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General Allpoetry Position:
Allpoetry will try to be as flexible as possible. We have many categories
to post Poetry as well as Images (and the combination). It is the position
of Allpoetry to accept as much as possible. There are some restrictions
though where the boundries are firm.
Please read the following disclaimer:
"Some Images may get through the scrutiny of the moderators for whatever
reason. Those are exceptions and do not imply a change of these
guidelines. Too many times community members say "well I've seen this
plenty of times". That, to Allpoetry, is really irrelevant. Those are
simply errors and are not meant to set precedence or change Allpoetry
posting guidelines. IE: Just because a police officer doesn't pull over a
speeding motorist, doesn't imply the speed limit has changed."
Detailed Allpoetry Guide is as follows:
graphic pornography - NO
sex- simulated or real - NO
NO genitals in a sexual act can be viewable etc.
nudity- nudity is OK. This has been re-thought and some more flexibility is now
available. Museums have lots of nudity.... master's paintings etc. That
kind of art is all ok. This includes genitalia (Michelangelo style etc). This does not include photographs/images of aroused genitalia etc. or adult magazine style images of female/male genitalia. More subtle nudity can go general audience and more obvious nudity should be classified "adult". We will be very flexible in the "adult category". That's what the adult category is for. Allpoetry retains the right to decline any and all images.
cutting/self harm/bloody razor blades/mutilation- NO
dead bodies-NO (except War Images... for the sake of history)
dead babies-NO
destruction of babies or their sacrifice etc. (knife overhead of them to sacrifice)-NO
dead animals or their sacrafice-NO
graphic self destruction and suicide acts-NO
ghoul and gore-OK
blood from vampires, their eyes, mouths etc.-OK (video games are worse)
Unusually disturbing images as determined by a moderator.
Images of marijuana-OK (not to sell it)
Images of needles in arm-NO (IE: drug use etc.)
"Advertising" of Drugs or ANYTHING else ILLEGAL-NO
AUTHOR PAGES - remain "G" to "PG" rated. This goes for image content as well as language content. A few curse words here and there is ok. However, a string of really foul words will need to be placed in the adult category and not the author page. Images of nipples are not within a these ratings as per Kevin and therefore cannot be placed in public view on your author page.
POETRY - A few curse words are fine (depending on the ones). Anything that becomes too graphic will be categorized as Adult.
Moderators will have the final say in the end. The Allpoetry site is a private site that retains final say in all matters. Calling moderators names and/or arguing with them etc. isn't going to make the site better or help you get "your way". Most times, they are simply telling the community what they must. If you have a problem with the rules, please post it on the Policy Board.
We have broadened Allpoetry's guidelines to the most liberal position we possibly can. Please respect this and do not push the limits beyond what we have now reached.
It will take some time for the moderators and community to begin to remember and understand these broader guidelines. So when there is an encounter between a moderator and a community member, both parties should remain professional and courteous.
FINALLY, ALLPOETRY RETAINS THE RIGHT TO ACCEPT OR DECLINE THE POSTING OF ANY AND ALL IMAGES.
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Kevin
Site Manager
Annd
Site Supervisor
Former Staff
Don (haikumonk), Suzi (mystysaint)
Site Supervisors
Allpoetry means for the sake of this document the owner(s), volunteer staff or any other members that may be placed in the position of approving or disapproving images for the site Allpoetry.com.
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Images of marijuana-OK (not to sell it)
that is funny...who would do that?
We have broadened Allpoetry's guidelines to the most liberal position we possibly can.
WHY LIBERAL????? ohh why?
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I have recently TICKETED a contest that posted numerous images saved directly from deviantart [that were NOT credited] and was told that it's not up to the site to manage this - but the individual that posts them. As an artist - whether be a poet, painter or photographer - I find this rude. I think image credit should be a must and that you need to crack down on it. Just because this is a poetry site - I still find plagiarism of visual art offensive and rude.
As the moderators failed to lend a hand - I traced every single picture back to the artist and made them aware of the posting on THIS SITE and let them deal with it the way they want.
I didn't want to but AP left me no choice.
I ask that the rules about stealing someone elses art - even though it is not poetry, but re-considered. As if not, I will try let know all the artists now when I catch this happening.
And you will have some artists very annoyed and perhaps a lot complaining about AP else where as well as here.
Thank you.
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I so very much agree with you! To steal any creative art is unnecessary and cruel. I will also look out for this from now on. Amber x x x
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Hi,
Thanks for your great note and absolute sincerity behind it. I agree with you completely. As I have taken a break from being site supervisor, I think it would be more effective for you to contact Annd, the current site supervisor directly. She will definitely handle this problem as allpoetry does not allow plagiarism (as I recall). Her author page is here: http://allpoetry.com/user/show/Annd
Take care and if I can be of further help, please let me know....
Don
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I am glad that I read this, it clears up some questions that I have been having. this is very informative. thank you for posting this. I think that this is very important and it should be viewed & read by everyone.
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wow ...this is old. It should probably be updated to the more current site staff at the very least...
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LOLL... it sure is. I've asked them if they want any changes and Ann said no... that it is still current policy. Possibly, I could re-write it better or something but they don't want the policies changed from what they are here.
I think that all the manuals etc that we wrote are still being used. That means we did a pretty good job. 
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for further notes on my poems or contests this is bookmarked.
Thank you and I am sorry for any rules I have broken.
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Fair and sensible rules for us all to stick by
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Thanks... appreciate your feedback.
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thanks
I have no problem with these rules either
Susan~~~
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Hi Susan,
Thanks!
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Thank you for this clarification
I have no problem with these rules.
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You're welcome. I appreciate your support.
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I can't find anything in here about no nipples and think it really stinks that there's nothing in here about supporting artists whose images you use by crediting them. With all the creative commons licencing now available on the web, which allows you to use the image AS LONG AS YOU GIVE CREDIT, AP really ought to enforce this and start supporting art and artists. Even if something is copyrighted and states that you must have permission to use the image, I can vouch for the fact that it's not that hard to get if you just take the time to email the artist. As someone who has published two books where I have done that, I can say it's well worth the "trouble" of getting to know the artist. Sure, there are some who say no, or want payment - there are way more who are happy to comply, AS LONG AS CREDIT IS GIVEN.
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THANK U!!!!!
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Though I'm no longer Site Supervisor I'll offer the courtesy of responding to your comment. The following applies:
"author pages - remain "G" rated."
Kevin, as I learned through numerous conversations with him at the time this was written by the "three of us" considers nipples on a woman NOT to be G rated.
This guide is written in regards to "style" and "content" of image and has nothing to do with law in terms of copyright etc.
If you're interested in that aspect of the images posted on this site, you should contact Annd and chat with her. As I recall, there are indeed comments about just his thing in site "policies" and she can cover that info with you personally.
This is an "image guide" specifically. Nothing more: nothing less. Other than your first sentence, nothing in the rest of your commnet was ever intended to be covered in this particular guide.
Please check with Annd or site policies to research your other concerns.
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Thank you, Don. I was directed to this page from the policy forum regarding the banning of Ariosto's nude paintings on his author page. Whoever posted your link made the mistake of saying that the nipple rule was in here (which it is not and which has now been addressed by AnnD in the forum.) Sorry for any confusion.
As far as image posting goes, it just makes sense to me that anyone writing anything about what images are allowed on this site would mention that concern - that you must credit the artist. It is a terrible disservice to both readers and the artists themselves not to.
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This is what is in Allpoetry Policies:
"You Cannot
1. Plagiarize works, claiming them as your own. This results in an immediate 1 week ban
2. Post works that are not your own, even when you credit them. On User pages, this is only enforced by complaint.
3. Public-domain foreign-language works that you have translated are considered your own. Credit should be given to the author at the top of the poem."
Moderators do enforce this as they come across it. Keep in mind, moderators are trained NOT to go out looking for problems. They are supposed to operate based on "tickets" or "referrals". So, often someone plagarizes but it isn't seen by anyone in authority immediately. But, when it comes up, it is dealt with according to existing site policy.
As for this guide... it is meant to be a guide regarding content and not regarding the law in terms of ownership, copyright or other legal issues. This is simply the Image Guide (Content).
As for the nipple rule: it comes under the "G" rating aspect of this guide. It's Kevin's definition of "G" rating. No one can change that definition but him.
Take care and have a great day.
Don
Past Tense Site Supervisor (hahahaaa)
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Thank you for this article. I passed a boundry just a moment ago and was warned which I am glad. I did not realize it went over the limits in adult content. I am glad they sent me this link so I will not repeat my offense. I am very fond of this site and wish to remain in good graces.
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Nude 'face' images and children, not a good mix!
Well I have read the site policies about images. This must be a difficult thing to police in trying to be fair.
I still think AP is wrong to allow people to use nudity as a 'face' image where small children are involved.
That said, I am grateful for the protection offered by filters provided. Having read all the prohibitions it seems as well as gifted people there are a lot of 'sick' people looking to post material here also.
Appreciate what has been done to make the site enjoyable. Jadon -
im pretty sure that at some point in time i really enjoyed this site and found it to be a breath of fresh air.at this point in time im not sure i can remember exactly why as it seems pretty much no matter what i do or say some cry baby goes crying to big brother and im constantly censored.admittedly i can at times be out of sorts as can the comments i recieve though i tend to have myself a good laugh at said "offensive" comments rather than go crying to mommy about them.its not yours mine or anyone elses job to protect anyone from "inappropriate content" which to me is something non-existant unless you want to throw in any anti-bush./america/whatever crap pulled from the headlines that the sheep of the world too brainwashed by the criminal liberal media to have any idea what to think other than what theyre told tend to revolve around and knowing now that this is a private site makes it all the more criminal and at this point ive pretty much lost my train of thought so ill just say that somebody needs to start a site thats free of censorship under any circumstances as is the cross to be bared by true artists of any type and open the gates of freedom.and before you go getting all butt hurt because i dared speak my feelings and threaten me with being kicked off the site yet again for no real reason sit your ass down drink a beer and relax.lifes not so bad.anything i do including speaking my mind here even if in frustration is done with a sense of humor though in type its not always as noticeable it is there.just as i can giggle and smile at what ive just written you should also at reading it.
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why is blood from vampires etc. allowed, yet bloody razors which may help the reader understand what the poem is about if the writer doesn't want to directly say THIS IS ABOUT CUTTING. ? As long as it is marked "adult" I think it should be allowed..
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You know I can see this and understand a bit more clearly now.. But how is it that you all are so careful over pictures and yet rape or poetry about rape is still allowed? Just curious, don't lop off my head honest question, Take Care Catressa
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An excellent and clearcut informative article to me. We're given a lot of freedom as to what we post here, and the few restrictions are important to the respectability and participation we attempt to old.
Just about everything that I feel or have an opinion on has been covered in the comments so I'll try not to be redundent...suffice to say that Kevin owns the site and has endevered to offer each of us a respectable and enjoyable place for poets of all ages and inclinations to post and read the work of some fine and not so fine writers.
We need to show the consideration and respect which is deserved. After all.. if we opened up our back yards for all the neighborhood kids to play in and enjoy, would we accept disrespect of each other, or of our property??? Would we condone disturbing acts of sex or violence?! I think not... not much difference, is there ?!
A good article, good policies
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As Allpoetry still remains a family oriented site and also a privately owned site, decisions not to allow photos of atrocities have been made. It has nothing to do with censorship any more than not being allowed to cus in church to court. It's simply the rules of this site.
I removed all my graphic war photos as well (regardless of who the images were of) when Kevin, the site owner, passed this decision. It didn't really bother me as it was his decision and I respect that.
I believe it states here rather clearly that war images that incidentally include bodies are ok to post. Allpoetry is not interested in having the more graphic ones posted though, in particular those of dead children. That is not the audience we are trying to appeal to. (Nor do we want children here inadvertantly exposed to those).
As for media... I think they are often completely irresponsible in what they show..... for shock value and ratings.
Don
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Are pictures of war dead actually allowed?
Any picture of war dead which happens to be disturbing is banned.
I would like to know, what kind of picture of war dead is NOT disturbing?
I tried to use a picture showing the results of Rwandan genocide. The picture did not show closeups of anyone. You would not be able to identify anyone. The bodies were neatly piled at the side of the road.
We are most disturbed by those photo's which show proof of our own crimes. And the world ignored Rwanda. Now we are so disturbed we censor it.
I have posted a presumably non-disturbing version of the picture. on my poem now. But I just wanted to voice my opinion that these guidelines are falacious. Moderators still interpret them to mean... BAN WHAT I DONT LIKE.
I spend money on AP. But I will be reconsidering it in the future.
Perhaps pictures of dead Jews is less disturbing?
How about dead chinese victims?
Are the only acceptable pictures, pictures of dead americans?
I am not protesting this policy page. I am protesting the interpretation and censorship of perfectly legal pictures which one could and DOES see on the evening news.
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As a new mod, I really do appreciate the detail of this. I already tried to look through images and jumped too quickly. This is very good information for all, especially mods. I'm honored to have been chosen, and I appreciate that you are so thorough with your details. Hugs, Patricia
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Hi! I am new here and slowly learning my way around the site. First reason for my post here is that I found a typo in the rules.
"both parties should remain professonal and courteous."
- you need to add an 'i' in professional.
I did have a question about images that brought me to this page. I use my own artwork here, that I loaded last night and today. I want to know about how I can give the info that the image will be with nudity. It goes with a poem I wrote a long time ago and the drawing/inked is very dear to me. It contains some nudity and I am looking for a way of rating it. I don't see any check-box to say it is for, let's say, 18+. I read the above text in full, but all I can understand is that once loaded, someone will immediately or soon check it out and put restrictions on it?
I am just a bit confused on this matter.
As I read the faqs and these rules here as well as the visible posts above, I realized that my poems and artwork are probably accessible to all public from the net. Is that the case? I would like to be able to put access restrictions on my work.
I just want to let it known that to me, imagery goes hand-in-hand with writing. I express myself in both. My poems inspire images and my artwork can inspire poetic imagery.
Thank you for reading my comment and for responding if possible.
ps orgot to ask; can we use animated images? I have some I made myself... and I also have my collection of emoticons and was wondering if you have some coding that can insert an emoticon of mine in my comments.
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Welcome aboard Agony.... hope you enjoy our site!
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skitza.... because the rules were so much less lenient before.... and members are happy that we changed them....
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Being a new member I find reading this very informative, at least now I know what I can and cannot post.
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I don't get it. Why has this got so many applauses? It's annoying!
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Perfect
Thank you for writing this and for making this a wonderful place to be
Great job!!
This is perfect
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When my roommate bought me my first month's membership here as an UMBER, remember those days , wasn't too long ago since this is my 11th month on here as a member, I was happy that I could place backgrounds and pictures to ENHANCE the words that entered onto the page. I am not one for graphically depicted pictures on any subject, as Haikumonk will attest to as he watched one night while I changed the picture ten times on one page and got a laugh at some of the images I posting and then deleting (especially the tree one ( ), and it was left in my discretion as the author which one best suited my poem and he IMed me about it.
When I choose a photo and a background I want it to be subtle to the words I have written and I aim to keep this philosophy all the time. What came out was the positiveness of the moderators stating through an IM that they have categorized it for me, (although I personally do that myself if it is adult content), but it pleases me that this is being monitored so that if I do accidentally post a picture that would be offensive, I would be notified. I do not get upset about it, I look at the photo for the clue as to what is offensive and then understand.
Now I come across this article and I happy that I have, for now I KNOW the rules of posting pictures and will be careful in what I choose, just to have the freedom to find the right picture and posting it is fair enough for me as a paying member now.
Thank you Don for writing this and allowing us some freedom in what we choose to enhance our words, anything that you mark offensive through an IM to my works warrants me to look at it again from outside my box, yet I still have not received one of these IMs from the moderators yet, and I hope I never do, knowing that my judgement in choosing them is good enough for the site's rules.
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As a member of AP for over 2 1/2 years - a staff member for most of that time - reading this is like a breath of fresh air for me.
There are rules in just about every aspect of our lives, the majority of them are for logical reasons.
What is so damn hard to understand about all of this. I am not targeting anyone who has posted here, but can anyone tell me why people come to Allpoetry expecting to get away with bending/breaking rules which help and maintain the pleasure of being here in the first place. The safe atmosphere that is maintained to a huge degree by volunteer staff is a wonderful aspect of this site whereby poets of the future can come here as kids and hopefully hone their talents to be a major contributor one day. How many caring parents would allow their children to have access without these rules in place? I'm sure I wouldn't!
I applaud the commitment to seek out and remove unsuitable images, language and disgusting, unsocial behaviour from AP's pages, this is a good beginning.
It is plainly stated and has been for a very long time that Images are secondary to poetry and that's the way it should be on a Poetry site.
If people cannot or will not accept the ruling and realise that they will never change to suit the individual then I'm sure there are other sites they can spend their time.
Don if I may add too that some Websites on author pages that have been brought to Mods attention by myself over the years lead to offensive images, (and other unsavoury topics) which had, resulted in the website being deleted too.
I am not a prude as some people may have been led to believe during my time on site but a follower of rules, rules set by the owner, Kevin with input no doubt from other like-minded people. Rules, that, if were not in place Kevin would have lost control of HIS property a long time ago, rules that would be eaten away by a cancer, derided, divided into non-existence.
Vonnie~
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thanks Myogreatbaldfriend.... that's what I keep trying to tell the poets here myself. This is an incredible site with excellent flexibility from management. It is a poetry site first and I think the skill of the poet should be therefore the greater part of the post.... if there is an image, it should be used to enhance rather than to shock or offend... and the poem should be able to stand on its own as well..... thanks for your observation and comment. We appreciate ya!
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This is th only site I post on, becase for what little restriction there is(I'm a boundary pusher, and I havent had to push one yet, here)the return I get from the interaction between writers is phenomenal. I have learned more about writing in the last 3 months than I have in the last 10 years, when it comes to old forms and general betterment of my writing. I can now write passable Haiku(thanks to Haikumonk)*bows deeply*. My opinion is if you need that strong an image to post with your writing, it either means that A; you are not confident that your writing can express how you feel or B; you just like gross and gory images. I have been to several sites and NONE come close to the community we have here. my son(c c short) and stepdaughter(bri bee) are on this site as well. The freedom of expression allowed here far surpasses that of any other site I visited. Keep up the good work...peace
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'their capability for individualistic growth.'
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marvellous, one needs to post to a community to indulge in individualism
an oxymoron or elitism in action?
see ya in the group
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I understand nyx's argument that many of us would be unable to express ourselves as fully as we would like according to these restrictions, but you really do have to consider the implications of a generally free website like this one. If you want a rule free zone, you're going to have to get published. On the internet, there are always going to have to be rules, for minors' sake, and such. I think all the moderators are doing a fair job with this issue, allowing nudity and such. I appreciate their work.
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May Allpoetry become a Poetry Website of Excellence and of Integrity, in whatever genré or category. Thank you for the opportunity to be a member of this Website. I appreciate all your dedication to make this a haven within a world of turmoil.
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This was informative as can be. I hope all that read it understand what a difficult job it is to be a site representative like a Moderator. I am honored to be a part of this site and I am glad to see that others respect it as much as I do.
~ John
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Very Helpful.
Hi there I think it was excellent you posted this,very helpful. I do have one sincerely honest question...
A looong while back - when I was fairly new here I wrote a poem regarding the holocaust. I did do a lot of internet research for it, and i also specifically tortured myself looking at every picture to get the one i felt depicted my poem best. Um... I realize NOT allowing dead bodies as a firm rule and NORMALLY (i'm no morbid loving person in ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM) but the Holocause I find a TAD (tiny bit) confusing.. It's taught in school. And for my example alone - we were forced to watch the brutal video.. Which I remember crying right there in class at 15, 16 years old. Granted, I would completely fine placing it in an adult category as a graphic image like that can give anyone bad visuals and nightmares.. However - I was never given a reason as to why I couldn't use it, no response what so ever (I didn't push the issue because I was new, and didn't quite grasp this site yet) but.. It's always stuck with me, and I do wonder why. I could explain the picture if that helped.. it was greusome... but not blatently visibly gruesome.. know what i mean? *shudders* anyway.. that "happening" deeply effects me for some reason, and it's a part of history so I would like a better explanation i guess.. and would greatly appreciate it Haikumonk (love the name by the way) and thanks in advance!
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im all for boundaries, without them, instead of order we would have chaos.
boundaries are set for certain purposes, but when those boundaries harm/make certain individuals uncomfortable, then i think it interferes with what they're trying to relay and their capability for individualistic growth.
going back to the holocaust idea - say my grandfather was a jew in the nazi camps and was a survivor. i would want, with all my heart, to portray the type of misery and suffering he went through, so that others, would not be so ignorant of the events that took place.
- however, going with the boundaries you set, i wouldn't be able to do so to the fullest extent.
i wholeheartedly commend you for attempting to regulate what should and should not be seen, as i know that there are many minors on here, that should NOT have to see things like that.
its my personal opinion (which is pretty obnoxious to begin with), that the boundaries are a little tight.
Is there room for "convincing"? If one posts a picture that a mod found broke a "rule" would one be able to take it up with said mod and try to convince them of its merits? (i have no mods and/or images in mind it's just a hypothetical question)
I really am interested so please dont take this as a "bash" towards anyone.
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I agree Don, this is the most flexible we have been with our image guidelines. We will never please all, and that goes for both sides of the coin - I know many people here that post on other sites as well, so your response seems reasonable to me in that regard. You were gracious in your response in my opinion.
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No offense taken... I apologize if the tone of my response didn't come off in writing as it would have possibly in voice. I was simply trying to let you know that there are boundries the site has and "honestly" try to let you know that these are awesome boundries but still limiting... for example: some people want to post X rated material... that's an area we don't want to get in, yet there are sites out there that will....etc. My intention was to be friendly but informative as to our stance regarding images etc. I guarantee you I was not trying to hurt your feelings. I have edited my post to clarify what my intent was.
Take care and many blessings....
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wow, i can honestly say, after a post like that i might want to take my work elsewhere.
my opinion was simply that, an opinion, it wasn't ment to be taken offensively, i was simply asking a question. my apologies if you found what i had to say obnoxious/offensive.
i, however, found your response to be rude, and very insulting. i am not an idiot, and i resent you speaking to me as if i were one, or as if i were of the age of five. i feel that you've implyed that if i do not conform, i can hike up my skirts and get out.
i have no interest in writing about the holocaust, and hardly ever, use images on my poetry.
i have been a member here for close to two years, and believe that i know the rules (if not all, then definately most). i have made many friends and have come to enjoy many poets here, but this has been the first time i have been truely insulted by one of the "faculty" of this site.
Once more, my apologies for having fielded an "out there" question.
Thank you, have a wonderful day.
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well, we appreciate your thoughts. You're right though in the end... the site, as ALL poetry sites does have rules... and the ones you see listed here are ours. Each site owner has their own vision... what he/she wants the site to be like.... this site is no different. I hope you enjoy what we have to offer. We definitely have the broadest abilities of any poetry site on the web at this point. However, if you find one that will allow things to be posted that we don't, please post there as well. Maybe being a member of several sites will in the end give you the most flexibility in your posting of your poems. Thanks again... take care,
Don
Site Supervisor
ps... my voice in this response is friendly and informative in case it is misunderstood. I sincerely mean we try to provide the most flexibility we can.... yet, we cannot provide absolute "just post anything a person wants" no boundry site either. And when I mention about other sites... I honestly mean that... every site does have different rules... I surely don't suggest anyone leave... but if someone really wants to post X rated material etc.... or skulls with bullet holes in them, we are probably not the right site for it (for sure) and there are others out there that might be.
I mean these comments in the friendliest, most informative manner. No harm meant whatsover nor do I want to offend anyone.
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so if we're writing a graphic piece on the holocaust, we're not allowed to find images that would suit content?
what if we wanted to make a further impact by using such an image?
i might disagree with someones choice of art, but it's their view on what "art" is, and i honestly dont think that anyone has the right to censor something like that.
i can't stand Manet, or Monet....but i wouldn't tell someone to take it down because i found it offensive.
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I still think that is just absoultly ridiculous. I'm sure half the people on this site that are going to put a picture of a pot leaf on their poetry aren't using it for medical reasons. They are getting high. Maybe parents should be informed that their children are being allowed to see the images. I wouldn't mind if it were my kid, I would just explain what idiots are to them...but some parents might just mind it a bit.
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Thanks... I sincerely appreciate your comment. We're in agreement..... hey, why not join and get the gold membership....? It is cool, affordable... and helps support the site! Well, take care and thanks again.
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i do not dissagree, if i wrote a poem (whic i am more then likely NOT to do,) i would convay my feelings with out the pictures but i was simply point out a reason why someone would use a picture of dead babys and it could be seen as ok
i honestly have no problems with these guidelines... i am a free member and therefore i cannot post pictures anyway so it dosenot apply as much to me... i just have an insacible urge to argue sometimes which dose often lead to misunderstandings on an other's part...
i think that to be far if ther is a questionable picture a moderator should read the content of the poem before decideing whether or not to allow the pic... that's all...
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Well a good writed should be able the baby's deaths in his own words, without the need to make OTHER innocent children who roam on this site become disgusted...
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if the poem is aginst killing of innocent childeren and the picture is to make a point, than i could see posting a picture of a dead baby
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Thank you for posting this.
Thank you very much for posting the 'Allpoetry Image Guide.' I believe that this should have been done earlier because there have been some pretty graphic images. I'm all positive for this (well, what really gets me is the nudity pictures, but as you said, they are under 'adult'). Let me ask you this; is it right to post picture from the Tsunami disaster? I don't think we need pictures from that, by that I mean the dead. Yes I know that you said no dead, but I mean some have posted a hand of a dead child. I don't know, but it is worse on tv.
Once again, thank you for posting it -I believe a lot of people need to be reminded of this. Take good care of yourselves.
Sincerely,
~ Kalen
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Can I just say the nudity paragraph was riveting.
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I am grateful for having the position of the site explained in layman/womans terms. Many thanks for the time this took. I for one appreciate it
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hahahahaha... OMG..... please help me off of the floor....lol... I'm trying to breathe and laugh at the same time.... hey, Solomon hide a 150 wives and 450 concubines...lol.. so he didn't do too bad either....! Just having some fun here... it's all good. Thanks Birchy for dropping in... you lightened my day with your excellent humor.
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Sorry, monky, it is the ability to respond like that that makes me treasure quitting my modhood.
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Hell, the bible is wonderfully obsene from Adam and Eve through King Lott .. and on. It is better than Lary Flint ever was.
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Thanks for your comment.
This is a world wide site and many cultures and countries have a different view of nudity than you or I. Most people world wide do not consider the old masters porn artists. Please keep in minde that we try to provide a poetry site that is tolerant and interesting for all cultures as well as all faiths. It isn't our position now or in the future to choose up sides regarding faith in this forum.
Each of us here have personal lives and in those lives we pursue our own spiritual beliefs. But, in regards to this community, we try not to project these "personal" beliefs onto our multi-cultural members.
Thanks,
Don
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pornography,nudity..it's all the same . You can slap the word "art" on it if it makes people feel better
The only right place for nudity is in the eyes of a married couple (in their privacy) and Adam and Eve before they sinned
not on websites or poems-just as simple as that
why we try to complicate, or add grey areas to things I'll never understand
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Thanks Mike. I appreciate your excellent comment. Now, we gotta get to work producing these masterpieces we all have in mind....
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Don, for years I ran a morning TV show put on by Jr. High students and one of their "missions" was to get something "dirty" on the air. I guess they rightfully thought that their fellow students would think them cool. I agree with your site policy on the simple basis that its broad audience dictates that commonly accepted social standards should be followed. My feeling in a school setting was that parents MUST send their children to school (it's the law!) therefore, they should expect that if they have chosen to bring up their children in a protective manner, that that choice will be respected. There are plenty of other places that people may go if they are interested in more "creative" adult sites.
Your list seems quite fair.
Mike
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lol... I understand fully what you mean. But, marijuana is also a natural plant of the earth that under certain conditions could be seen by anyone.... it just grows in the earth.... like a flower. Heroine needles sticking out of an arm provide a much different visual though... and, isn't one we care to entertain as a post here. These are much different. Possibly a poet wants to use a marijuana image with a poem that is about using for medical reasons etc. I don't mind that. They are using it in the United States for medical reasons... there is no getting around that. So, an image?... of a plant.... we don't see the harm in that.
Thanks... I hope this clears it up a bit.
Don -
"Images of marijuana-OK (not to sell it)
Images of needles in arm-NO (IE: drug use etc.)"
I think that's kinda silly and not sending the right message at all. Marijuana IS illegal. So what's the difference? I don't mean to sound like some up-tight old lady but Marijuana and Alcohol use still ruins lives and families. I would know, it ruined mine for years.
Just curious.
Stacy -
*nods*
I'll definitely be glad to not see as many disgruntled poets wasting our time trying to garner sympathy on the Bulletin boards.
definitely cool.
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Yeah... that's our hope Kylia! It will also assist the mods to be more consistent with decisions. All the way around, it is a healthy thing for the community to know where they stand and how it works regarding the posting of images....
You can't please everyone of course but we have now provided the most lenient rules for posting images in the history of Allpoetry.... and that, is COOL....
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Hopefully having this up'll cut down on the complaints eh?
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Not really. Our mods are well trained. This is the first guide like this since the development of AP though. So, I'm sure there will be some mistakes... a kind of human thing that is "normal". So, in case their is a mistake, I'm making it very clear that it is NOT the mistake that sets precedence. That's all. That is fair....
Don
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All in all an informative and well written post, but the only part I disagree with is the following,
"Disclaimer:
Some Images may get through the scrutiny of the moderators for whatever
reason. Those are exceptions and do not imply a change of these
guidelines. Too many times community members say "well I've seen this
plenty of times". That, to “Allpoetry”, is really irrelevant. Those are
simply errors and are not meant to set precedence or change Allpoetry
posting guidelines. IE: Just because a police officer doesn't pull over a
speeding motorist, doesn't imply the speed limit has changed"
First of all telling Allpoetry members that because they’ve seen an image somewhere on the site and they try to put the same one up and it gets rejected is relevant to "Allpoetry" is irresponsible and contradicts the spirit of the rest of the syndication. By doing this you put a firm divider between the members and "Allpoetry" you may as well go and shoot yourselves while you are at it, because this is supposed to be a sharing community and creating divides doesn’t promote that ethos. Secondly, if a policeman sees a speeding motorist and doesn’t pull them over, that policeman should be kicked, hard. Get better at "policing" and sort it and you wouldn’t have had to have said the above.
Echo.
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excellent message
Thank you Don.
I kind of took it that it was common sense about the pictures, but it is good to see that there is restrictions to be enforced if someone does not take the time to think about it.
Good message for everyone to read.
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Great
Great post, of course, I am a bronze member, but I like to feel that I am protected on this sight. Thanks for sharing such perfect imformative piece!
Purplerose
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good to see the firm guide lines set and enforced
it sets the stage for a classy place which I know AP is and all are welcome here but not all graphic art is.
Yeah!!!!!
good job moderator, deputy and all who participate here
thank you Haikumonk
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