad idea for a contest, because you can write whatever you want to... But i just would like you to realize that so can everyone. You dont need to be bashing the more morbid-like writers...And you definately dont need to go saying that its driving you insane. Honestly, if you don't like to read about self-injury, self-mutilators, cutters, suicide..etc.. You dont have to! I just think you need to watch how you word things. As you can tell, it has hit a sore spot on many people.
Thank you,
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i wrote one perfect for this a LOONG time ago...can i enter it as a prewrite?
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You know some people never cease to amaze me. Where is the compassion? My brother committed suicide on August 19th. It is something I think about every day and probably always will. I also am a recovering cutter. I realize some kids just write about it to "fit in" but there are actually people that suffer from this and it helps them to write when they can't talk about it. You do have a right to have a contest on whatever you want but don't sterotype everyone into one category. People do things for different reasons. I am not justifying it. Just saying we are people too, and if I can write a poem about it instead of picking up a knife, then good for me! --Jenn
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Like alot alot of other people said, this contest is a bad idea if you ask me. I mean there is alot of cutting and poems like that, and too much if you ask me. But I shouldn't talk thats the only poems I have. anyways people are looking for help, even though its just over the net. It shouldn't really matter. And if you don't like it, just ignore it like many other people said, people do need to vent out at how the feel sometimes...and like baby ice dragon said, why would you hate the ones that need help?
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I happen to agree with you about this subject...venting about cutting is one thing...but when its cb cut that...and my name is razor that....and all the poems are about that...and how much i want to die....it tends to get very old very quick especially when everyone is writing about it.....just because it annoys me doesn't mean im some self centered bastard, or that i don't get cutting or blah blah blah blah......thats not the point, the point is move on.....grow....in fact anymore...it seems like the majority of poetry around on sites like this, is all about happy happy love...or suicide and cutting.....i got an idea... hang out on some site like vampirefreaks.com or something post your poetry in their forums...and personally i don't believe cutters who are really serious about cutting go aorund and talk about cutting...cause it gets you locked up...that and its a personal thing anyway....
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Hmmm. I'm kind of torn here. It seems that true critiques on poetry about cutting isn't really appreciated, and that suggests that those who write them (and I've been there, done that myself) simply went to vent, not necessarily share the art of their poetry. If that be the case, why post it at all? Just something I've kind of wondered about.
I DO think this contest idea is new. Something that hasn't been done, and therefore, I can appreciate its originality. Too much of anything can sometimes be a bad thing. I'm disgusted with all the happy happy fluff poems I see in droves these days, but I stop to critique the form and style, if not the content. I'll do the same with the poems posted here as well. I may not agree with a subject, but I'll still respond to the poem. And here's the key... I don't respond to the writer... I don't say "Oh, I'm SO sorry you've gone through that." I actually hate seeing that in comments. But, I'll tell ya what I think about your poem, that's for sure. This is as good an opportunity for me to do that as any.. so.. bring on the poems. -
Like most of the others said, this is a bad idea. I'm quite tired of reading suicide posts unless it's good, but come on. No need to insult any of the people here at allpoetry, none the less tell them to kill themselves. But hey, this is YOUR contest, feel free to do whatever you please. I'm just surprised that people are entering this puked up mess of a contest to actually give a damn. But hey, whatever.
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I think this is a unique, new idea for a contest. I can't understand everything you meant, but what I did figure out (probably not your fault, I'm just slow
) I really liked. It seems like a very cool idea. I hope you get the kind of entries you were looking for and I wish you luck judging the contest (I've heard it can get hard 
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Love
Amelia
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It looks like you've opened up a quite controversial subject with this contest. I've read up on some things regarding cutting and have learned that it really is a serious problem for many of our young people, suicide also. The poems I've read about cutting and suicide, I take as a plea for understanding and help.
I tend to share the opinions of some of the others who've commented, though. I personally don't feel that a person effected by the serious dilemma's facing them these days, is a matter to be scorned, ridiculed or otherwise spoken of in a derogatory way. We all need a little help with out thinking, our actions, at times.
Compassion and understanding, doing something about the CAUSE is of great importance to the people who are suffering. Real or not, it needs to be addressed in an effective and helpful way....not ridiculed because this is what they've been driven to for whatever reasons.
Dee
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This would be a perfect example of a few people ruining something for everybody else, a few people doing something that makes everyone else who does something similar look like an ass. Whatever, I'm not in the fighting mood tonight
I just think you should all keep your minds a little more open.
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What a poet writes is their own decision, though in a sense I do agree that it is a tad bit annoying. Generally a teenager goes through emotional stages in their life until they grow older or until they go off and commit suicide, a lot of teenagers only wish to die and it isn't serious and they get over it but other times it can be very serious.
I'm not going to make a big deal out of this and tell you to delete your contest because it isn't any of my business. Your contest cannot be stopped by a bunch of people who are against your ideas.
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As a recovering cutter and suicidal teen, I just want to say that I can understand where you are coming from. I did those things not to fit in but because I hated myself and it honestly felt good. It hink so many people out there are glorifying it and doing it to fit in and to be part of a crowd. I never showed my cuts on purpose. It seems these kids are crying out suicide and showing their cuts just for attention. What really upset me is that the other day , person will remain unnamed, was whining about how she was going to die because she hadn't been asked out and so therefore she wanted to kill herself. Hello!! There are some people out there who have problems 100 times worse than she in her small minded world could ever imagine. And I wonder how she would deal if she were put in a REAL life with actual problems.
Basically what I am trying tos ay is that I think some teens are completely overreacting to trival things and wanting to die for the stupidest reasons...my boyfriend cheated on me, I can't get a date, I haven't won any contests on AP (I have seen that one listed before). All those are such trivial reasons to want to die, and you have to get a grasp on your emotions and not let them go overboard.
Its hard to do that when your hormones are raging & you are going through so many changes in your life. I just wish those who really suffer, weren't ignored and pushed aside by those who thinks it is cool or do it for attention. Because if you say you want to kill yourself just to see how many people will respond with how special you are and how the world will be at such a huge loss without you, you are pretty dang pathetic. If you really ARE suicidal, please seek help and this message isn't aimed towards you in a negative light. I'm just digusted with those people who fake to get attention.
I hope you get what you want out of this contest.
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sidewinder:
Check out my author page. I have no compassion. -
dragonia:
Because I've done it. I have every right. -
ember:
see my reply to dragonia's (right above my reply to you). And the links are black. I did that on purpouse. Hilight if it bothers you. -
purple sky:
The other side has a right to an opinion, correct? I am merely offering that focal point. -
ice dragon:
I don't hate them. I just don't approve of what they do. And this isn't aimed at the people; it can be, but it's aimed mostly at their whiny bitchy no-good immature additudes that I get bombarded with a lot. -
chibbermonkey:
As can everyone write, so can I. People should realize this. I'm not writing this contest for the mere fact that people write about their pain or whatever. I'm writing it because tehy do it too often and look at it like it's a particularly good thing.
About bashing morbid writers.... Uh, read some of my poems. You'll get to know the word "sadist" and "morbid" a lot better.
But it is driving me insane.
Anyway, please don't reply to this right away, I have shit loads of these to reply to, and I really can't handle a one on one conversation right now. -
lithium:
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Jenn:
I had a good friend kill himself. I am a "recovering" masochist. I'm not steryotyping. Did you read my disclaimer? -
tickle me emo:
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bishonen:
Everyone has a right to his or her own opinion. I am merely giving room for the opposing viewpoint on this particular subject to give theirs. Free speech and all that rot, yes? -
catz:
You should read my (many) replies. I've cut. I've burned. I've beat myself up with a metal baseball bat. I've come out of my room bruised and bleeding. Why? Because I did. It was a problem, and it was serious. But Too many people don't do it for problems. I knew this girl who did it because her best friend (who had a problem) did it. I know someone who did it because they broke up with their boy/girlfriend. This is what I am directing this contest to. Perhaps I should reword. I have to edit it anyways.... -
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I have decided ahead of hand not to fight over this contest. There will be those who love it and there will be those who scorn it. I have accepted that. And my mind is open. Read my other comments here. -
kissmysock:
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tina brannon:
Exactly. That is why I wrote this contest (perhaps I should make it more clear?). I don't like suicide because of boy/girlfriends. I don't like cutting because of grades. Superficial passing things like that should not be trifled over. And you have gotten my whole meaning, whether I wrote it or not. That is exactly how I feel. The real ones who suffer are overshadowed many times by the ones who don't that no one gets there in time. They're so concerned about "warning signs" based on posers, that they miss the real ones. Thanks for your comment. It's the first real intelligent one I've recieved. -
Hmmm... interesting idea... not too sure as to what's acceptable or not, just saying that it seems to be a good idea. I for one will not be entering since I really haven't been affected by it, or at least am not aware that I have. Good luck with the contest!
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Ok. I read this. I read all comments including ur disclaimer and am planning on reading the poets. And i don't care if people agree with me on my opinion. You're entitled to yours as is everyone and ffs finally someone said it right!! I am so sick and tired of reading people writing shit about how they broke up with their partner or aren't popular at skool and thought the only way to fix it was to either seriously attempt to kill themselves or leave some piss ass mark on their body that people would notice and they would get sympathy for. I've cut and i did it for the pain. Not because i wanted attn nor to make it seem that i am less of a person and more of a sook. I wanted to thank u for giving a new insight about what it REALLY means and y some things dont constitute a reason to end your life.
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Congratulations on your open mind. I assure you that my comment was directed at all involved.
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Aye, but not all of us cut for a little mark that we want sympathy for, or because we broke up with someone. I just wanted to bleed and slowly fade away, but not really die. Too complicated to explain at the moment. I undestand. Yes you do have the right if you have been then and back. Trust me, I don't like all the cutting poems and yes I do think it's glorified when it shouldn't be, but sometimes you need to vent. I'm glad you have the open mind to accept that people will frown upon this contest. Anyways, I'm rambling.
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Well I am one to come back and see how this has progressed. I have to say I like the changes you did to the contest. the way it started sounded more like lets bash the cutters and teens that get depressed etc. I think some people don't like to hear and see that type of writing cuz they don't want to have to face the fact that it happens everywhere all the time. And it is sad. Those that do it for attention, yes they piss me off as well. But those that do it and try to hide the scars are different. I have a poem for a guy that did it for no other reason than to have people send him email asking if he is ok. Dumb ass. I may add that poem to your contest if I may.
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I still don't know what to enter, so here's some I think you may like:
You Might Be Joking allpoetry.com/Poem/718677
Perfect Poison allpoetry.com/Poem/706482
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this is as great idea for a contest. yea some ppl who want to kill themselves have horrible reasons. like the first time i went to a therapist he kept asking me if i had a bf and i was ready to scream 'no dickfuck i don't and i wouldn't want to die because of some fucking guy!' okay srry i just had to get that out. n e way great contest.
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Alright - I have read the entire slew of replies...I agree with you - I'm personally sick of a lot of the cutting/suicide poems out there - reason being? Most of them (nowadays) tend to deal with "trivial problems" (such as boy/girlfriends, school, popularity etc you know what I mean) instead of real issues. I'm not saying that they shouldn't be written - if it helps that person vent, then fine. I choose not to read them though. In every one of my contests I have specified "No cutting" as a rule, they make me either sad (I am quite the compassionate person) or disgusted (ie the cutting/suicide for trivial stuff, or just to get attention).
Now, having said this, I have been suicidal TWICE now in my life. The first time was after my son was born - I was suffering from Post-Partum Depression, it wasn't for any other reason than my hormones were all out of whack. I almost went through with it, but I have my ex-husband to thank for saving my life and getting me the help I needed. The second time however, has been very recent - here's a real problem for those who do not have any. When I got divorced, my ex-husband would not let me take my son with me (I moved out of state - 12 hours away to be exact) and well, since I didn't have the money for my own attorney, I let him have custody of our now 3 year old little boy. I've been gone for about 6 1/2 months now, and due to financial problems (I don't even make enough money to stay caught up on my bills), I have only seen him ONCE (well, twice if you want to be technical - I visited for the weekend and got to see him both Saturday and Sunday) since March. Every day I struggle with oceans of tears, and for some reason, I thought it would be better if I killed myself. Thankfully, my boyfriend has always been there for me, and I can credit him with saving my life too. If I didn't have his strength to lean on, I doubt I would be here. My son would not have a mother at all, I don't know why I thought that would have been a good alternative but I did. So, I have written a couple of "suicide" pieces...but I didn't do it so much as to draw attention - actually, I really didn't want anyone to read them! LOL I wrote them to vent, to see if maybe writing about my feelings might change them. I posted them because, well, I post everything. Besides, I didn't have the strength to talk to my boyfriend face to face about it - I figured if I had it written down somewhere it would have been easier. And it was. So there's a real problem for ya. Every day I feel another piece of myself dying, it's the hardest (and biggest mistake) thing ever.
I don't feel like anyone should bash anyone else though. But then again, who am I to talk? I've bashed my ex-husband countless times here...but I think that those who really have issues and are really trying not to end their lives, well, I think this could hurt them. People will read just out of curiousity...good luck with your contest - sorry I took up so much of your time.
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Wow. If only you got points for commenting on contests, right? Agreed, though. Good luck with your son.
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Actually, I'm sure you know you do...but I really don't give a damn about the points...I just wanted to make a point.
I have enough points anyway...thanks for responding.
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You truly have no idea the reasons for suicide do you? You speak like a child at the hostpital when his/her parents ask them to explain death and all they go on are what their older brother/sister gets angry at. those things you named are some of the fewest used to kill yourself. k, im done ranting. have fun with your grade D contest
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Ohh Trialeyes. I put a poem in here tho about when some kids thik they can't take it anymore and complain but never really do anything about it cept to ask for attention. That is what pisses me off is when they are just asking for attention and would never really do it. Love you sweety. And Kevin wrote another letter with poems and I will post them soon. He loves boot.
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So people who have been on the edge about to commit suicide for acctual reasons, cannot enter? lol I was on the brink of suicide before, not for petty little reasons though. I am on the brink of it now. so Can I enter?
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I'm sorry, but it has to be said... did you read shadowaelf's explanation whatsoever? Or did you just follow the earlier trend, jump on the bandwagon, and 'diss' a contest that you know nothing of?
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Okay, I feel it is necessary to comment now, because i did write a rather harsh poem about threatening suicide for attention. I have attempted suicide several times, never for the usual trivial reasons. I was in a serious depression for a while, and I am on medication that allows me to function as normally as possible now(I also have a terminal illness, and I don't expect pity for that-just stating a fact) I have sympathy for those who are truly depressed, but if you are, get some help, please.
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I totally understand what you're going through. God bless you, hope your situation gets better.
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Personally, I think those of us strong enough to end our own suffering are quite the powerful little people. Like you, I don't advocate suicide...but if you think it is the only, sometimes it is...
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What a TOTALLY AWESOME IDEA FOR A CONTEST!!!! I just submitted a PreWrite which I hope will do and fits in!
I am one of those who has had more than their fill of all these cutters and poems about suicide! YEEGAWDS!!!! The only suicide I will ever advocate for is when a person knows they are terminal and wishes to end it on their own terms with dignity...ie no massive pain killers, machines, hospice care and etc! As for other forms of suicide it's all BIG BS to me! I am sure we all have our stories and heartaches BUT if I could survive...
1. Being overweight all my life and being picked on
2. Being diagnosed with PCOS and Cancer Round 1 at 18
3. Being brutally raped and left for dead at 18
4. Being beaten and pistol whipped by my first husband who then held the gun to my head LOADED and COCKED and threatened to kill me!
5. Being told I had Cancer again Round 2
and again
6. Being told I had Cancer again Round 3!!!! Matter of fact just had the surgery to remove the tumors today and will not know if this time it is definitely malignant unlike the other two before which thankfully were benign until about a week from now!
...then anyone can survive! (Granted I left out what I consider the trivial stuff above and only included what I consider major!) If they say they can't and kill themselves and etc then to me they are nothing more than a quitter, a loser! I will not apologize either for being harsh. Our lives are indeed what we make it and if we choose to dwell in sorrow and pain then to live eternally in sorrow and pain is how our lives will be! There is ALWAYS a way if one is really willing to look! Grow Up folks! No one ever said life came easy and with guarantees!
~Nikki~
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You are corret abotu the pennsylvanian term, "yous" :-D just thought i'd tell you
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I'm totally lost. I thought the contest was against suicide and all the poems entered are about suicide or attempted suicide.
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Okay is this contest AGAINST suicide? Are we supposed to write a poem about how RETARDED it is? I'm a little UNCLEAR on this...lol Or are we supposed to write one about attempting to DIE? hmm Please get back to me on this..I want to enter if it is AGAINST suicide..
Much love
Bambie -
i don't care how unclear it is, good contest. Using poetry to try and make everyone else feel as whiny, superficial, and stupid as you are feeling at some given moment is a waste. And why is it that these are the exact same people who say "I don't care what anyone else thinks" and then pee all over themselves when somebody points out they don't know an iamb from a hole in the wall??? Personally, I think anyone who writes and shares suicide poetry should have to commit the act or be forced to read every other suicide poem ever written.
This goes for Sylvia Plath, too. (Oh, OK, one down...)
Brian -
When I said that I was UNCLEAR on this I wasn't being RUDE..sorry if you took it that way..I wanted to know EXACTLY what he wanted me to enter into this contest..That's all..I have a few idea's of what I am/was going to write..
I don't like reading the poetry that deals with cutting and suicide anymore than the next person does..but it happens..It's a BIG thing with teens these days..
My biggest question to ALL of this is ...
WHERE THE FUCK ARE THESE TEENS PARENTS?..
My earlier comment was NOT in any way rude..I just didn't want to enter something that he was NOT looking for is all..
Bambie -
My PreWrite entered here is NOT about/in favor of suicide and cutting! I've not looked yet at other entries but I'm hoping I entered correctly for I too understood this was supposed to be against suicide and cutting!
~Nikki~ -
Sorry Bambie, wasn't really applying to your note, did not consider your note rude, and apologize if my comment was taken as some sort of judgement on you.
I do think the objective for entries is unclear (though clearly opposed to suicide; does he want anti-suicide, humorous parodies, life-affirming verse, etc.?), I think it fully apropriate that you asked for clarification, and while my comments might be considered rude by those who wallow in suicide poems (it is actually rude to them, for which I am perhaps minorly apologetic), I certainly intended nothing untoward as regards to you.
Brian -
Look, all,
there are ways to write about such things IF...IF... one is doling out the truth, BUT...BUT, More Importantly, showing and showing by giving with the best attempts, possible why one should NOT! Interesting Contest, Indeed...but, you know, look at this, Oh, what passions aroused...
Let us not Judge some...just those who enter may Even have a way to make Don't Do It-- superficial, I realize, but, if written well, who knows...
Hmmm...my what Passions Aroused in this comment column, alone...
Oh, this is quite something ...
I, oh my and I've not read All of them just some, but whewwwwww...
Oh, Most Interesting and well, Obviously Provocative Contest, and yes, however, I too am a bit unclear, but...whewwwwwwww!
lol...Plath, Oh Windy, You are too much, but I will say this...
You are Honest!
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WOOO THIS CONTEST RULES I LOVE YOU.. NE BIATCH THAT SES IT SUCKS CAN KISS UR ASS!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Sorry, Michele, I do try to be nice, but every once and a while I slip the leash... Ms. Plath derves some respect, and as I mentioned somewhere before 2 of my favorite poets offed themselves (Pavese and Mayakovsky). But while I think that expressions of angst may be neccesary for the poet as a way to let off steam or work out there problems (and I would encourage those who feel the need to do so), it tends to make for poor poetry... Life is ugly and miserable, but it isn't only ugly and miserable. Just as people suffering depression have to learn to stop making universal statements about their problems, suicidal poets should learn to confront the beauty in life. The abnegation of that responsibility is (and here I am rude and uncompromising and being down right mean) cowardly.
Your own work is the counter-example. You acknowledge the difficulties in life in an honest and heart-breaking fashion, but the poems reach for more. They are life affirming, they strive and struggle, even while admitting fragility, fear, and pain.
I think many people have to write suicide poems of woe-is-me-and-all-is-lost as a means of release. I appreciate that need, but I will not condone it as public display, nor condone the emergence of a community of those who encourage it as an apropriate end point. You know my feelings about Harry Crosby... I don't believe it is right to encourage people to view suicide as an ultimate good. -
Brian,
Yes, that is along the lines of what I was attempting to say... no, it isn't mean, but, it is difficult, and I think that, especially among young people, though, not always, it may be their means of release, which does not mean one has to condone or like it, it would be nice to be able to help...but, we are not experts. I much agree with this...
" I don't believe it is right to encourage people to view suicide as an ultimate good. " Amen!
Now, Brian, yes, you do try to be nice and I see you even apologizing if you 'feel' you have been misunderstood as rude or misinterpreted, etc.
We will, on our own, never prevent all who do such things, all who attempt, say, suicide ... sure we can offer hope from our hearts, but when one is that low, therapy is needed, I think...
This topic simply seems to make for Passionate Eruptions and for some misunderstandings and for tension, but, that is not surprising...
You expressed better than I, what I was gettting at, but, I would add, it may require at times a special touch with some, we are all and each unique and we just don't always Know what someone is thinking/feeling,etc. Also, we cannot control the public display, you see...if people choose or feel a need to post such pieces, it is their right, Bri, at least, here, as it is Public and Open, but...one has a choice whether to read and comment or whatever...see?
I don't think that you are mean, I do worry about those who do need to write these pieces, but, I'd rather have them writing than harming themselves, see?
Thank You for your most kind remarks on my work and we don't really much disagree, here...
It, for me, is hard, as when reading such works, I may worry about the person, you know?
I feel badly when That happens as I may not know what to do and may not even be able to comment or...whatever, all I was saying was that this is such a very difficult topic, and I think you will find it on many writing sites, but...
no, not mean, Brian, as I said, you are honest.
Sometimes that can hurt others, but how are we to know who and when...?
You have a very, very good point, and perhaps a site, devoted to such works, run by, say, Professionals, i.e. Physcologists, Physciatrists...?
I don't have the answer, my friend, but... yes, and the hurting need to learn, somehow, but we, well, how can we help...I can try as I have known these pains, etc...but, still am not qualified, thus, at a loss, here...
All I am saying, or was, was that this really seemed to be one page full of Passions running high and I thank you , Bri...
Would that more could see that way, but we all are only who we are and so... well, what can we do?
Thanks Brian, I know your feelings on this and I wish that those less in tune with such 'life affirming' thoughts would get help and somehow find their way, and if writing it out helps, so be it, but...It is, for me, also, all rather sad and I wish there was more hope running through many people, and so...that is all I can say, hope, wish, pray, whatever...that the most desperate can find a way toward better and far healthier times...
Okay, sorry, I tend to ramble, but I wish you all well and again, Brian, mean? No...
Passionate about all this, yes!
And again, Honest...
Thanks,
mich
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okay well, this is an interesting contest and all and i most likely could write something about how stupid a lot of people are to throw good lives away because their parents gave the a curfew, or their bf/gf broke up with them or stupid shit like that... but i do cut and i am suicidal... i even have someone who gets paid to talk to people for a living that volenteered to talk to me for free (how is that of him) so basicly i have to call and talk to him when i'm pissed of and hate everything and my life is going to hell... (wait thats most of the time) and i dont mean over the stupid little shit either i mean i have serious emotional scaring and a chemical emblance in my brain that makes me this way... i cant help it... but those who kill them self for stupid reason dont and (if they dont succeed) they get appointments with mental doctors sooner then the people who have problems... i mean i was seriously thinking about killing myself and i had everything planed out and shit and i called to get an appointment with a doctor to get help and they told me they didnt have anything open for the next 2 months and their isn't that many people who are actully having problems and i told them it was urgent and they said the best they could do was 2 months later... i mean wouldnt they feel bad if i would have not found the guy who volenteers his time to help me and killed myself... then wouldnt they relise while they are helping all of the stupid teens that hate their parents or just got dumped they could be helping someone that needs help... i mean come on every teen hates their parents its almost manditory... srry i just dont like people who kill themselves and cut and do stupid shit like that and have stupid reasons behind it...
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drugs are bad
"youse" is the best word ever....PITTSBURGH PA!!!! go steelers!!! -
Candi22:
I quite agree. I'm not sure where people think this contest should go, but it's definantally not the place I wanted it to be. -
bambie k2004:
I'm not clear as to why you find it unclear. It is against suicide, but not all suicide. Against suicide for stupid reasons. Make sense? It should have in the first place.... -
windhover3:
The poetry entries can be any style, any direction you want, as long as they're about suicide/cutting and they're against it. I didn't want to get too specific; I wanted a variety. -
Well, I am sorry that I ASKED about your contest...You do know that when you HOLD a contest you should be there to answer ANY and ALL questions..It's not like I was being RUDE in ANY way..
Bambie -
Good luck judging the contest. Some great work was entered here.
Hugs and bites, Lady Raven -
Why do you write in caps?
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I am sooo sorry, but I had to share this. Just heard it on the radio.
Artist : Queen
Song : Dont Try Suicide
Ok
Don't do it Don't you try it baby
Don't do that Don't Don't Don't
Don't do that
You got a good thing going now
Don't do it Don't do it
Don't
Don't try suicide
Nobody's worth it
Don't try suicide
Nobody cares
Don't try suicide
Just gonna hate it
Don't try suicide
Nobody gives a damn
So you think it's the easy way out
Think you're gonna slash your wrists
This time
Baby when you do it all you do is
Get on my tits
Don't do that try try try baby
Don't do that - you got a good thing going now
Don't do it Don't do it - Don't
Chorus
You need help
Look at yourself you need help
You need life
So don't hang yourself
It's o.k. o.k. o.k. o.k.
You just can't be a prick teaser all of the time
A little bit attention - you got it
Need some affection - you got it
Suicide suicide suicide bid
Suicide suicide sucide bid
Suicide
Don't do it Don't do it Don't do it babe
Don't do it Don't do it Don't-do it
Don't put your neck on the line
Don't drown on me babe
Blow your brains out -
Don't do that - yeah
Chorus
Nobody gives - nobody gives
Nobody gives a damn -
Congrats to all the winning entries!
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Thank you for the bronze trophy
Kat xxx -
Thank you very much for the trophy and points!
I appreciate it.
An excellent idea for a contest!
Thanks again. -
Huh, I don't think I remember hearing that Queen song- ever. I had a couple of their tapes though. Pretty cool it got on the radio though. Anyways, congratulations to the winners. I'm glad a bunch of people finally understood what you wanted- poems against self injury and suicide that discourage doing it JUST FOR ATTENTION. Such as the majority of deadjournal bloggers (erm, I mean LiveJournal). Don't shoot me, I'm on there too. I just don't do it for attention. My ex does though. Feel free to harass the bastard (his user name is cicero_ Yes with the underscore).
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