I just saw a contest about abortion, and it was for those who take the stance of pro-life. Howver, I found myself irrevocably offeneded when my stance was referred to as pro-murder. That contest was taking poems about being pro-choice.
That being said:
I WANT POEMS ABOUT WHY IT IS OKAY TO HAVE AN ABORTION.
Members of my family have had them, and two of my friends have. I feel very strongly about this.
I think that abortions are fine, just if a woman wants to get one. It is a woman's prerogative to have an abortion OR a baby. It's her life. even if it is just some accident pregnancy from a fling, I still think abortion is okay. I really believe that it is a choice, a decision, not something you MUST or MUST NOT do.
OPTIONS:
1) Why are you pro-choice?
2) Why is the pro-choice stance useful for women?
3) Why would you get an abortion?
4) Why are you pro-life? (only 3 entries accepted with this option)
5) Why is the pro-life stance useful to women? (only 2 entries accepted with this option)
6) Abortion can be a mercy to the child. Explain.
RULES: OBEY OR BE DQ'D
1) spell check
2) You are forbidden to use the phrase "pro-murder," "babykiller," etc, or anything along those lines in referring to being pro-choice.
NOTE:
I'm allowing a few poems as pro-life because I am not against pregnancy, and I would like to see if any poets out there are good enough to make me rethink my position.
SECOND NOTE: Don't comment on my contest just to bash me people. If you MUST say something snotty to me, just message me. I enjoy a good tussle, and I'm too lazy to put people on my ignore list or report them. However, to bash me in a message, one must have good spelling and grammar, and make a valid point. Thank you.
That being said:
I WANT POEMS ABOUT WHY IT IS OKAY TO HAVE AN ABORTION.
Members of my family have had them, and two of my friends have. I feel very strongly about this.
I think that abortions are fine, just if a woman wants to get one. It is a woman's prerogative to have an abortion OR a baby. It's her life. even if it is just some accident pregnancy from a fling, I still think abortion is okay. I really believe that it is a choice, a decision, not something you MUST or MUST NOT do.
OPTIONS:
1) Why are you pro-choice?
2) Why is the pro-choice stance useful for women?
3) Why would you get an abortion?
4) Why are you pro-life? (only 3 entries accepted with this option)
5) Why is the pro-life stance useful to women? (only 2 entries accepted with this option)
6) Abortion can be a mercy to the child. Explain.
RULES: OBEY OR BE DQ'D
1) spell check
2) You are forbidden to use the phrase "pro-murder," "babykiller," etc, or anything along those lines in referring to being pro-choice.
NOTE:
I'm allowing a few poems as pro-life because I am not against pregnancy, and I would like to see if any poets out there are good enough to make me rethink my position.
SECOND NOTE: Don't comment on my contest just to bash me people. If you MUST say something snotty to me, just message me. I enjoy a good tussle, and I'm too lazy to put people on my ignore list or report them. However, to bash me in a message, one must have good spelling and grammar, and make a valid point. Thank you.
Contest is Over
- Contest was judged on November 10, 2007
- Rewards: Gold: 300, Silver: 100, Bronze: 50, Honorable mention: 2 people
- Final notes: The Gold, Silver, and Bronze winners won for their use of clever sarcasm, rhetoric, and anger filled writes. All three made excellent points, and I think more than one "pro-lifer" has misinterpreted them, as usual.
Poor Mathias got to me because of the circumstances, so I felt compelled to add an HM, and then another for Rachel Sophie.
Normally, I try to get a well-rounded list of winners....but I couldn't. The pro-choice poems blew all the others away, with one or two exceptions. Poor Mathias is one of those exceptions.
I am sorry if any of you disagree with my winners, but my top three choices were EXCELLENT.
I know the contest originally had options....yeah....most of you didn't do the options. And broke the rules. SO I threw all that crap out the window and judged how I liked, since only about 4 people followed the rules.
Contest Winners
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by Edna Sweetlove 15 lines, 46 comments, on Dec 21 5:24 PM 2005. In Adult humour, Society
Silver trophy winner
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Not in my bed was he conceived Nor with coarse words could she deceive• Commented on by judge. [remove]
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Unemployed. Living at home.
Newly divorced. Sex was• Commented on by judge. [remove]
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Does She Tell Me
Does she tell me not to get tattoos?by LarryATilander 5 lines, 7 comments, on Apr 30 1:28 PM 2006. In Society• Viewed by judge. Prewrite -
A hardened man of forty
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What you put in your body / no business of mine / I live with my choices / You have to live with your choices / no business of mine / what you take out of your body / no business of mine /• Commented on by judge. Prewrite
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You say abortion is murder, but that is not always the truth
I had had two children, A third was on its wayby trace3grls 17 lines, 5 comments, on Nov 7 4:09 PM 2007• Viewed by judge. Prewrite
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thank you so much for having this contest.i saw that other one that made pro life people look terrible,and made abortion look like pure murder despite even exceptional cases (such as rape babies).i am pro choice for so many reasons its stupid.thank you for bringing out the other side.
unfortunately i am not entering since i am a very specific writer (i write love metal (gothic emotional metal) songs for my band only really).but i am going to encourage others to enter
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You fall into the trap laid by the anti-abortionists who enjoy forcing women to have babies they do not want by calling them "pro-life"; they are anti-life. You should ALWAYS call these people "anti-women" or "fascists". Or both.
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Hmmmm.....true. But saying anti-woman will get me too much bashing, plus I might get reported and my contest deleted. I'll go through that trouble later, amybe, but not right now.
But you are so right. Thanks for the tip, E.
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ITS NOT OKAY !!! ITS MURDER
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You didn't read my contest, you silly. I said bashing was to be messaged to me. Do bother to pay attnetion.
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Oceanbreezes, you believe in God yeah? How can you be against abortion? The following passages are God's word from the bible;
Yea, though they bring forth, yet will I slay even the beloved fruit of their womb. -- Hosea 9:16
Tamar thy daughter in law hath played the harlot; and also, behold, she is with child by whoredom. And Judah said, Bring her forth, and let her be burnt. -- Genesis 38:24
Samaria shall become desolate; for she hath rebelled against her God: they shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up. -- Hosea 13:16
Not only that but the bible tells us to live by the law of our chosen governments;
“Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which god has established. The authorities that exist have been established by god. Consequently, he who rebels against the authority is rebelling against what god has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and he shall commend you. For he is god’s servant to do you good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword for nothing. He is god’s servant, an agent of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. There fore it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also because of conscience.
This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are god’s servants, who give their full time to governing. Give everyone what you owe him: If you owe taxes, pay taxes, if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor.”
The above being from Romans 13: 1-7
So if it is legal on your planet to have abortions you are going AGAINST God's will by being against it.
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hmmm.
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That's pretty funny because most people who are PRO LIFE...
always say "BUT".
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Well, in most countries they say that you can interpret the bible any way that you wish to.
You don't have to base your life off of a book unless you want to.
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It is okay. Have you heard of freedom of choice?
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i agree with oceanbreezes it is murder!
but then again this isnt a perfect world so i guess people get away with murder these days! -
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Just like ocean you did not read my contest did you? I said bashing was to be messaged to me. Again, pay attention.
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Oh wow! Another sheep, who really has no argument to back up her reasons, you just claim its murder.
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I agree with you too. it is murder.
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There are always options.... such as adoption or other things, i just don't see abortion as nessesary. I understand why people do it, because they are scared, no money, rape baby, ect. but I don't agree with it, like i said... so many other alternatives.
If it was a mistake to get pregnant the person should be able to live with that mistake not try to cover it. If something has life, and that life is taken away from it... Is it not being killed? -
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Thank you cate
Thank you for being civil to me in your comments. i appreciate you trying to debate the issue intellectually and not bash me like the above people (exception Lady Nightshade).
I don't view a fetus as alive though, so I do not see it as murder. A huge debate right now in biological science and also religion is at what point is a conceived thing alive. MOst relgious people believe it is at the exact moment of sperm and egg union. However, I am of the belief that it is not alive until it can truly think.
Even a dog can think. Even an ant, albeit a tiny, inconceptual thought. But a developing piece of flesh? I just don't see it. So I am in favor of abortion. I favor the life already being lived than one that could happen.
But you make a good point about living with one's mistakes. That made me think. I suppose my stance does provide shelter for the irresponsible....butI think even the irresponsible should at least have the option to be happy too.
Again, cate, thank you for being civil and making me think about my stance.
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"until it can truly think"
I understand your point here: however, I'm not sure how you define "thinking." Can you prove that an ant thinks? Can you prove that a fetus doesn't? Scans of developing fetuses (I'm sorry, I don't know what the actual plural of that word is!) show brain wave activity, certainly as much activity as an insect.
Also, one could make a point that the debate is not over whether a fetus is USEFUL life; it can be pretty much agreed that it isn't. But neither, strictly speaking, is the life of a young child already born. Cognitive ability--and even conciousness--have little to do with the definition of life; the question is whether a fetus is alive (biologically speaking), and if so, whether something more is required before "killing" (for want of a better term) it is permitted.
Good for you for considering the other side's argument; I think it would be great if both sides of this debate could follow your example. ;-)
Nice contest idea!
~Bitter Irony
P.S. More on that thinking thing...so would it be okay to kill a jellyfish? :-) Nah, I'm just kidding here. It's something that always occurs to me when someone brings up the "thinking" argument.
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do you consider abortion to be a mistake? because, by your deffinition, people should live with their mistakes... it's the body of the woman who chooses, who are we to say anything at all... if ever it's your turn to choose, i doubt my input would say your decision one way or the other... (sorry late response, just read this... though i must say, yours was the most eloquently stated side of the argument i heard on this whol page...)
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Can you link me to the so called 'pro-life' contest please?
I myself was thinking of doing a contest just like this just the other day! -
Michael and other associates like Edna and also you and daydreamercate was very interesting. (Forgive me with my grammar). This issue is a serious one and need to be discussed over and over again.
Your contest was unique. But unfortunately I have no courage to join for my knowledge is not enough, I'm in the learning era now.
Let me share my little knowledge:
For my side, I'm not with abortion.
I think there are many things need to be reconsider before going to that case (abortion).
1. I know there is a biological side effect to a woman who got her self to abortion.
2. In some cases some girls have no self discipline, if they had only that personality she could avoid having unwanted pregnacy.
But on the second thought I also analyzing issues of considering abortion as a choice:
I know a family in our place that have this problem, the father was ask to choose of letting the child in her wifes womb to live and gamble the life of his wife or choose the opposite. Well the father choose his wife.
This is an example of an issue considering abortion.
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yay! thank you for this contest i am pro-chioce and recently have been through it. i don't regret a thing and am still pro-choice!
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Hard to pick which one to enter
Goodluck with contest.
I have held a few in my time
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I am running a contest at http://allpoetry.com/contest/2375494 for abortion-related poetry. If anyone is interested. I will be accepting poetry from any viewpoint.
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Both sides should be heard. Thank you for evening up the playing field. Personally, I don't think there is enough space for me to add my experiences. I have a child, have had an abortion, and have placed a child for adoption. I've got all bases covered. I'll be interested to see others thoughts are on this most touchy of subjects.
jill
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seriously... i'm not gonna enter, it's not my style of write... but THANK YOU for posting this contest! I can't imagine why on earth someone would have a pro-life (pro-ignorance) contest... probably got a bunch of psuedo-bible babel writes... this on the other hand is a way more intelligent way to do the contest... this way you can have a more open round of reads... good call my friend!!!
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that's perfectly fine that you are not going to enter--I am simply glad to see another person suppoting this contest instead of bashing it.
And I did open up the contest to the ah...call them pro-life (lest they report poor lil old me)because it is not fair to slant important issues that you have a genuine opinion on in your own favor. To validate your own opinions, you need to see why your beliefs are that way.
Surprisingly, did not get so many God write ups about this. More aboriton poems from the babies point of view. I suppose they are trying to appeal to my humanity. Unfortunately, they did it the wrong way, as I am not too concerned about a life unlived than I am about the life a woman has to continue living.
Well, thank you for your comment, it cheered me up quite a lot after a recent hail of flames messaged to me by one abba12. Twas fun battling wits with that user though. Shame she gave up.
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i have the same view. If somebody wanted to get an abortion, it would be their choice. I understand that everyone has there views but i dnt think you can really understand it untill your in that situation.
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ok i heard on here that people that have never had the problem to have an abortion really shouldn't have the right to say it,well i have been in that position and i choose life.
im not saying anybody is wrong this is my opinion and will remain just that,i do believe there are some times when the woman HAS to have an aortion but havening one because a person went out and slept with the wrong person without protection or whatever is morally wrong!!
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I see you have decided to be civil, unlike above.
Can you clarify something from me? Either abortion is murder and you are against it, or you have decided to tolerate abortion in rare circumstances. Make up your mind, please.
It probably is immoral to have abortions if you slept around. But I am not a Christian, I have no religion. I make my own moral compass, and I will always believe you can't penalize someone for a night of innocent fun. (Innocent meaning that you meant no harm and so on)
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hmmm...
Let's see... a woman chooses not to take birth control pill. a woman chooses to have sex. a woman chooses not to use a condom. sounds like a lot of personal choices.
A woman doesn't choose to be raped and doesn't choose to be impregnated by that rape. She has a choice now because she holds the power to herself.
I believe that if a fetus can live outside the body of the mother, an abortion shouldn't happen. That is MY opinion.
I believe if i were to get pregnant right now, it is my CHOICE to maintain or end the pregnancy - NOT a man in washington's choice.
there is ALWAYS a choice - you may not like the options to choose from, but there is ALWAYS a choice.
**steps down off platform**
If I could put this into a poem without it sounding like a rant, I'd do it...
But my opinion is my opinion, and it's not going to change anyone elses. I WILL listen to others' opinions - as long as they're not screaming in my face - sit back, listen to my side and i'll listen to your side - most likely our opinions will not change - but at least respect me (and yourself) enough to admit there are others that believe differently.
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I do respect others opinions. If you noticed, I allowed options for the pro-lifers.
If the fetus can live outside the mother without being on a bunch of oxygen and whatever, an abortion is sort of pointless. If a woman want to have one, she does risk herself, becasue that's the highest area of mortality.
Oh, we're all on a platform here, you don't need to step off. I never do.
Anyways, the line here:
I believe if i were to get pregnant right now, it is my CHOICE to maintain or end the pregnancy - NOT a man in washington's choice.
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MUAAAH! I may have to put you on my favorites
MUAAAAAH!!!
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some people should read my poem from both sides as it was written for the other competition but it got deleted so before people judge no the facts before they judge.........................
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Well, I am the judge, and I will read all the poems, and comment too, after my exam today for Japanese 101.
It was written for the other competition? And deleted? Hmmm...
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