Sex is not a need. It is physical desire that can be controlled and even denied. To act on the sexual desire in anyway outside of the holy covenant of marriage between a man and a woman is sin. To lust in one's heart is sin. Therefore masturbation is sinful because it involves lust and acting on sexual desires outside of marriage. Viewing pornography is sin because it is lust. Viewing scantily clad or nude bodies for the purpose of fulfilling or feeding sexual lust is sin. Indulging in sexual fantasy is sin because it is lust.
This sin is destroying families. It is destroying marriages. It is hurting children. It is hurting those who practice the sin. It is far from harmless. It tears at the very fabric of society by destroying families.
It is harmful for the unmarried. It degrades woman (and men too) and reinforces wrong thoughts and desires for them. A person who lusts is not seeking to know and to love. He or she is merely seeking their own gratification.
Sexual sin denies the highest purpose in life. It is a harmful substitute for love. Love is the highest law that God has given us. Sexual lust and sexual sin are a violations of the law of love.
Sexaloholism is a disease like alcoholism or drug addiction. Once you are trapped in the cycle, it is hard if not impossible to get free from it without help. To get help, the first step is to recognize that it is an uncontrollable problem and to desire to be free from the trap.
The good news is that men and woman can be set free from sexual sin in all its forms through the power and grace of Jesus Christ. Jesus not only forgives sexual sin, he also has the power to free you from all forms of lust and sexual sin. You don't have to be a slave to your sexual sins.
It is not true that you have to satisfy sexual desire like you must satisfy your appetite for food. You can live a healthy, normal and abundant life without sex. Jesus can give you that life. If you are married he can bless your physical union and let you enjoy greater intimacy with your spouse when you are free from lust and all sexual sin. If you are unmarried, he can free you from lust and all sexual sin and give you wonderful intimacy with him and other friends. Intimacy is not a physical act. It is being known by another and knowing another.
Sex was created by God and is a gift. He gives use of this wonderful gift inside the holy covenant marriage relationship between a man and a woman. But more than that he gives the gift of intimacy – intimacy with himself and with others.This piece is not intended to condemn anyone. It states my beliefs as I understand the truth of the Bible and from my own experience. It is mostly directed toward fellow Christians who may be caught in the bondage of sexual sin and do not see a way out. I am personally very familiar with this.
My current tenant is separated from his wife due to sexual sin. He is a broken hurting man. His family is shattered. His kids practically hate him. The same is true for my formal tenant. He has found healing from sexual sin and has been reconciled with his wife who has forgiven him. He is still estranged from his children.
Frankly I am hurt by the vehement attacks on my personal beliefs. I do not understand all the anger. This piece states what I believe to be true and is a call to forgiveness and grace. I realize full well that many will disagree. What I have said here goes against what the media and society feed us.
I am currently 37 years old and have lived a healthy, abundant, joy filled, celebrant life. I have not been completely free of sexual sin until recently, but I rejoice in that fact and hope others find the freedom I am enjoying.
Since I posted a piece on homosexuality and was criticized for not also discussing heterosexual sin, I am posting this to show that I believe heterosexual sin is just as bad.
I can attest to the fact the one can be set free from this even a single man as I am. If you want to be set free there is a great online Bible Study that will lead you to freedom www.settingcaptivesfree.com/course/
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i dont get it- so we shouldnt even think about sex?..
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We should not lust (fantasize about sex with another). Intercourse should only be between a man and his wife. To desire sex with one's spouse is not sin.
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A brave write, I liked it a lot. This is so true- and such a refreshing read after all the liberal/heathen rubbish out there! A good column, keep on writing
Thanks for writing this
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I'm sry that everyone is trying to jump you for your views, I thought this piece was awesome and truthful. If people don't like your work, then they shouldn't read it... simple as that. It's NOT wrong to preach what you believe as long as you don't hurt anyone or thing in the process. The KKK was wrong because of the violence they used, Hitler was wrong because of the violence he used. Jesus didn't use violence to force his beliefs, neither should we. If you feel that you're attacked by this piece THEN DON'T READ IT! Shucks, and they thought that teenagers were getting dumber...
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I applaud you for telling the truth here. I know after reading these comments that you have been raked over the coals for it. God Bless you. How many times in the Word does our Lord say that sex outside of marriage IS a sin- any kind of sex. Not to mention the direct references to homosexual acts (Lev.:13 I think in particular- I know it is there). Society has become so oversexualized that our children are growing up with the idea that it is their God-given right to have sex anytime, anywhere, with whomever (or Lord, whatever) they choose. Not so, the cold, sometimes hard truth is that sex is a gift given to us for the purpose of procreation. The "gift" part is that it is desirable, and feels good, but God expects us to treat it as any gift he bestows, with respect and within his commandments. It gives Him great pleasure when we suppress our carnal desires in favor of obedience to Him. (and hey most of humanity is guilty of sin in this area). Just because I am a "Christian" doesn't mean I am not a "sinner", just a forgiven one.
Again, thanks for the courage to tell the truth- I am impressed!
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I am laughing so hard at these comments! I have said it before and I will say it again everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but this is so funny! I won't argue on the religous stuff in this as I am not Christian, but in the 3rd paragraph you should just put women and men, instead of women (and men too) I think it would sound less degrading
Maybe you should try making this less like and ad. It sounds like you are trying to advertise your religon (though i have no problem with that, I am just stating it for the quality of the piece.)
And I'll stick to shaking my head and accepting your opinion for your opinion, even if I don't agree with it.
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I really really want to scream after reading this. It really rubs me the wrong way. I guess everyone has different beliefs, and I can't say anything to change that, even if I want to. Believe what you want, but I do NOT agree with this. I am 14 years old and indolge in sexual activity. I am also a straight A student and in the top 8% in my school, state, and district. I have never been in trouble, and lead a good life. I don't beliefe just because I involve myself in sexual activite; like masturbating and oral, that I will go to Hell etc. I have not sined, and really don't care if you or people like you think I have. It is really sad when people post stuff like this on AP, because it makes people break out into contriversal fights, and makes each and every one of us look bad. Good luck to you in life. ~ Nichole
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2000 years ago women were still considered a resource of the clan. Goods for exchange. Virginity was part of the game. They were sheperds and fishermen. And people would marry maybe at 14 or not much later than that. The world has changed. And besides, the world has never been the same at all latitudes. Many things are very relative. But a few things are stable: our real (non constructed) nature of biological beings, which Christians continuously and stubbornly want to ignore and reject.
If it was for them, people would not be able to divorce, use condoms to protect themselves. They would be reproached for masturbating, for basically most things related to the way people are. There is something sick in thsi attitude of negation of life. And where does it come from? From a bunch of hypocrites in most cases who tell you sex is wrong and they themselves are the first who do it (in guilt of course, but still do it), whithout being even able to understand that IF they do it is not because they have been attacked by SATAN but because the supposed GOD has created them with a sexual drive, -
Also, consider the image of the Virgin Mary: dogmas elaborated through the centuries up to recently. She is ever vergin, conceived without sin and she assumes to the sky without corruption. Why? Because the mysogynist sexophobic Chirstinas had to create a woman that is not woman, but in this way the perfect ideal woman: the woman who never has sex, and never gets corrupted, not even after her death. Another evidence of the hallucinated conceptions of Christainity regarding the material world. Put all the pieces together and you will realize there is something seriously wrong in all this.
But in order od do this you should have the guts to reject dogmas, you shoudl have the guts to refuse to blindly obey to what you are told. You shoudl have the guts to check everything with your reason.
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No, 50% are those who admitted. The rest, in my opinion, either don't admit it, or they have sex occasionally, or are old. A few are committed. It is not matter of "committing to celibacy". If you commit youself to not eating you simply cannot make it. And being possibly the strongest drive created in us by nature (butterflies don't even have a digestive system but they have the reproduction system) it is unreasonable to think that sex can be controlled by using 'one's will'. And the percentage of non celibate priests (who should be theologically strong) is a further evidence. There are some behaviours of humans that are simply unreasonable and pathological. Many religious behaviours fall in this category.
The prejudige against sex is related to the religious rejection of the material world as a way to gain access to transcendence. Sex reminds of decay, transcience and death, therefore religions while developing soothing fantasies of transcendence had also to 'reject' the physical world in its most obvious expressions. The expression of early "fathers of teh church" are clearly pathological. The relationship between sex and sin is pathologically maintained even in marriage, considered a lesser sin in St. Augustine. Sex in Christianity is the way through which the original sin is transmitted (like a STD).
The thwarting of sex is also a way to keep people under control: by accusing people of being 'sinners' for simply doing things that are part of their nature, guilt in instilled in people, and of course priests are present themselves as mediators with God to cope with the sense of guilt instilled.
It's all a psychotic joke. And it is only a matter of time, people will realize this. That it is all a joke, a fantasy, a psychotic hallucination.
Instead of reading teh Bible, I suggest reading books of bilogy or psychology. I am sure they are closer to the truth about human beninsg than a book written by ignorant (compared to today) people thousands of years ago. A book full of contradictions and inaccuracies, a book that is not science.
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That depends. How committed were these priests to celibacy in the first place? I suggest that many Catholic priests aren't very Catholic to begin with. But if 50% aren't living up to the celibacy rule, 50% are, so obviously, it's not impossible, it's simply a matter of committing oneself to that lifestyle and creating a no-fail environment.
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Every religious belief has an underlying philosophy. By dismissing a belief simply because it has a concordance in a revealed religion does not address the merits of a belief. The belief that sex outside of marriage is wrong is a belief that transcends many religions. It must be because there's an underlying belief that justifies it. You sound like someone who thinks he has the absolute truth about whether or not sin outside marriage is a sin. I respect your right to believe that it's absolute truth, but it's contradictory to make absolute statements about the morality of an act and then tell people not to do that.
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.... and HOW STRANGE that one particular religion that is probably the strictest about sex has officially amongst its ranks 4% of abusers of minors (in some places over 8%) and 50% of ministers (experts of theology!) who constantly break their vow of celibacy and their "covenant" with God. How strange. Truth is: try to establish an unreasonable rule, and that will be broken anyway, but often in a twisted way. Think about it.
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You see Goss98, there is nothing wrong in believing even the whackiest thing. I respect the right of people to do what they want. If some people came out with the idea that only copulating plastic dolls is saintly, I woudl respect that. But if they try to tell me (not belonging to their 'religion') that I sin because I should copulate with plastic dolls, if they try to patronize the WHOLE society because THEY believe they posses the absolute, unquestionable, indubitable truth, then it is different, it is a wrong and unacceptable approach.
You can do what you want. But don't patronize the whole society by saying that sex outside marriage is a sin, because it is not. What is happening nowadays in America is that you have a president that seems to be willing to establish a theocracy with his messianic born-again stands, and he says pretty much the things that you say, in a more subtle twisted way, using a facade of science and spreading his whacky idea of abstinence-only (non)education which has proved ineffective on society scale. He has kind of got away with it so far (but hopefully he will be kicked out in November) because he can rely on religious patronizing attitudes, but society is made of lots of people, you cannot expect to use the Bible to establish laws and rules for everybody. You should stop talking about sin, condemning everybody. Follow your own rules if you wish, but you don't have any right to judge others and to tell others that they are sinners. And you shoudl understand that lots of people don't really care what "HE" said just like they would not care what a character of "The Lord of the Rings" has said. Not everybody believes in Christ. Some believe in Buddha or Elvis and some try to just do what they think is right without sticking to external arbitrary rules of sects and religions.
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I meant women as a collectivity. Women have had more power in the last two hundred years than they've ever had, but before that, their political power was very limited, and I don't believe there's ever been a truly matriarchal society.
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He did not say we sin by merely having sex. He said we sin when we do not reserve sex for marriage.
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Since when have women ruled? Even in matriarchal societies, it's men who ultimately have power. I suggest the notion that women ever had ultimate power in any society is a myth. The fact that they are childbearers in primitive societies makes it virtually impossible.
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Consider also another aspect. You cannot expect in a multi-ethnic, multi-faith-no faith society to sound credible with your religious lingo. If you want to sound credible you have to try to express an argument that is reasonable irrespectively of religious dogmas/lingo. And I am afraid, your statements are not reasonable, they are even DANGEROUS, in that they CRIMINALIZE sex, and can consequently create mental damage (sense of guilt, compulsive scruples etc.) in people, especially young. I don't want to assume anything about you, but you appear to rely too much on 'the bible'. You should read some psychology or science book instead.
And one more thing. DO you know that various studies have proved that 50% (at least) of 'celibate' Catholic priests are sexually active and an equal percentage is homosexual? Well I can give you a whole list of books and studies about it. Does it mean anything to you? It means that EVEN those who are supposed to TEACH don't abide by what they teach, simply because it is not possible. Open your eyes. SO much stress on "sexual sins" is innatural and suggest an unhealthy fixation.
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All your post is a sin. Against biology, psychology, and common sense. You have obviously undergone a severe indoctrination by some Bush abstinence-only activist. Be fair: recognize human animal nature. If we sin by merely having sex, then the whole biological world is sinful. Except perhaps monocellular organisms which reproduce by simply splitting themselves.
Sex can be associated to disturned behaviour, but that does not make it wrong by itself, just like if there are people who are obese that does not mean that eating is a sin. Think about it.
You are not pure spirit, whether you want it or not you have flesh, sex drives, and a vagina. The latter is not there for ornament. And if you believe in God either his creation is flawed or it is perfect.
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"Since the dawn of civilization"
um, care to go back to history? according to that statement, youd be going back to when women had power, and ruled, and when there were consorts, and concubines etc. people were polygamous instead of monogamous (sp?) etc...
Society has an interest in making sure the most optimal conditions are respected
--like when them thar Americans had african americans for slaves right? or women were supposed to be "good little wives", maybe its when daughters were sold for marriages...
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I will respectfully disagree with you then We all have different opinions on what should..and what is, ..etc, thanks for not bashing, and just sharing your thoughts.
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Personally, I think that marriage is the foundation of society, and therefore, ultimately the state. Marriages must be formalized and protected as they have been since the dawn of civilization because they serve such a vital function: the establishment of families and the raising of future offspring. This is not a trivial task. Society has an interest in making sure the most optimal conditions are respected. It is not and cannot be a purely individual matter.
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Would you say then that the only life-long never-ending love is labeled by a marriage license? I think we are thinking too literally on what marriage is. Marriage is a commitment between two people, whether legal or not ..(if they deem it as such)
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Good stuff.
Jesus said that if the world hates you, remember that it hated me first. Of course you will inspire anger at your beliefs: you are sayings that are outrageous to the world because the world rejects them. Above all, they do not want to change their ways and heaping invective against those who speak Christian truth is one way to silence Christians and not come to terms with sexual sin.
I have tried to be pure in my ways, and while I was not so good in my adolescence, I got better at it, and I think it was one of the smartest decisions I have ever made. Being married now, I see what a humungous responsibility sex is, and how it is totally designed to be an act of covenant-- a pledge of life-long never-ending love. I think that when I was an adolescent and more in-tune to the world's thinking, I didn't understand it as much, but now that I'm older and I've lived a more chaste life, it makes complete sense. -
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Are you saying that if I have sexual sin, that I am dirty inside and won't make it into heaven? :'(
On the bright side, its living in all the sexual SIN I please, or dying and going to where? romp around with uptight angels?
I personally think a little sexual sin would do you all some good. Teach you how to enjoy life
Yea. I don't think Heaven was made for me. Thank you very much for informing me of that!
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and so if somebody wrote a comment that intended to offend the author of this piece, that commentor should have his or her free speech denied him or her? Is this what you are saying. INtent is completely irrelevant.
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By the Christian faith, everyone is a sinner, and the author was first to admit that he was one, too. It is common knowledge that the Bible doesn't condone pre-marital sex or unhealthy lust, at least with most interpretations of it. As for this piece being up on the site, it has every right to be. Just because you don't like another side of an opinion doesn't mean that you should tuck it away out of sight. No one has to agree with this piece, but since the author put it up with a helping desire and civil speech, I think it's only fair that the comments be presented in such a way. There are commenters here who disagree with the author completely but presented their arguments well without tossing around insults. The author of this piece isn't trying to offend or condemn anyone; he's trying to help. So any offense caused by this article wasn't the author's intention, but tossing around rude terms to the author is obviously intentional.
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Moral views are somehow better and more acceptible as writing than are views that you don't see as moral? YOu are a very stupid person, incapable of rational thought, and I feel sorry for you.
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(to edpeterson666) but you aren't expressing moral views..instead, you are bashing someone because you don't like their views. and no, I don't think it's right to go calling him a bigot and a fascist. if you think that, then write a column about how you think people with these beliefs are these things. but leave it out of the comments. it is just plain rude.
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Excuse me, but last time I checked this was a POETRY SITE..... I just do NOT think that this belongs here.
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0h, and i take offense to neither the essay, nor the responses. I think both, for the most part, are poorly written, poorly thought out drivel. But i do find the back and forth sparring highly amusing.
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well yes of course he is. but you seem to be saying that those who are calling him a bigot and a fascist are, in some way, not entitled to their views and to express those views.
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(in reply to edpeterson666) Christians believe that we are all sinners...and I don't see anywhere where he used the term "lustful reprobate". yes, he used the word lust, because he believes lust is wrong. if you don't find it wrong, then you shouldn't take offense to it. isn't he entitled to his views as much as the next person?
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hehehe Are you for real? I'm serious cause I read a piece of yours saying homosexuality is a sin and now you say hetero sex is a sin and I would go off and masturbate but you say that's a sin too. Woe is me what is a girl to do?
I suppose I'll keep sinning till I figure this out for myself.
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This is defining what is sin. It does not call anyone a sinner though that can certainly be infered from it. No one is called a retrobate.
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yes, but is not calling someone a sinner or a lustful reprobate an insult?
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you are saying that calling someone a sinner is not antagonistic? how is calling someone a fascist any ruder or less polite than calling someone a sinner. that is horseshit.
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i have learned from this how to yawn tactfully.
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I applauded your comment not because I agree with your views, but because you presented them tactfully and logically. You made your argument well and I would hope the others learn from your example on how to critique and tactfully disagree.
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My last say on this ..who is to say that just because two people don't have a legal slip stating they are married, that they aren't married by soul?
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Just an interesting piece of informations for you. Did you know that if a man doesn't ejaculate every so often, the sperm stored in the testes can go off and release hormones into the blood stream which can seriously effect one's mental health? Wet dreams are a natural effort to prevent this. Masturbation also reduces the chance of prostate cancer and other
In women, masturbation is good for reducing stress and tension, reducing cramps and strengthening the pelvic muscles which aid labour.
For everyone, masturbation teaches about sexual happiness and about our bodies, is safe, gives pleasure, and carries no risk of STDs or pregnancy.
I fail to understand how your proposal of abstaining from all forms of physical intimacy outside of marriage has any benefit to anyone. I also fail to see how or why either masturbation or even full sex (between consenting adults who are not committed to any third party and who take precautions against unwanted pregnancy and STDs) harms anyone. Sex may not be essential in order to live, but it is beneficial to health (as many studies have shown), and it's enjoyable.
Adultery, yes, I can see why that's a bad thing. But on the other hand, I have many friends who are in perfectly happy polyamourous relationships, and I wouldn't dream of telling them they're wrong. If it works for everyone concerned I see no problem with it, and I can't see how it's my business to interfere anyway.
Mind you, not being Christian, I see no need to sign up to your ideas that sex is a bad thing outside of marriage. Therefore my only concern is that people may harm their own health and mental well being by abstaining from something for no well-thought-out reason. I should also point out that there are many branches of Christianity who do not believe that, for example, masturbation is harmful.
(Please don't anyone reply asking me to study a Bible course or anything along those lines. I am entirely familiar with the teachings of Christianity, and I choose not to accept them. I would appreciate it if Christians on this site could accept that of me. You are welcome to your religion and I will not get involved if I can help it.)
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No, I don't think stating views is a bigoted and caustic act, unless they involve calling people "diseased" for their particular sexual preference, which is insulting and rude, and shows a complete lack of respect. As I said, my anger was provoked by a previous post. This to me just seemed like a recovery method.
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I don't think that the author is bigoted and caustic for stating his views. Rather, he is receiving bigoted and caustic replies by people who feel condemned, not by him, but by their own consciences. It is my personal opinion that he believes what he is saying is the truth, and is sharing it out of love, and not hate. I am very intrigued by the use of the word 'bigot' by those who feel that people with a conservative look at things are being too narrow. It is all in how you look at it. They could very well turn around and call people with more liberal views bigots as well, for not adhereing to their views. Respect, respect, respect. It is ok to share your views, whatever they may be, and no one should go knocking it simply because it makes them feel uncomfortable. If you don't agree, then just say so. There is no need to leave insulting remarks. This is not directed to any one in particular, but to those who, as a whole, feel that only they may express their views, while those of a more conservative bent should be silenced.
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Okay, honestly, I don't see where this column condemns anyone. The author himself admitted of his fallability in these instances. I feel much, much more hate coming from the comments. All this is is a statement of an opinion. Let's face it, who among us enjoys a point-of-view that tells us we're doing something wrong, whether you believe it or not. That doesn't hide it from being out there. There's nothing wrong with introducing a new opinion to this piece, but to insult the author's character is uncalled for. Mention where you disagree, what you disagree with, anything along those lines, but do it in a civil manner. And people say that this is poorly written...I don't disagree there are a few things that could be changed, but if this was a column on something not controversial, I highly doubt that anything would even be said about that, and very unlikely anything of this sort. But if people have their reasons, that's fine. But if this is a thorough critique, then why aren't there more of these on the site? Why do I see pieces that make my stomach turn in sheer agony, and see a long list of comments saying how great the piece is? So if you look at this piece (not any other pieces, this is a comment forum for THIS piece) and think it condemns, then compare the comments to the piece, which is trying to offer help (for that's merely what the author intended, since he went through this cycle before, and if you don't want this help, no one's making you accept it), or the comments that delve into fascism, the character of the author, et cetera. And I don't pretend to be a perfect person by ANY means, but I think what's going on here is extremely rude and uncalled for. The author is not judging anyone, so do him a favor and not judge him. And I will say it again that there's no problem with stating your opinion or making an argument and I will admit that there have been some funny things said, but this is merely an opinion presented in a polite manner, so please, reciprocate.
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First you "damn" homosexuals, now you are starting in on heterosexuals. What's next, bunny rabbits and the wrongs of eating grass?
You and people of your ilk give real Christians a bad name. This sort of tripe is the exact reason I have a deep seated loathing for organized religion and the people it represents. I find it loathesome that you seem to feel as though you are speaking for God...in all actuality you are simply making yourself look like a bigoted ass. You are preaching (and doing so quite ineffectively) bigotry and hate and shame. The Bible does not teach these things and if that is what you think, perhaps you need to learn how to read metaphors. Because that's all that BOOK is. How someone can take something that was, if anything, written to act as a handbook and guidelines so literally is saddening and rather pathetic. I hate to be the one to break it to you, but they are just words on a page originally written by a bunch of MEN around the 7th century and then rewritten countless times by others throughout the ages to suit their whims and fancies and opinions. And you know what that's called: Propaganda and fascism and you are the biggest patsy of them all.
On a final note, shame on you. You really are a sad and pathetic individual.
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If you'd read the bible, as closely as you like to make out, You'd notice that even Jesus, wasn't this harsh with humanity.
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Actually Ophelie, I'll be the first to admit my comment here could be seen as rude, and it is a direct result of this person's last post, in which he was bigoted and caustic, even though he states he wasn't. I guess such a backlash on this post seems over the top, but I was extremely offended by the last lot of propoganda posted, so wasn't in the mood for seeing him try to dig his way out of the hole he had shoveled. Personally, this was not the offending post, but the first one...well...
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I have come to the conclusion that these columns are just an advertisement for the website that melphleg has put into the author's comments.
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I think it is very disturbing that just because people didn't like what this had to say, they left one disrespectful remark after the other on it. It is highly unnecessary. If they do not agree, they can at least say so in a civil manner, and leave it at that.
Shame on you, people! You are accusing him of judging for stating his beliefs! You are judging him! Take your own advice, and leave the guy alone! Geesh!
Quit saying you are all open-minded, because this person can't even tell you what he thinks without you all having fits!
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I am sorry to all who took this as an attack against them. Nothing I have written here or elsewhere is an attack or a condemnation of anyone. It is a statement as to what I believe to be true and contradicts what I consider the lies of the media and society. I could not possibly reply to all the comments, so I've editted my authors comments.
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I too, am Christian. And though I am not very old (only 14), I have learned many things from Christians, or at least the Christians I have met. If they are supposed to be Christ-like, they are NOTHING like Jesus. They're condemning,and harsh, cruel people. I'm not saying all of them are like that, but that is what the Christian religion has shown me.
So far, you have not changed my mind about them.
God wouldn't turn these people away. He loves them, even if they do not love him or follow his commands. And I try to do that, from the moment I get up in the morning until I go to bed.
But of course, I am only HUMAN, so I slip and stumble along the way. I make mistakes. Being that I am the age that I am, I am currently going through hormonal changes. Yes, sir, this means I am HORNY and LUSTFUL. Perhaps you have forgotten what it is like to have these feelings.
God also went through these emotions because HE CAME TO EARTH TO WALK WITH MEN AND KNOW WHAT IT WAS LIKE TO BE ONE OF THEM, SO THAT HE MAY UNDERSTAND!
You have no right to condemn the entire human race, as you have done here. You are not God. Only God can truly judge us!
Have you not commited at least half of these sins? I know I have.
Sir, you disgust me.
Our God is a forgiving God, and I seriously suggest you start praying for forgiveness and wisdom, my friend!
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I'll have to disagree with you, although that is probably because i don't share your faith. But as that is the case, and i am assuming that you are trying to write to people who don't share your faith, because, why preach to the choir, you don't do a great job. If i believed the bible, sure. It would be great. But i don't. And as such, you don't really offer much argument. Other than saying that the large majority of human nature is wrong, you don't make an argument. Sex is a wonderful thing. It is entirely different from love however. Love, that doesn't require sex, intimacy, it doesn't even require being in the same place. Sex, it just a feeling, eating, sleeping, a natural behavior. Ain't nothing wrong with it. You are right that it can be addicting, and that that is bad, but in the right way, there is nothing wrong with sex. It is just life.
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or heal my paper cuts..... lmao.
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i wonder if God will help me get this finger out of my anus.
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I'm really not usually this mean... but how could you have posted this and not expect a whiplash... it's like a small penis you can't help but laugh at..... ack.
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That's the ticket. LoL.
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lmao @mysty....
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Hahahahahhahaha yes! Did you see my 'critique'? Hopefully it sounds like one now. Lol.
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Cookie, since I respect you, I will not argue with you, I will merely say I don't agree with your view of things. I have however seen you share your faith, and you do so in a loving and open way. So I offer a
and respect you for sharing your opinion
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Haha, this is kind of off topic, but did you ever see that one episode of the simpsons where homer was like "mmmm...sexahol"?
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You brought out the 'need' for sex first, which was very wise of you. For then it will enable the homosexual/perversions to see the 'violation' to God's highest order of oneness to married people only under the His covenant. This is not a human's opinion, (supported entirely by Scripture) but it will not convince those who haven't been drawn by the Holy Spirit. To them it's a wasteful and nonsensical bias. You are very brave to announce this modern sin field that has so torn at the original an beautiful wonder under the Creator's ordinance.
To those who don't agree, try one thing. Believing in Him or not, don't argue. Go behind your door as it instructs in Matthew 6:3-4, and talk and ask away. With the right heart, I promise you'll get a nudge in the right direction. And also. Remember...that you are still loved...no matter what! An execution as great as crucifixion covered anything.
I DO think that it is considered hyperbolic (exaggerated) to say we don't really NEED sex, since it is built in our design, but I realize the context in which you intended. The subject of masturbation is also contesting, with which also might have its place.
Once people know what love is in the divine sense, they will see why God is protecting us..not limiting us...from the regression of true pleasure.
Overall, this is a wonderful apologetic. Scriptural references COULD be helpful , especially to those who are questioning this hot topic.
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This seems to be a view based entirely on the Bible and nothing else. This specific piece seems to have taken a Biblical verse, and then expanded it to make it sound like an advertisement for the website that he offers in his Author's comments.
The first thing that he says is 'sex is not a need' and this statement I'm going to have to disagree with solely on the basis that he basically put all sex. Without sex, at this moment in time, our species would come to a halt. If he's talking about pre-marital sex, there needs to be specification upon it. This needs to be further developed, as it remains vague throughout the entire piece.
The entire piece basically lacks reinforcement of beliefs with facts, and a lack of focus upon one single topic. It jumps around.
"This sin is destroying families. It is destroying marriages. It is hurting children. It is hurting those who practice the sin. It is far from harmless. It tears at the very fabric of society by destroying families."
This is said in the piece, but is never reinforced nor developed.
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D+ would be generous.
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I'll be right there with ya, Jenn
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There is no way to prove that every heterosexual person having sex outside of wedlock is a sexaholic or is having sex merely out of lust based intentions. Some of us are afraid of marriage, some of us have been burned by it, and some of us realize that maybe we never want to be married again, and refuse to let anyone make us feel ashamed of our own sexuality to the point we would be celibate the rest of our lives. Sex can be very beautiful ..in and out of wedlock. (i like that ..in and out ..and in and out.. and in and out ..rofl)
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Wow, buried in here somewhere, there's a real critique...
This doesn't say anything that the Bible doesn't.
~ Cerulean Dreamer
ALso. It would behoove you, if you are intent on writing, to learn some language skills. Start with learning the basic grammatical rules of the English language, then graduate to cultivating a skill for constructing logical arguments if not poetry.
...this poorly written piece of prose rambling...
Well, let us not overlook the grammatical inconsistencies and the repetitious and uninvolving sentence structure.
~ edpeterson666
...the view is a cliched one in that you hear this OVER and OVER again.
~ MrWinkingFool
And there seem to be some ... discrepancies about the logical consistency and validity of the argument itself across the board. So, overall, I would say:
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LoL, drives me insane. And I'm still forced to go to church each week until I go to college, and we have a massively conservative preacher who preaches why killing in war and for crimes of murder is OKAY. Seriously, in a few weeks, I'm going to be an atheist if that keeps up, lol.
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I've done jesus and alot of AP.... and surely I will go to hell in a handbasket.... sighs.
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I don't disagree with you about the critical aspects of the piece. But seriously, how can views not be cliched? Someone's going to agree with you no matter what. Now the manner in which something is presented can most certainly be cliched. It's funny that people are faster to pick apart someone's opinion than they are to notice spelling, grammar, punctuation, et cetera. If you want to rip apart something like that and find good cause, be my guest.
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So Mister Ed... what are we going to give the piece? We should come up with a grade to please the masses.
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I am greatly sorrowed for you. Lol. I lucked out and had and insane conservative, and a moderate liberal.
Thank the heavens I didn't have to come on here and say 'this is something that I do, and they're stupid'. It was easy not to because I do not belong in most of those groups. (Of course I belong to the porn group... I'm a typical guy... lol.)
my parents who think that Iraq should be turned into a parking lot and that black people are evil
-That's just my dad. Lol. You forgot that not only black people are evil, it's anyone that is not a white conservative Republican. Eck.
All I wanted them to do was respect my opinion and not attack me, and only now when I am heading off to college will that somewhat stop.
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Hahaha.
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For him or her to discuss religion and law with you would be the rough equivalent of masturbation.
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Now see, THAT'S an opinion on the content and structure of the piece. Finally.
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Well, let us not overlook the grammatical inconsistencies and the repetitious and uninvolving sentence structure.
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I think I'll go watch some porn.
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A lot of people do say that about narrowmindedness, but really it's merely not respecting someone else's opinion.
I myself am not necessarily a Christian, nor do I condone all the views in this piece. And do I think it's wrong that you're friends with a bisexual? My gosh, no. Some of my best friends are gay. I'm glad you don't take that stance anymore. I'm just sick of so many people here commenting and basically being like "hey, that's something I do, and this person is saying it's wrong; well, they must be stupid because it's not my fault" I guess a lot of people would have trouble being impartial with a research paper; maybe I'm more accustomed to that because I grew up in a home of two insanely conservatives, ended up being a democrat and getting persecuted to no end from my parents who think that Iraq should be turned into a parking lot and that black people are evil. All I wanted them to do was respect my opinion and not attack me, and only now when I am heading off to college will that somewhat stop. It annoyed the hell out of me, so that's why I try to treat other people's views with more respect. -
Peacefully completed
Man you hit the very spot that many people must listen up too.. You put salt on the wound for every human out there. Its really good that you put this article up and out there for the general public to listen too..
Im goin to send this as an email attachment to some my family and few my friends, and have them send this to others. I will post your name and URL to visit more of these statements. Keep it up.
VERY well put together. If you ever want to discuss God and law, i am at gerkinlurkin21, on aim, to chat. Im on alot. So you just add me, and we can discuss anything. I have grown up in a catholic home. Damn!
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It sounds exactly like a sermon given by one of those tacky men / women on television! That's where it is from. Personally, using my old English teacher's grading rubric, the piece would have obtained... at most a 44. It's lacking in all areas. Do not only tell, you have to show! But the thing that would piss her off the most is that the view is a cliched one in that you hear this OVER and OVER again.
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whoah, this is incredible.
finally someone who speaks up against sex before marrige.
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People are attacking the column writer, others are attacking the original attacker. Who is truly better? To rip apart an opinion, or to call somebody an idiot and childish?
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I go with a dead French guy on this one:
Think for yourselves and let others enjoy the privilege to do so too.
~ Voltaire
I disagree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.
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And are you going to tell me that the content of an essay is unimportant when considering the grade? I cannot imagine an essay more limp and utterly devoid of thought inducing content than this pile of borderline plaigarism.
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Ed, I don't think it's considered a poem because it's under columns. Thus it's a research paper. I couldn't give it a high grade, UNLESS it was supposed to be an opinion piece that only needed one source which could be completely biased.
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IN a minor point of defense ..it is actually posted as a column. But I agree it is poorly written.
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And what grade would you give this poorly written piece of prose rambling, that is being presented as a poem. Please educate me, and point out something poetic about this writing.
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you do it in a pathetic and childish way,
-In the eye of the beholder.
But I find it ironic that while all of you condemn the writer of this piece so easily and claim that he's so narrowminded,
-I have NEVER used the term narrowminded. I immensely dislike the term. Why? Because a narrowminded person is one whom doesn't align themselves with your beliefs. Or so many people think.
Would you give a research paper on an opinion you didn't necessarily agree with a lower grade than one you did?
-This is why I couldn't be a higher education teacher. I think that I would subconsciencely go through their paper with a fine-toothed comb, while the others with a regular comb.
you aren't even taking time to consider the other aspects of this piece, and honestly, how can you say that's any better?
-Because of my father, I used to HATE any one that was different from me. Blacks, gays, etc. However, I met three of the best people. Two of them are black, and one is bisexual. The bisexual girl is my best friend. When I first met her, she hadn't come out yet. She, I believe, has been the catalyst to changing how I think; what I believe; and how to look at the world. -
Well, you are one of the few here who aren't doing it in a pathetic and childish way. Like I said, there's nothing wrong with offering your opinion, but some people are just being idiotic.
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I personally am not condemning her, I give my opinion of her attitude in general, and I disagree with what she says. She has as much right to say what she has, as I do to respond with my honest opinion ..even if it disagrees with her own.
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Oh I'm a sinner and in a big way...but hey I can always ask for forgiveness...so sin away...LMAO...good writing...I just don't agree...I'm too much of a "SEXAHOLIC" and I like it that way...*bowing head* please forgive me...LOL
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Ahem, I BELIEVE I said that there is nothing wrong with introducing your opinion to it, but when you do it in a pathetic and childish way, it undermines your opinion, too, and coming from someone who has been in many, many debates, that's just annoying. I agree that it's impossible for people not to be opinionated, but that doesn't mean it's impossible to give a fair critique. When I read a poem or a piece, I do it like I'm grading a research paper. Would you give a research paper on an opinion you didn't necessarily agree with a lower grade than one you did? No, that's just stupid. But I find it ironic that while all of you condemn the writer of this piece so easily and claim that he's so narrowminded, you aren't even taking time to consider the other aspects of this piece, and honestly, how can you say that's any better?
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I don't agree that love and lust are twisted for all. I am not married, I have been married, and what I experienced in marriage equated lust more than any relations I have with my current partner. What I experience with my current partner is love, and not lust..is intimate and not just physical. To say that something that takes place outside of wedlock is merely lust is to make an unfair judgement and assumption about 2 people that a person knows nothing of. It is unfair, untrue, and biased by personal belief. I have experienced more love outside of wedlock than I ever did within it.
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Ripping apart someones views? If they did that, then obviously A)they are REALLY good; or
the original view was weak. They were critical about the TOPIC of the piece. So you're saying if somebody came on here with a long extremely well written piece about how Hitler was an extremly intelligent and moral man, you wouldn't say something to him/her?
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You tell many truths here and the response is as I suspected it would be. I have to wonder how this would sound if you removed the word "sin" the truth would still rein.
But phrophecy is taking place as we speak, even to the way a Christian is accepted in this day and age.
I guess I'm saying love and lust have gotten twisted together somehow, yet all the suffering we see proves that lust is not love...but my friend the blind can't see.
This does appear to be more preaching than poetry but I applaud you for have the courage to speak your heart and God's.
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"Give to everyone who asks you, and if anyone takes what belongs to you, do not demand it back. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you."
Luke 6:30-31
"Do not judge, and you will not be judged. Do not condemn, and you will not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven."
Luke 6:37
"Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention the plank in your own eye? How can you say to your brother, 'Brother, let me take the speck out of your eye,' when you yourself fail to see the plank in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye."
Luke 6:41-42
"Why do you call me, 'Lord, Lord,' and do not do what I say?"
Luke 6:46
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