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A Practical Guide To Commenting

Practical Commenting guide
Poetical commenting not covered :D

This column is the work of the author Methods, statements and opinions expressed are not to be construed as the official policy of or of any person appointed in a position of authority at AP. All actions are at the reader’s risk. All names shown in images are imaginary and bear no intentional resemblance (at the time of writing) to any AP name. 



A Practical Guide to Commenting and Gaining Points

 

runs on points. With points you can promote your work (or others work), hold or co-host contests and award prizes.  There are three ways to get points:

 

A Buy them
B Get given them
C Earn them
D There was a bank error in your favour collect 200 points and proceed to 'GO' 

 


This guide will cover the ‘earn them’ way of getting points, with a brief mention of the others.

 

Buying Points

 

You can purchase points at allpoetry.com/Store/points. The rates are published there. At the time of writing, 300 points retailed at $15, discounts for bulk.

 

Getting Given Points 

A straight donation from a friend or benefactor.

 


Banks errors in your favour

You are on the wrong website, you should be playing Monopoly. Seriously, there are occasional technical hitches, as with any website.

Earning Points

 

Ways to earn points:

 

1 Winning, placing or getting an Honourable Mention in a contest. 

2 Gaining an applause (7 points) Note: Comments can be applauded too!


3 Commenting

 

I have had points from all three of the above, but this guide only covers commenting. The rest depends upon you writing for and entering contests or producing work of a quality that attracts attention.

 

Where can you earn points?

 

On any poem, column, story or contest page that you have not previously commented upon. Items in the 'Features' box earn extra points for a comment



The only difference between the comment boxes is the line: ‘A critical review is invited’ yet one is a poem and the other a contest.

 

A 100-word comment will earn you 8 points on a normal item comment and 12 points on a Featured item comment. Less than 100 characters will earn you NOTHING!

 

Tactics of commenting

 

1 Stay legal

 

You must be aware that spamming is forbidden and, whilst likely to return a quick profit, is counter-productive in the long run. Poets hate spammers and will report them. This has two effects, you will be fined and you will also lose one or more potential readers. The more readers, the more chance of an applause and friendship and patronage.

 

Examples of spamming

 

Writing or pasting a large number of symbols or smileys.
Pasting in large chunks of the host poem to no purpose.
Pasting in the same comment, time after time on different poems.

 

In my experience Moderators ALWAYS fine a spammer so that they do not gain from the practice. Repeat offenders get worse punishments. 

2 Contest, poems, columns and stories can all be promoted in the Feature box.



Note the more >>  link. This will take you to the Feature page where the top bids are detailed. Gold members are highlighted in green

Clicking on the    link will reveal all the featured Pieces.

 

Browse through and you are bound to see a title that draws your interest. This is one of the most emotive areas. The promoter can view a list of who clicked into their poem. Clicking in and wasting their points by refraining from any comment at all is one of the major gripes on AP. Spamming is particulary irksome and is more likely to cause a complaint. Always comment when you click on a Featured piece. Why lose points when you don't have to? The points YOU will gain by commenting do not alter in ratio to the 'points per clicks' rating. In other words, a hundred-word comment will get the same points for you on the top or on the bottom featured piece.

 

3 (Non-featured pieces) Never comment if you have nothing to say.
You may have something to say later and wasting potential points with a quick ‘Great contest/poem/column’ will do you and them a dis-service.

 

4 Make your comments meaningful

 

I will not attempt to show you how to analyse a piece of poetry, writing or commentary. Instead I will merely point out what you already know but doubtless overlook.

 

Use everything that is there on the page that has to do with the subject

 

The piece will (normally) be made up of several parts.

 

A The title

 

Was it a good title?.

 

Did it seem to miss what you see as the central point of the poem?

 

Can you suggest a better or good alternative?

 

Does it need a title? (Often a poet cannot think of a good title and leaves a work untitled)

 

B The text (or body ) of the piece.

 

What did you think?

 

Was it coherent or did parts mystify you?

 

Did it flow?

 

Were there any parts that shone above the rest? Quoting one or two of these is not considered spamming but indicates to the poet lines of particular worth (in your opinion)!

 

Did any part dissatisfy you and Why?

 

Good rhyme?

 

Good grammar?

 

Good punctuation?

 

Any typos? (A considerate commenter will IM typos to avoid seeming to be fussy and dogmatic)

 

Note that none of the above are particularly addressing the poetic worth of the piece. Most comments do not pretend to come from experts. Most of us are not. An author wants feedback, good relevant feedback. His primary concern is if the poem was any good. If YOU liked it, say so and forget artistic, grammatical and technical considerations, he got to you and succeeded! Ultimately, isn’t the task or the poet/poem to speak to you at whatever level?

 

Let’s do a quick comment based on the above two headings:

 

I read the title and thought it fitted the poem well.
I would have called the poem ‘xxx xxx xxx’, but yours was a great one too.
I really liked this poem.
It made sense and seemed to flow nicely for me.
I particularly liked the line ‘His flatulence defeated reason’.
It seemed almost to trip off the tongue!
The part about buttocks was really really funny.
I have yet to recover.
I thought the swearing was a bit too much although it fitted OK
The rhyme/line flow was great and I saw no errors although I can’t spell for toffee (sigh)

That is 102 words already and we haven’t finished yet! How many poems have you seen that this comment would fit? Think wider and say what you see, not just what you feel.

 

The only thing worse than a quick ‘great poem’ is no comment at all. 

 

C The background

 

Like the background?

 

Was it a good choice?

 

D The graphic

 

Is there one?

 

If so does it enhance the poem or distract from it?

 

E The authors comment

 

Does the author say anything?

 

Do you agree with it?

 

Can you add on thoughts/observations of your own?

 



This 'Author's Questions/Comments' elicited the following response:
'I think the second one is better....cause I am ready for what is coming. hmmmm'      64 characters (78 including spaces) a few words short of earning points! (There was more)

F The colours used

 

Do the colours clash/contrast well?
 

 


That’s six possible areas of comment. A good composer will have chosen each for maximum effect and enhancement of the piece, why not compliment/state your feelings on some or even all of them?

 

Still here? If you can’t make a 100-word comment now, you haven’t read the above. Doubtless some will disagree with much of the above. The point is that all commenters must start somewhere and each of the above points are legitimate areas where you can comment and still be relevant to the piece the poet has produced. As you progress and practise your skills will increase, along with your points and your comments will become even more relevant and welcome.

 

Final points to ponder

 

Be constructive where possible. Good comments tend to get repaid.

 

Do not swear unless you already know them and it is considered OK. Even then, an excess of profanity will cause offence to someone, even a casual browser.

 

Be wary of passing moral judgements and stating your opinions on the subject matter unless it is a column. Ever heard of 'playing the devil's advocate'? The slant of the piece may not be the actual opinion of the author. Besides, the poet wants a comment, not a moral debate.The exception is a response to the Authors Comments

Even if you disagree with all of what the poet has to say, do not get personal. If you are personal, what stops him returning the favour? If you get personal you cannot, with fairness, then go and complain to a Moderator.

Make each comment different. If you form a standard comment and paste it in it is considered spamming as you are contributing nothing to the actual piece, just restating general comments.

Commenting is not about brevity. It is about providing feedback to the Author. Better to be understood and long-winded than brief and mis-construed

Commenting on a poem in a contest (particularly if you are also a contestant) is a tricky business. Try and be as positive as possible in order not to bias the judge. Remember it is their contest, not yours! 'Tactical' is not always appreciated in these circumstances and may bias the judge against you!

Entering a contest? Why not put a comment on the contest page telling the judge what attracted you to the contest, how good you think it is and wishing all the others good luck? Not only will you earn points but a good comment will put you in a good light with the judge

Press the refresh button on your browser BEFORE selecting a Featured poem. If your page is old, the poem you select may have ceased being a Featured poem before you get to it! Don't lose points unecessarily!


Still here? Well good luck. Now go forth comment in style

Points Tip!
Poet MagicLady places pictures of birds on her author's page and invites people to guess the bird for points! Press the Swan to go there!


Barbara has a great piece on Points too!
Press the girl to go there

Points is points

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  • Maldronah
    September 24, 2006
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    I appreciate the info and learned a lot. I disagree about background colors. Many of the poems I have read have required
    the use of the right button select all to be legible. That's like reading something off a teletype. I wouldn't write with blue ink on a black page, leave that to Hallmark. I want to read the poem, not admire the background artistry.
    Thank you.

  • Kitty C
    July 18, 2006
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    helpful and clever

    This is helpful thank you. I somewhat agree with Hazeldine and others though about sometimes not leaving a comment seems better than leaving a comment on a piece that didn't move me at all. I mostly want critiques on my poetry if it can be called that. I'm glad I read this column, it gave me a lot of pointers on how to write a comment...plus it gave me an idea about what the 'Verdict' box was for though you didn't address it--Some people used it on their comments to this column! I also liked 'D' -- it gave me a chuckle.


  • July 12, 2006
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    I just haven't seen a clear indication of that little box that shows if a poet wants a critical comment or not. I kept seeing the add a comment box and would just go for it. Now I'm finding out some people did not ask for them. So where's my blind spot?
    I'm new, but my personal opinion is that this point system is actually completely beside the POINT. Poetry should be read for the words. But OK. Anyhow, having to leave a comment when a poem does not move me is like lying. So is this feedback? Is this critique?
    Thanks.


  • Your Messiah
    June 8, 2006
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    D There was a bank error in your favour collect 200 points and proceed to 'GO'

    That's adorable! I totally agree with this commenting bit. I've started given out constructive criticism and it helps the readers out a lot. I always tell them something positive I like as well, so they don't think I just disliked the piece because 9 times out of 10, that is not the case.

    Well done.

    -Cory
    .x


  • earthstar
    May 11, 2006
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    very very verycreative

    Well I learn alot today. I was afraid to write too much. My teacher said feed back is short as not to lose your point. I am glad I took time to read this it clears up some of my mistakes which I feel bad. I am new at this. Now I feel better.
    Thank you for taking the time to write this.
    Have a great week


  • Psycho Jess
    April 21, 2006
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    Hey. Fantastic column, as are the other practical guides to AP of yours which I have been reading this morning. This is REALLY useful. I've read a few columns on how a comment should be done but I really liked the way you broke it up into 6 little sections - I never knew there was so much to think about! As everyone else's comments on this peice have said Thankyou very much, you've really helped me!
    Take care and keep up the good work!
    JESSxxx

  • karaharapriya silver member
    April 13, 2006
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    Helpful

    Thank you for the guidelines. I am new to the forum and have been clicking away and commenting without any thought to the points I earn. I now know not to be so cavalier about commenting. I am sure I must have really irritated some people here- I have browsed and not commented( which you say is a waste of points for me and for the poet) and also I feel awful about some of the comments I have made- pretty self-righteous of me. I also have problems about sending instant messaging. I found this site very very informative and instructive. Thanks a lot.


  • Elfin
    April 13, 2006
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    Thankyou for the amount of time taken to explain some of these things to us, most questions have been covered and have been a great help.You have my applause


  • Maatkara gold member
    March 30, 2006
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    Need to update on the max points per comment - 8 on regular posts, 12 on Featured items.


  • MargaretG
    March 12, 2006
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    Thanks again, Topaz, for this column. Unfortunately, MagicLady has stopped running her bird ID contest.

  • Philogos gold member
    February 27, 2006
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    I can't agree with you that not leaving a comment is a great crime. In the end there are always going to be some poems that you canot relate to positively and when the option is a dishonest comment "What a great poem etc.", a discouraging comment or none at all, none at all seems to me the best choice. Looking at my own poetry, the proportion of views to comments is a very good indicator of how much each poem engages with readers.


  • Viyanna Rosemarie silver member
    February 19, 2006
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    thank you for giving me this excellent guide on commenting. this was needed by me more than you can possibly know. i am going to bookmark this so i can have it as an easy reference. thank you. viyanna r langager


  • chills gold member
    January 3, 2006
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    Can you tell me about the symbol beside a commenter's name, date and time that looks like a wing or something?? What's it all about? sometimes there's one, sometimes two..... I am mystified!! thanks chilli


  • AngelSeeker silver member
    October 30, 2005
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    Thanks for the refresher on how this site works as far as getting points goes. The only thing you failed to cover is what to do if we come across a poem we just can't find anything nice to say about... I for one am willing to point out a few ways to improve someone's work, but I have come across a few pieces that would have required a comment such as "I consider this to have been a waste of my time. It has so many errors in spelling and grammar that it would have taken me a week a to point them out." I would suggest that purchase a dictionary a thesaurus and some lessons in the English language. Of course if you are under 10 years old, this was outstanding and please disregard my former statements.” I don’t come across those poems often, but it does happen. Since you advocate always giving a comment is there a diplomatic way to tell someone that you thought their poem was awful? Especially when they’ve had many comments telling them how Great, wonderful, stimulating, awesome… their work was.

    Patti


  • October 30, 2005
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    this is a cool column. It will help me for sure. I never know what to say in comments.


  • Princess Perdue gold member
    October 30, 2005
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    I find All this is extremely helpful--i myself was unsure of a lot of things and feel this posting covers most!. I hate it when people take your points for a featured poem then don't have the manners to even leave a word in the comments! it makes me so angry.i think they should be tracked down tortured and hung at sunrise. thankyou for this posting. shaz xx


  • Ava Noire silver member
    October 30, 2005
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    Great column, especially for new members. I like having "games" with my class and within my groups, I post a list of words and the first person to use them in a poem wins, or etc.


  • Oasis Rock
    October 30, 2005
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    v helpful, thanks for featurng this or i would have gone on commenting without really following ym opinion through, if you get me. nice one, cheers


  • misticmoonlite gold member
    October 30, 2005
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    this is going to be a little different,#1,structure of your write is some what informative,the point system does need a better system of usage,the form in building this write was so much a delght to read,very informative, words spelt ? correctly as I noticed ,more of a speech, but well worth listening ?too!! good job and yea! it is booked marked for sure ,a very detailed piece appreciated for sure..! thank you for posting it for all who wants some points to capture them in demand..Linda


  • Malabu
    October 30, 2005
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    Man I could use some of them 10,000 points....I would feature my poem and everyone else’s.....ohhh what a dream.....I tend to agree with motivator though......very insightful commentary given there......your poem does sorta sucked for rhyme and flow content…LOL ...but what I truly love most about it....was it was informative and correct....good logical meaning with truth and most of all...the things most here need to read....I feel if we all did these things said here in this writing....AP would be a much better place.....Well done Topie......I loved the writing as a whole and have book marked it for future reference
    Malabu..


  • masterblaster gold member
    October 30, 2005
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    Hi, and those points wasters, that little gang that have fun moving you out to get their's in, I would prefer to pay more points for a featured poem and get constructive comments, these points wasters really do get on our nerves, and we are not alloud to say a word about it, I say pay more for a featured poem and fine those who are too lazy to leave a comment, be it bad, good, or indifferent, but I feel this is a loosing battle, all the best, Di
    Edited on Oct 30, 10:38 because 'spelling'.


  • Osarkon
    October 30, 2005
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    Wow great column here, so many pointless comments are made on this site, but I think I make them as well, filthy little hypocrite that I am . A very useful columm that everyone should take the time to read, it has proved most enlightening. ~ Osarkon

  • Virtual Velvet
    October 7, 2005
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    Thank you for providing this guide. I just joined the site and I didn't have a clue how it worked. You have helped me to work out how to comment on your comments section. It would be useful to explain the points system specifically when new users join as I can't get the IM to work.I liked your spacing and your illustrations - as a novice I think I have a lot to learn and you have started me off in the right direction. Many Thanks!


  • bluesquirrel silver member
    September 26, 2005
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    Very helpful

    Thanks for this, I've just joined on the recommendation of Aslanlight and like all newcomers to anything or anywhere a bit of guidance is always appreciated- I'd better get reading and commenting! Thanks again.


  • Elfin
    September 16, 2005
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    thankyou Topaz, a very informative page.I have been making my way around this site like a blind person,now I can throw my white stick away and get going!

  • amateurpoetess
    August 30, 2005
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    painstaking

    Topaz, first by your Screen Name I thought you were a woman, second, wished that I'd clicked on your SN before now. I actually was trying to be brief in all comments to avoid problems. This was very imformative and helped me to see what is intended in critiquing. That having been said, I will attempt to be more long-winded in this effort. Or to save on my hands, will have to become a paid member so as not to have to critique 4 to add just one write. Thank you for this article.


  • August 20, 2005
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    Helpful.

    Topaz...I do think I've found the wrong page by gross intent, actually being brand to new here, I'm trying to locate something called the smiley's and how one uses them on the comments page. Plus where it says what's your verdict, what do I say? Does that imply two stars etc, or words like outstanding? Seriously pondering and wanting to know. Will reward you when I make something here. I think I will go for a walkabout here.

  • Lora
    August 9, 2005
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    This is such a useful column. I am new and have not posted anything yet but have been reading lots on the site to know what to do. I have looked at several featured poems and did not know about losing points if a comment is not left. I have no points as yet so it may keep me from losing those I may earn in the future.
    I see there are many ways to get points. I appreciate you listing all of these and writing a very readable and helpful column.

  • Lilithtornintwo
    June 23, 2005
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    i am wondering why some featured poems are highlighted in green and whatnot? what does it all mean?


  • I-Like-Rhymes silver member
    June 21, 2005
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    Informative

    A very interesting and informative piece of writing. You handled the topic well and kept my interest throughout.

    You even converted me to the idea of commenting on the choice of colours in the cases where I think everything stinks. Although in those cases I'll have to keep below 100 words. Wouldn't want to steal points where I would previously just walk on by.

    There is one part of your piece that I, personally, disagree with and that is the bit about refreshing your page before you hit a featured piece. Surely you don't lose any points if it is no longer featured. You just fail to gain extra points but you make the author happy without costing him/her anything. Or have I missed the point here.

    Whilst I am thinking about it. On the featured items thing I often wish it indicated the type [poem / story etc] or category [dark / humour / angst etc] as I hate clicking in search of a poem and finding stories and columns or slash poems which are not what I am looking for.

    Anyway I am a little wiser and, hopefully, a more considerate user after reading this.
    Jim S


  • A Pen Man
    June 19, 2005
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    i am an arse-hole, and i take things too lite

    whassup dawg! when i loged onto AP and saw your name in the shameless promotion box, i instantly thought how come a moderator is shamelessly promoting thier own poem, so i instanty removed your name from my author page - showing my disrespect to you, THEN i read this very long piece, and have come to the conclusion that this is an absolutely rubbish poem, the rhyming scheme is practically non-existant, there is absolutely NO structure at all. there is also a poor use of grammer, and as for punctuation there is an over use of brackets and question marks in this piece. the OVER USE OF CAPITAL LETTERS has made it quite obvious that you are trying to make a point, but why try to avert my eyes from what i am reading? on the plus side i havent noticed any typo's. i now will talk about the over-ecessive use of graphics, not meaning to sound totally awkward but the use of a swan, however majestic, has absolutely no connection to the actual piece, excluding the last sentance "click on the swan to go there". another thing that shook me was the over use of a random selection of 'Add a comment' boxes, showing off the fact that you have 10250+ points, yes just rub our noses in it why dont you. in your 'author questions/comments' box you do it again - 'points is points' i will overlook this bad grammer and put it down to your obvious incompetance for grammer and writing, but there is still no need to rub it in that i have a measly 424 points. i only hope that this comment hasnt offended you, as i am a complete ass-hole who takes things too literally. i have applauded this 'poem' for good measure, but you DID ask for a critical comment - so there!

    motivator [429 now!]
    Edited on Jun 19, 10:08 because 'lack of the mention of cheese - DAMN its still not there! where did it GO?'.


  • fae
    June 19, 2005
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    This is so so helpful and I thank you for taking the time to write it. Lovely presentation, easy to read and to understand. You're a Godsend!


  • MargaretG
    May 29, 2005
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    Well done, Topaz, this is thorough and easily understood.
    I found a bit of a contradiction in "The only thing worse than a quick ‘great poem’ is no comment at all." since previously you said that we should say nothing if we have nothing to say. I get a lot of views without comments, so I have to wonder about the acuity of the readers. I would like to know if people understood or liked what they have read, and I agree that "great poem" does not say enough. However, those who don't like a poem can also have valuable opinions which may improve a poet's skill.
    I think that MagicLady's contest is on haitus until her return.


  • Topaz135 gold member
    May 29, 2005
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    great job


  • PrabhuDayal Khattar silver member
    May 29, 2005
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    It is a strength for all

    This is a meaning full write elaborating the various aspects of writing comments. I must say i am benefitted with this.Some of my doubts are clear. Still I hope that there is a need to address about to make comments more friendly with reference to
    welcome the comments of the commentator easily. Friendlyness improves the area of addressing each other. I dont know you can do this. This was my point of view.2ndly can we also have a 'SPELLCHECK' facility during posting of the comments,author's note? It is an international site the comments/poem are coming from whole world. In this whole world, the use of english is depended on the strucure on the teaching english in their local schools. Therefore at certain points dictionery is also needed to understand new words. If dictionary is also avaialable with reference to understand the meaning of some new word which are not fashion in the whole world will also a help. For example I am searching in our dictionaries the meaning of LOL and it is not available in local dictionaries at all.prabhudayal khattar


  • Maatkara gold member
    May 29, 2005
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    Yeah, good job Kim Nice and clear for those actually interested enough to read it, but as so many have a limited attention span, probably not the ones who'd need to

    Oh, got a typo for ya: the plural of typo is typos (no apostrophes on plurals)

    ~G

  • dlwhite
    May 29, 2005
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    I read the title and thought it fit the piece well. Your title is direct and to the point rather than obscure with some hidden meaning only the author could ever imagine.
    I would have called the piece ‘Commenting on all work except cutting poems.’, but yours was a great one too.
    I really liked this poem.
    It made sense and seemed to flow nicely for me.
    I particularly liked the line ‘Do the colours clash/contrast well?’
    It seemed almost to trip off the tongue!
    The part about cursing was really really funny.
    I have yet to recover.
    I think swearing is necessary at times to express extreme emotions,
    Of course there was no rhyme/line flow which I'm sure would have been great and I saw no errors although I would have im'd any typo's because I'm such a good guy. (sigh)


  • May 29, 2005
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    I will also have to file this, the hidden rules of Ap are now explained in tedious detail. Hehehe, thanks for the read -Cisco


  • Utok Bulinaw
    May 29, 2005
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    Hello Topaz,
    Now that I clicked on this, I cannot run away without leaving a comment! lol. I will follow your guidelines here in making my comment. Thank you it is very helpful.
    Number 1 - I like the Title, it attracts a lot of readers here in AP, knowing that it is a beneficial read for everyone
    Number 2 - This column truly made sense to me. I get tired sometimes of comments like "I like your rhymes" or "Great write", its kindda getting old.
    Number 3 - I particularly like the graphics here especially the featured box and the bird by MagicLady (and I can see she seems so happy about that too)
    Number 4 - The background fits this column perfectly. It has an "official" look on it or something like "authoritative"
    Number 5 - The fonts or texts are perfect also. They are not too bright or too dark.

    I think that's all for now. I hope I did a good job on my first lesson of "constructive critiquing". Cheers! Eris


  • CountryCousin
    May 29, 2005
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    Excellent tutuorail

    I like the way you presented this one because it does teach a lot of things to the new comers which is why I defer them to the help section. Fortunately for me Elusive Butterfly showed me how to give the points to someone for a contest. Sometimes I click on the poem more than once because I like what the poem said and I want to read it again to see what else about it I can get into. I have gotten a nasty im from two and one of them lost an applause because of it. The other went into this lamentation of why I clicked on his poem without commenting. Something happened and I lost the page because of that dratted this page not displayed. But the way he did it also cost him an applause because it seemed to me very childish. Some poems I comment on but do not like and so I try to keep in mind the diplomatic thing. Some of mine that got commented on was just plain dumb because it was not forced rhyme at all. I wondered if the person was using up my points to build theirs. So I find your information to be very helpful and there are poems that I do not get at all. Should I say that or just put something down that I saw positive and leave it at that.

  • Miji
    May 29, 2005
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    (: This was very helpful, but a bit tedious because it was so long. You certainely made it clearer than the site makers.

    Thanks, Miji

  • Whirlwind Heat
    May 29, 2005
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    Wow! I honestly thought that this was something All Poetry had put by themselves to help us comment, but you did it! Well done, obviously a lot of thought and time put into this. I have definitely benefitted from reading this and I'm sure all the rest of us will be able to learn a substantial amount thanks to you! Well done and once again, thanks a lot! xxx


  • silver bugs
    May 29, 2005
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    Yay, this is great. I think I'm gonna bookmark this, it was certainly very helpful. Thanks a lot - great job
    ~Lana


  • PurpleBunny
    May 29, 2005
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    I clicked on this by accident trying to log out Topary as always a very useful guide and I will direct people that want AP advice to your page Thanks

    Dan


  • Barbara gold member
    May 4, 2005
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    You earned 6 points.
    ahhhhh.....ain't science wonderful!


  • Barbara gold member
    May 4, 2005
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    A 100-word comment will earn you 5 points? Hmmm....to check that out. (please note, this is not spamming, this is all in the interests of science ) Right now, I have 28 words....no, wait thirty three words.... now there are thirty eight words! Oh, will this torture never end!!! Okay....to the column....interesting, and very well done and easily laid out so that it is virtually idiot proof.(seventy words so far )
    Personally, I feel that people should leave a poem's title alone, unless someone specifically asks if it's okay. Titles are chosen for a reason, and sometimes may seem to have nothing to do with the poem, when it really does. Except for those cleverly titled "Untitled" ones (okay, appx 120 words...let's check this puppy out )


  • -LizBTropez-
    May 2, 2005
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    Definately an excellent column, one I wish was required reading to join. I do disagree ever so slightly on the typos suggestion, simply because I would find it easier if people would leave corrections in the actual poem's comment box... it's too easy for someone to IM you one line with a word or two that's incorrect and not tell you the poem
    Although I would be glad to go back and edit my comment if typos were corrected...


  • blondeoverblue
    May 2, 2005
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    OMG !!!!!! This was just sooooooo great and you are sooooo talented, I mean wow OMG it just meant sooooo much to me, it flowed and it rhymed like in all the right places and everything, I would even have read it, if it hadn't been sooooo long !!!!!

    (Like you need me to tell you how darn clever you are )


  • SusanL
    April 26, 2005
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    Hey there!
    Cheryl sent me here because she was so happy to have her link at the bottom of your column, I wonder how many will get that far.
    Now to follow your guidelines.
    Had I not been otherwise directed I may not have come here on the title alone as I am generally a fairly thorough and creative commenter. but I see that I have much to learn.
    You have covered this topic very well and I have learned a thing or two.
    I appreciate that you added a bit of humor here and there to keep this from becoming a dry disertation.
    As a final note, have you ever got any of those birds right? I have several under my belt and have got to name two of pick two recently by being the first to guess correctly. If you are serious about it you will need the National Geographic Field Guild to Birds of North America!
    Thanks for this inciteful column.
    Susan

    Edited on Apr 26, 9:15 because 'I got all 5!!!'.


  • MagicLady silver member
    April 26, 2005
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    Thanks for including my page here! I love to have new people visit and learn more about birding.

    You have done a great job here, Topaz, teaching new folks (and even reteaching us old folks) ways of commenting. We all need refresher courses. I like that you included background and graphic discriptions; those are always the first things that I notice. I guess that is the artist in me.

    It is very disturbing to me to get spam comments. When I get comments like: Very good rhyming, I like the way you used the flow of the words to make your point. It sounds nice....but it so happens that it was a featured CONTEST!!!!!

    Great job!

    Cheryl Cheers!!



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