Well, they’re everything but free -- that’s for sure.
If you are into secret societies, the occult, and conspiracy
theories, then Freemasonry is where it's at. Stanley Kubrick’s
Movie “Eyes Wide Shut” starring Tom Cruise, has our unlikely
Hero up against the Masons, and these guys over at Freemasonry
Watch.com certainly can sympathize. The Masons are trying
To shut them down www.freedomdomain.com/freemason.html
Do I believe the Freemason’s control the world? No, do I care? No.
But it sure makes for a fascinating study that can take you as far back
In time as the Ancient Egyptians, or maybe even to Atlantis (15,000
to 20,000 years ago Antediluvian), but one thing is for sure; it is
definitely a secret society based around ancient archaic knowledge,
rituals, architecture, and Black and White magic.
What is Freemasonry, exactly? See, that’s just it, it isn’t quite:
A religion, creed, cult, coven, clique, or corporation, it’s all of the
above. Older than most religions, including Christianity, it is as
enshrouded in legend and myth as the Great Pyramids and Sphinx.
Thought to have originated from the minds of the greatest builders
of antiquity evolved by alien intervention. You can always tell a
Masonic Building from all of the rest, because the son of a bitch
won’t fall down, and it has a very distinctive design.
Masons meet in lodges, and I
dare anyone to walk in and sit down for a service, and watch
what happens. Odds are you will be kindly asked to leave. Because,
you have to be asked to join the Masons by the Masons,
and then initiated in, you just can’t sign up at the door. America,
was founded by Masons escaping rank Europe, persecution, and looking
for a new beginning to an old theme; getting in early, and setting up
control, because we all know what the early birds come away with
don’t we?
Are Wiccans Freemasons? Nope, Wiccans are 'mostly' hippies
and teenage girls and boys trying their hardest to fit in somewhere,
anywhere -- that found a home in the New Age movement of late.
A fashion statement if you will, because in all actuality, if you buy a
book of witchcraft from B. Dalton or Walden booksellers to impress your
friends at school like the Necronomicon, or any other grimoire or
modern tome on white or black magic
(The Satanic Bible, or any Cunningham, or Silver Raven Wolf book,
Druid, Celtic, Thorn and ash etc. Bologne) [real magic, like medicine is not
sold over the counter to 13 year olds -- pissed, in puberty, at the mall. You
need a prescription, or the know how on ways to decode the 'real' books]
Otherwise, basically, that’s what you’re getting, a fashion statement.
Because, I can guarantee to you that there isn’t a spell in there that’s going
to work. However, I bring this up because Wicca is linked to Freemasonry
through a pretty interesting source, The Golden Dawn. Another secret
‘society’ founded by Greggory Mathers and Aliester Crowley,
Israel Regardie, A. E. Waite. And others, Blavatske etc.
www.hermeticgoldendawn.org/index.shtml
Not that these 'named few' were Wiccans, on the contrary, in fact they
would, and did, laugh at the concept and birth of Wicca. That's why Blavatsky
created Theosophy. To bring some "structure to this poor man's witchcraft".
And because that was the only word 'simple' people at the time had to
describe these odd enlightened "witches" with, and it stuck magically
(no pun intended). Wicca was born, a hybrid of geniuses and idiots,
accidentally. It was simply called 'witchcraft' up until the last century.
Thousands of years old worship of the god and goddess Hecate and
the hunt. Dyonisis, Bachus, the earth and planets, nature, a loose practice
that acknowledges the connections in all things, and a way to harness
and control them for one's benefit. A very selfish practice by most
standards, narcissistic and horribly prone to distortion by sociopaths.
Covens of witches focus on themselves and the coven, and their
relationship with the god and goddess, not their communities as a whole.
Also older than Christianity. Wicca, or prehistoric Shamanism was
thought by scholars to have originated on a lost continent where
women had taking up dancing nude around stones wearing pointed
hats, and inducing hallucinations through the ingestion of
hallucinogenic plants (Think back on Satan and Eve in the garden.)
If that isn't a metaphor for early witchcraft, and the use of herbs to
obtain a closer relationship with God, than I don't know what is?
It wasn't until all of the Astrologically inclined children in the age of
Aquarius got together, and decided to reinvent it, did the name 'Wicca'
appear. Let's face it, being a witch just sounds more entertaining and
'special' to kids and adults looking for ways to improve dating and social
and spiritual life? Why do you think there are SO many love spells?
It's basic anthropology people, wake up and smell the cauldron.
“Witch”, “Warlock”, “Satanist”, “Pagans” all fabulously dull names used
and developed by layman, and peasants in order to describe someone
they can’t quite figure out. Similar to the word, or rather ‘abbreviation’,
U.F.O., get it? Then along came the 60’s and Wicca:
www.religioustolerance.org/wic_hist.htm
Practically an over night phenomenon invented and used to sell
a giant crap load of books to a giant crap load of people sick of Christianity,
and looking for another way into the great beyond. Groups like the Golden
Dawn and Freemasons, and also the Jews were acutely aware of this.
The Kabalah, or Jewish magic, is a huge seller world wide.
Books about magic 'in general' are huge money making devices,
and everyone has there dirty little fingers in the pie.
Who buys these books other than teenage boys and girls teetering
upon the edge of puberty and the abyss? Well I’ve got shelves full of them.
Everything on the subject under the sun. From Mather’s Greater Key of
Solomon to Crowley’s Lesser Key of Solomon, and do you know what?
It’s a load of crap. Because, if it wasn’t, I would have already summoned
Satan twice and at least own a medium sized Casino by now, or something?
My enemies would be fried pig's feet, and I’d be drinking a Pina-Colada in
the Bahamas smoking some Wacky Maui Powi, word up home skilet.
(Sorry, my pants were sagging).
One might then ask “What the hell is the Golden Dawn, and where did
it originate from?” Bingo, from an off shoot of the “Rosicrucians” which
Is another secret society linked to as many things as Hitler, Scientology,
Gnosticism, and right back at the Freemasons?
religion-cults.com/Secret/Rosicrucianism/Rosicrucianism.htm
And these guys www.xyz.org/templars/ and even surprisingly the KKK…
Isn’t this all just about as fascinating as watching an ape transform into a
human being? I mean this is really getting complicated. These damn
occultists are as slippery as eels and apparently tied into everything from
politics, and the law, to the Clergy! Woah, is the Pope a Freemason! ? No,
but Popes hired them to build their Cathedrals, and Popes hired the Knights
Of The Templar to police the world and go fight the Holy Crusades, which
were about stealing land, and money (as all wars are), and that’s close
enough for me. Am I hearing this right, the Catholics using secret fraternal
orders of men, involved in of all things ‘magic’, to fight their wars with the
Muslims and Jews? Now that’s interesting, that’s practically better
than Science-Fiction?
So why would Secret Pagan Fraternal Orders of Men be compelled
to infiltrate Christian organizations in secret, or openly? That folks is
the million-dollar-question. Money, power, and control, what else is there?
All of these organizations have that In common, and they always have,
right back to the beginning of it all. What is the beginning of it all? Good
question, but I would assume that it was probably way back when one
smart manipulative Cro-Magnon, or possibly even Neanderthal man
About a 100,000 years ago first realized that the majority of his peers
were susceptible to suggestive mind control whenever God, or the
‘great unknown’ mysteries of the universe were somehow involved with
the suggestion. After all what wouldn’t a simpleton do to live forever in
spirit, especially if it is in the service of their great creator?
Good question, apparently, they will do whatever it takes including:
lying, stealing, and murdering anyone that gets in their way on a scale
that not only defies logic, it controls it.
Now, do I think the Freemasons are the root of all evil, and somehow bent
on world domination? No, but do I think something horribly flawed is
underneath it all? Yes, and it’s not the secret knowledge, or secret rituals,
because any fool can go to the public library and find every ‘so called’
secret their heart desires, or just buy a copy of Manley P. Hall’s “The
Secret Teachings Of All Ages” like I did, and save yourself the trip.
The horrible flaw I’m speaking of isn’t in the Magic behind It all.
It is in the greedy hearts and the crippled minds of the men that use it for all
the wrong reasons, The Cains of this world hunting down their brothers --
right down to the very last one. Personally, I find it all about as boring
and pointless, and philosophically challenging, as taking a dump while
camping, and trying to keep how you wiped your ass a BIG secret.
Now there’s an embarrassing top secret ritual we all can relate to.
Organized religion and The Freemasons
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Kept me reading till the end
Were going to end up being one global community if you will or One world government eventually. It doesn't matter if Freemasons are the cause or whoever since whatever it leads to only a few people with a huge amount of power leads to one thing and thats corruption. Nice piece by the way.. Your were wrong about one thing my friend. It wasn't until all of the Astrologically inclined children in the age of
Aquarius got together, and decided to reinvent it, did the name 'Wicca'
The age of Aquarius isn't until 2150 unless your talking about the last age of Aquarius which was over 20000 years ago but you have to show me where the written knowledge is for that far in history.
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Actually, your dates are off. We are in the age of aquarius right now and have been for about the last 100 years. I'd do more astronomy research and occult research if I were you. Wicca, smicca, bicca, flicca? Who cares? Those that can't walk alone through darkness, can't walk with crowds through light. In other words... There are a million versions of witchcraft and magic and god throughout the world, but only one matters. YOU, and what light you can bring to others by sharing knowledge, food, warmth, and love. God kills murders and rapes daily, so do all of his most devoted children, and angels, because the god that you know is really JABUHLON, or a reptilian alien race of fallen angels that have been on this planet mind fucking us for over 30,000 years. mind fucking us with religions and monetary wealth and celebritism since the dawn of time, when none of it has anything to do with love or god. the pope, the catholics? are the richest corporation on the planet capable of ending world hunger instantly, so, why don't they? heremes trigamestus needs no war, no killing, no cheating, no need for control, and through this and only this, by no longer needing to be AUTHENTICATED by Masons, peers, catholics or witches, by NOT needing to JOIN some group of needy people desperate for change, but too stupid to work for it. (how easy is it to be "forgiven" by god? how easy is it to become a reborn christian? it's simple, there is no real hurdle or work involved other than asking jesus to forgive you? please... what a fucking cop out)looking for god everywhere but in themselves can one share in the archives of the universe and know that really every one of us has a mother inside, a father inside, a son inside and a daughter inside, therefore, why struggle against any of them at any point in time? humans just need to grow up, and quit hurting eachother over things like homosexuality, and skin color. God or no God, neither are working Alphamale.
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Horus8,
Are you sure about the dates? Astronomically speaking the year of the Pieces I believe was around 0 B.C. or maybe 4 B.C. The age of Pieces was the beginning of that age. A age lasts around 2150 and forgive me if I am insulting your intellegence. I have heard about the reptile race but I am not to familiar with it. I am sorta informed that David Icke visited a shamen out in some rain forest who hasn't been what you would like to call "mindfucked" and on a different vibration than our own. I am also well aware that we need to embrace our divinity and share love with everyone around us. In " Enuma elish" the Babylonian people believed that god and the people themselve came from the same thing. We are all ONE. I honestly don't know where you came up with the 30,000 year thing because I think written history only goes as far back as 4000 b.c. If you could enlighten me on your sources so I may be more openminded to it and possible more "enlightened" that would be great Horus.
John
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fascinating
Fascinating. You and my wife (who is a genius, a solitary witch, and a philosophy buff) would have such a great conversation. I have a couple of friends who are Freemasons, and I have read a bit of the Illuminatus Trilogy, but apart from Dan Brown's books, I am otherwise completely ignorant on this topic.
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I've researched them more back in the middle east where there were rumors they were connected to the recent tunnels being dug beneath the Aqsa mosque in Jerusalem. Something to do raising Solomon's Temple (hence the idea of masonry).
The Wicca concept, while amusing is sketchy though it might not be too far fetched I guess. I am not convinced by the Hitler bit but the KKK concept doesn't seem too far-fetched either despite the 'lack of discrimination' amongst members.
As for the government bit, while they might not be out for world domination they are very deeply rooted.
This was very different from whatever else there is to read.
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Thank you, yes, I've read the book,
and I agree. feel free to carouse my homepage
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Have you ever read _The Illuminatus! Trilogy_? It's a very interesting book all about Freemasons (and a lot more). I think it's a good article though. I think people wanted to focus more on the one sentence that could have been mildly offensive to someone with absolutely no sense of humor instead of looking at the big picture. You definitely know what you're talking about though. This could be a simple but helpful and comprehensive introduction for anyone who wants to know more about it.
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Your reply was totally unreadable, completely neither here nor there,
and most of all 'lacking in focus'. What are you asking me? You yourself say that I say "mostly" hippies and etc... And I, in my article, say "mostly"? Mostly is not totally now is it. 75% is mostly, and 100% is totally, see the difference? Very good, carry on, you're excused. Please try to keep your drug use and "uniqueness" out of your replies to writers in the future (Not only because it has nothing to do with my article, or me, but you.) But also because it makes you sound like a crazy twit that doesn't know what the hell they are talking about. Well that, and your crap grammar (just some advice from a concerned writer). Happy fourth of JULY!!! lol -
There are some large generalizations here that must be challenged. For example, the statement about Wicans mostly being "hippies" and teenagers who are trying to fit in. On what basis does the author make this statement? For example, there are several wiccans attending my church who fit into neither of those two categories. Indeed, what is a hippie? I thought I was one briefly years ago. However I was oly an irresponsible drug using youth. Let's look at people and recognize their uniqueness.
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I have found this column extremely enlightening. I have dabbled in different forms of 'spirituality', theology, philosophy and what not and I agree with everything you stated in the last paragraph. It is not the 'magic' or ritual religion. It is the selfish, power hungry and overall people who put reins on nature that are the cause of evil and world domintaion(as you put). Thank you for this amazing piece, I look forward to researching more into this subject.
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I was already... I figured, fuck it.
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You know you are under survallence for this write!
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Hey. Yes I am a Christian but I will not slam you for your beliefs. I'll not tell you that you are wrong either... I do try to show respect for what other's beliefs are.
With all that being said... you've written a very interesting article here... and this isn't to argue... it's more for clarification really. I was always told that the masons were 'low down' in the illuminati organization (which from what I hear isn't called that anymore) and is a 'way' or one of the ways into illuminati. I was told that the illuminati is represented on the back of the american dollar by the pyramid with the eye on top being the eye of Satan and that each block represented one of the branches, if you will, of the illuminati and one of the blocks at the bottom, the lowest level, being masons....
will you tell me what your take on this is? You've really peaked my interest here... I've only studied about this a little.
BTW, I think you wrote this really well. You seemed to have really done your homework on this. Thank you for sharing. ~Melissa -
Can you be more specific?
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Well, we're all entitled to our own opinions and beliefs and this certainly makes for interesting reading, even if many of the stated historical and other "facts" are wrong.
Unfortunately, if those "facts" were corrected, much of the above argument would collapse and be revealed for the nonsense it is.
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I am more trained and versed in the art of modern witchcraft
than most Wiccans will ever be, but I'm also wise enough
to find and acknowledge the origins of witchcraft for what it
truly is, that being Prehistoric shamanism.
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I thought this was a good post for the most part at first I had to read over it again becasue like one other I thought you said just strat out wiccans but you said some so yeah I went over this 2 times so i would not sound stupid anyway not all wiccans as you put in your responce are just into them selfs I like you have studed up on it and still do and my riends and I try to make everyone happy when they need it but over all I know you did not make this to get to anyone or to upset so I just took it as you sying what was on your mind lots of love Robin...aka SH
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All I know is they wear damn funny hats.
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LOL oh Gill don't for get all the lawyers and judges who are all involved in it too over here.
This was a very interesting column to read and opens up many questions about the different 'secret societies' which are around and as to what their real meaning in life is.
I agree there in any group will be tinged with corruption. I think the masons are renowned for many actions in that direction.
I keep an open mind to most things. and this was enlightening.
Ann
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I'd bare my left breast and give a secret handshake..but I'm afreaid the lights would go out
and I'd fall over..
The freemasons are big over here too... but it's mostly old men and ex-policemen who are in it.. probably going to get someone saying ..rubbish to that.. but PAH!!!
Interesting piece hun
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When it comes right down to it, any group that involves
initiations and hazing, really, is more about 'being one of the guys'
than it is about god. It's about being a part of something not
just anyone can be a part of. It segrogates, belittles, and becomes
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My grandfather was a freemason and I never thought about what that meant until a few years ago, but even with all the things I have learned about them, isnt just about any religion that way?
There are people who are catholics and jewish and christian that are all in it for the power and money and such. Every religion is that way. Freemasons arent any different in that respect. Though I do think some of their rituals are quite odd, but then again, seeing christians rolling around on the floor, claiming to be speaking in tongues and so forth, seems rather odd to me too.
I guess the thing is....most any organized religion or group or corporation, is all about power and money.
look at Jim Jones. Look at David Koresh. Look at just about anyone who is the leader of anything like that.
its just sad that they all think THEY are the ONLY ones that are right, and that THEIR way is the ONLY way.
And I think its just like the others, there will be corrupt people and there will be genuinely beautiful people within these groups, and just because they are IN them, doesnt make them evil or stupid or anything, it just means they are blinded by what they think is the truth.
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Hmmm and oh my how to comment on this one? Ok let me trying breaking it down into percentages...lol 75% of this held my attention and 25% drove me into circles nuts..and then again just about anything on or roundabout about religion drives me nuts!
Everything we have and know about every religion, cult and etc has been pretty much handed down via mouth then onto cave walls, rocks, papyrus and so on and so on. I truly believe there is not one 100% all factual as it really once long ago was religion out there! I'll even admit being half Cherokee that the Shaman ways my grandfather taught and passed onto me before he left this world I doubt as 100% correct. I am not a doubting Thomas persay but I rather see it, feel it and fully experience it first hand before I will put my seal of; "Yes this is how it is and was", on it! I will admit that at times I do dabble and experiment in other areas and will once in awhile admit to a certain kindredness with Wicca BUT I am NOT a hippie nor a teenager! Now as for sitting in a Mason Lodge I will quite frankly admit I have! SUPRISE, but I was not there for them as I am a woman ha ha I was there as an invited initiate for the female sect which I've never heard or seen much of anything written about known as The Eastern Stars! Now keeping in step with the promise/oath to secrecy I took those many years ago I will NOT go into any specific detail or detail at all BUT I will tell you this much..."after what I was put through and saw and participated in while I remained with them is any indication of a push toward wanting world dominance either religiously and or governmentally by them and their male counterparts BE AFRAID, VERY AFRAID for they make old Bushy boy and his current cronies look like a boy scout troop and as for the middle east groups, terrorists Al Quaida and such HA they just an unorganized severely uneducated group of want to be's!" So in final closing...WOW am I glad I am Half Cherokee!
Respectfully,
~Nikki~
P.S. Oh GREAT WRITING a most informative piece!!!!
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It certainly is, thank you.
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Mmmm...Luminati conspiracy theories. There's a mason lodge in my town. Oh man, in St. Louis, there's a bajillion masonic temples, and they're almost as if not more ornate than the Catholic churches, which is very hard to believe.
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how can i add to this what hasn't already been said...
i can't...
my dad was a 33 1/3 degree mason, a fine upstanding member of his community...
at his funeral, nearly half the town of just over 9000 people attended... many of them masons and shriners themselves...
what i remember of his funeral rites put on by the masons was quite comforting... and yes, i didn't know the meaning of much of it at that age (it was almost 19 years ago) i asked one of our family friends what much of the meaning behind it was, for instance, why he kept putting on and taking off his hat...
his explanation was anytime they spoke of the creator, God if you will, out of reverance, he removes the hat...
as far as being a viable, honest religion, or system of beliefs, all i can say is this...
just before the moment of his death, my dad sat up on the side of the bed (something he was unable to do up till that point) looked up, and said Allah, Allah, Allah, and died...
i asked what the meaning of this was, also...
Allah, instead of just being the Muslem name for God, it was also one of the innumerable names for the creator...
even though a transmutation over the ages...
i didn't understand this until recently, when i began my journey into Wicca, where i learned many of the innumerable names for our creator, about half of which can be considered female, btw...
is freemasonry for me? no, but, i do respect those who do consider it for themselves, just like a christian who choses christianity for themselves...
but, i dare say, few christians respect me for my beliefs...
very few...
i know, i've rambled on here a bit...
but, it's my opinion....
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But Wicca is all about 'your' relationship with the god and goddess.
Not 'ours', or the 'worlds' therefore it's a very selfish practice, and extraordinarilly narcissistic, it even says so in any in depth book on the subject, that's why covens are small and focus on the coven and the individuals and not the community.. -
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This was very informative, although I have to disagree about Wicca I think that maybe its not a bunch of teens. Some people have relatives that are older who have practices Wicca and have handed it down. I also think that some use wicca as their religion, not for the purpose of populartity but for the pur relation ships with the gods and goddesses..BUt overall a very good article -
Ok first you say this IN your article:
'What is Freemasonry, exactly? See, that’s just it, it isn’t quite: A religion, creed, cult, coven, clique, or corporation, it’s all of the above.'
then you say in your first response to my comment:
'I say repeatedly that I don't think the masons are
any worse or better than any other religion.'
And now you say:
'I distinctively say it's not a religion in the article why are you bothering me with something you didn't even take the time to read?'
I did read it. I wish you would make up your mind. And I didn't say you had attacked anyone, but the comments from several people did seem somewhat attacking. I commented on this piece just like lots of others, and it has nothing to do with you personally.
Oh, and you can apply to be a Freemason, you do not have to be asked. You do need a sponsor and so on, but you have to ask to become one. They do check your background, looking for felony records and such, as they want men of high moral character, but you seem to be getting very angry with me, and all I was doing was posting my opinion and giving additional links.
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Knowledge attracts both the worst and best people.
The Freemasons began as a very unique group
of scholars and learned men thousands of years
ago, coming together to
apply math and science to God and living, and
gradually over time turned into a Southern College frat
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I take it you don't have anything better to do then to come over to my work and tell me how many mason's you've blown, and how I'm a judgmental person? You know absolutely nothing about where I'm
coming 'from' with my article. Do you know why Freemasonry is an all male
fraternal order of men? Because it's a 24 hour a day stag party that takes pride in treating women like shit. I've personally seen women raped, beaten, and tortured. And I think you have a lot of Balls to tell me
about a group of people I know infinitley better than you, just to what? Speak out against horus8? Are you stupid? the freemasons are horribly male chauvinistic elitists, and totally practice ritual magic? Everyone knows that, whatside are you arguing for? the masons? you're a christian, you're not in the masons? you're a women sticking up for a group of men that feel superior to women...ah wait so do christians? no wonder, I really don't see your point other than you have some problem with me?
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I bring religion into this ACE, because that's what the article is about "Organized religion and Freemasonry", not "Freemasonry is a religion."
Do you read? I distinctively say it's not a religion in the article why are you bothering me with something you didn't even take the time to read? I think I would know, I wrote the damn thing? You're not the brightest dye in the guatamalan sweat shop are you? I reiterate, I wrote the column... I think I know what I wrote and why? You can excuse yourself to another poem any time you'd like?! What's keeping you? -
Not sure why you keep bringing religion into it, its a secret fraternal order of men, yes, and its not a religion. All that is required is that you believe in a higher power. It is not associated with any religion per se that I know of, but perhaps you will say otherwise. I don't need to be privy to all the 'secrets', but I did live with a Mason who never practiced black magic and never judged another human being based on his or her associations. Easy to say someone is a Mason - but its another thing entirely for them to act like one.
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I'm not attacking anybody.
If you'd have read the article you'd see that
I say repeatedly that I don't think the masons are
any worse or better than any other religion.
but as a Mason I think I know a bit more about it
than you, otherwise thanks for the links. The reason
I know more about it than you is simply because
I'm a man, and I've spent my entire live researching
the metaphysical sciences, nothing against you, but women
are not privy to masonic secrets or teaching beyond
a certain degree in the brotherhood, hence, why it's
a SECRET FRATERNAL ORDER OF MEN. lol, so
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I am the daughter of a Mason, and I myself was in Rainbows as a young teenager. My father was very proud of being a Mason, and was proud when his stepsons asked if he would help them become Masons as well. The Masons (including my stepbrother) participated in his funeral service a few years ago, and it was an amazing ceremony. Just to give another view of what Masonry means, I leave this link: web.mit.edu/dryfoo/Masonry/Essays/anon-builder.html
I am not posting this as argument - just my opinion. There are lots of articles and essays where I found the link above, which gives a definition of what a Mason is.. but I found it at web.mit.edu/dryfoo/Masonry/Essays/. Perhaps everyone will not agree with this definition - but it is the way I was taught, and I believe that it is an honor to be a Mason.
I believe the Masons work for the good of all, regardless of race, religion, etc. Nothing wrong with all the disagreements on this thread - but the attacks on each other serve no good purpose in my opinion. -
You are a very interesting person. Not quite the normal kind. Makes me want to learn about you!
Chrissy
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Thank you.
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Yes, that's what articles do? Sorry if I don't role over and play Switzerland, but I didn't write this to make friends, I wrote this because
this is a lifetime of my research, and it needed to be said. Besides,
all of my friends love it whether they believe it, or not, that's why
they're my friends. Life is about getting along without taking advantage
of one another, or killing each other, and often you don't get things the way you want them. This article is about the misgivings of organized religions,
and it's doing exactly what I expected it to do. excite some piss off others.
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Very informative. Great write.
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I loved this piece. It is sh*t stirring in the extreme and we need more pieces like this on here. Bravo!!!! Your research stood you in good stead and your opinions are hilarious. Your style of writing is thought provoking , filled to the last peppered mouthful as it is, with your opinions. I agree with most of your tenets and was quite pis**d to find that Ireland won't allow women in the masons here, qualified as I am in stonemasonery and wanting to follow in my great grnadfather's footsteps........I guess I couldn't shake hands using the proper leg !!!!!!!!
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this is awesome hehe
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I think you're confusing the lines of separation in Masonry.
I take it you are still young and a woman. Women are not
allowed to know about the higher orders of masonry the
Illuminati, also; some of the highest officers in hitler's closest
circles were in fact Jews and Masons and Catholics and Lutherans.
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I think the point being missed is that the article is a lot about the evils of men and war and very little about attacking a specific group for their beliefs. There is a larger picture here that is being missed. Can't see the forest for the trees.
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I am a Mason.
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You have no idea what Freemasonry is. My father is a past master. It has nothing to do with conspiracy or little "magic" trick. You need to do better research because you don't have much of a grasp on what Freemasonry really is. I'm not trying to put you down, I just think you need to talk to some real Masons before you judge them so quickly. Its good to be able to back up what you have to say with real information/facts. If you looked more closely with a neutral eye, you'd see it's nothing like what you assume.
Also, Freemasons cannot be linked in any way to Hitler. You know why? Because they were persecuted right along with the Jews/Gypsies/Homosexuals/Blacks etc. Freemasonry was outlawed and punishable by death.
Freemasonry also cannot be connected to the KKK (although I don't deny some Masons were members of the KKK) because it doesn't matter what your race/age/sexual orientation, as long as you believe in a supreme being, then you can be a member. There is no discrimination based on race.
Lastly, if you don't care about what the Freemasons do, why write a whole long "story" about them? It seems pointless to me.
You need more to back up your theories than you have here. This doesn't convince me in the least. But then again, around here, the Masons are actually nice people. What an irony.
Ciao,
Tru
Wow, that felt great getting my opinion out there. Btw, I'm not trying to bash you, I'm just saying you need to do much more research in order for you to have any solid opinion on this topic. You need more info before you write something as pedantic as this. -
I love the piece, and the only reason i ever read anything on allwrite was because jeremi was writing pieces.. His columns were the only thing worth reading. wiccan shmiccan...shut up and let him write what he wants. Oh and pull that magic wand out of your anus before it goes off.
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Wow. Thanks for all the interesting information. I m coming back to this and reading it again, and getting all the links. I think you are right about the underlying flaw- and unfortunately it is the underlying flaw with many men, and syystems in this world. Good research. One thing though you might find of interest. You said :Because,
you have to be asked to join the Masons by the Masons,
and then initiated in, you just can’t sign up at the door.
This may be true now, but 20 years ago and before that it was not true. They were always at county fares with a box and slip of paper promoting and ready to sign you up. I myself as a young child was told only men could join, so I signed up anyway- thinking it was unfair. Great research. First I've seen without the conspiracy element. -
You would think that you and the wiccans would get together,
and collectively charm yourselves a remedy to the steaming
pile of feces you call 'writing'. Pagans now a days are merely peasants
with dull feathers and bad mascara. I practice real magic, and
real writing, your attempt to come across as being 'informed'
is sadly missed in this case simply because it would be
an utter waste of my time to converse with someone that
knows little to nothing about either catagory.
Good day, and please refrain from contacting
me further, I'm not interested, that's why I quit, remember. -
I didn't get kicked anywhere.
I resigned, I quit, lol, and mostly because
I thought the majoritty of the writing at
your magazine was and is and will always be
of a poor standard. I can easilly show you the
yahoo messages between me and seraph showing
you otherwise, care to see? That way I can put you
in your place also.
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can dish it out but should be able to take it
Hey Jeremi,
What I know of Freemasonry I never was a fan of. I have Masons in my family. I don't find it fair to degrade Wiccans, while a lot of it is fluff and I am not Wiccan but a Witch, but I know many good and competent Wiccans, and I am part of a growing Pagan community on AP. Why diss belief systems that aren't your own because you see holes in them for yourself?
This piece was interesting as well as enlightening in spots, but I know it didn't belong in the format of AllWrite as it dissed certain groups, and it wasn't on topic...and That was why you got kicked to the curb, as they say, as opposed to quitting of your own accord...
I admire your writing, and your cutting edge wit. I think you could go far if you could just get your head out of your ass with this arrogance trip. Not everything is right because Horus says so. As a writer, you will continue to get rejections and inferences of your piece being innappropriate throughout your writing years. To assume that you can diss and misrepresent what happened is not good form, and it's not the first time I've witnessed your whining. The sooner you go find another soapbox the better. Not everyone's lining up to be your whipping post. Cute and talented alone doesn't make you invincible. We all could do well to learn a lesson in humility.
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well that was an interesting read and well written i think, for it held my attention. i've read somewhat on conspiracy theories, not much on freemasons. but it seems the more i study such topics, the more confuzzled i get.. cause you can never really know who's lying. maybe everyone. maybe you? or maybe some the stuff you've been taught/read about freemasons is just lies they planted. after all - they are a secret society, and you know how people keep secrets alot of times is by lying. i'm just saying. it was an enjoyable read though, and makes me wish i had more time to check out all the information. ~ turtlelight
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This is an interesting view of the mountain peeks, it's a pity the mountains can't be seen. So big the foundations.
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You did a good job writing it, but freemasonry is evil and of the devil.. May God have mercy upon each one of you that practice it and are involved in it. For the judgement day is coming.
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I think it is a very interesting piece.A few tears back i read an fiction novel based on the the freemason conspiracy, called " The Eight" by i believe Katerine Neville.Whle its basic premise is fiction it gives you something to think about.
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I thought this was a very well written informative article. I have my own theories about secret societies. I think you summed it all up well, its about greed and power. Great article. Queen
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Interesting
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This was the article I quit over.
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Very interesting article, compels me to possibly learn more about this..the heritage and the nowaday reality of it. I think this is well written..in a sense it feels biased, but I only say that because my knowledge of these groups beyond what you have told me here is limited, I don't know enough about it to say I believe this or I don't ..but I do think this is a fascinating article about groups that have interested me anyway.
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Still do, I quit the magazine because they wouldn't publish this.
They're going to replace my duties with lady wicca's doodie. That way there won't be a polar shift. Can you believe they thought this too
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Interesting...but you left out the Illuminati/Freemasonry ties. All quite intriguing as the stuff conspiracies are made of, but largely boring and quite mundane stuff in reality.
In a closer-knit time, the Masons did wield a lot of power through the good-old-boy network, but those days are gone now I think.
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This was a very informative piece. The Freemasons have been shrouded in mystery and alternately exposed for centuries. this was a very interesting column.
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Now this is very informative. My mom belonged to the Eastern Star, a branch of the Masons. My uncle was a thirty three and a third degree Mason who had a funeral that lasted all day because of the traditional rituals used in burial ceremonies. At one point, I left for about 2 hours and returned to the funeral to continued ritiuals still going on. My mom used to read her books in secret and they were all covered with paper bag book covers. I snuck and read one one day when I was young, but the symbolism and language was way above my head. She no longer attends Lodge functions and still doesn't alk about her involvemnent. For years it has been a mystery to me that I was very curious about. Thanks for unlocking some of the secrets. I am impressed with your knowledge.
Much Love,
Renee
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Hmm..I can't really say much about this because I'm not educated on this topic..but I must say, terrific write..like all your others. Keep it up. I'll be reading!
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wow you were at the 32nd degree? that's incredible. i'm glad you were able to see the light and get out of it while you could...i remember i was watching a parade a couple weeks ago and the shriners floats went by and everyone was cheering...because they didn't know who they are. i hate it when people don't know what things are, so they just assume they're ok...like freemasonry. dude, that stuff is a load of crap, like you said. isn't it dangerous to leave freemasonry though? i guess not, since you obviously are still alive...but i mean don't they hate you now?
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just so you know, warlock means traitor or oath breaker in old scottish, and any halfwit who calls himself one should be bitchslapped back to the prehistoric age. dumbfucks.
now to read the rest: being a "witch" for alot of people, i agree with you, is a fad, like bisexuality among teenage tweenytot girls. it's rather disgusting.
it hink, in most things, "secret clubs, with secret members" are used for the sole purpose to gain power, and to justify actions that would not necessarily be viewed as good.
It is in the greedy hearts and the crippled minds of the men that use it for all
the wrong reasons, The Cains of this world hunting down their brothers --
right down to the very last one
--these two sentences have to be two of my favorites in this whole article. nicely done. it's another great way to point out the flaw of "secret organizations" how they twist everything to serve their own greed.
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