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Meeting Old Poets and Earning Points - 6

So you say you want to read some old poetry? Well, then you have come to the right place!


Did you realize that OldPoetry has a discussion board? You can go there and suggest poets who may not have been added to the amazing list of writers who already exist. You can discuss your favorite poetry and offer suggestions. Why not go take a look and see what is going on over there. There might be something of interest that you had not previously considered. Curiousity piqued yet?



This week many of us observed the St. Patrick's Day Celebration. I am half Italian and half Irish. From the time I can remember, I can hear my Irish father saying..."Everyone is Irish on St. Patrick's Day!" This holiday was always a very significant one for me, obviously. This week's column will provide you with the history of St. Patrick, some wonderful Irish poetry...and, of course, a HUNT (see below) which relates to this theme.


Although we are all familiar with St. Patrick's Day, it seems many people have very little factual information regarding who "St. Patrick" really was. It's not all green beer and corned beef and cabbage! lol. Read on.


The man who has come to be known as St. Patrick is the patron saint of Ireland. He was born in Wales about AD 385.  His given name was Maewyn. He became the bishop of Ireland.

Prior to the age of 16, he considered himself a pagan. At that age, however, he was sold into slavery by a group of Irish marauders that raided his village. While in captivity, he became closer to God. He escaped from slavery after six years and went to Gaul where he studied in the monastery under St. Germain, bishop of Auxerre for twelve years. During this time, he came to believe that his calling was to convert the pagans to Christianity.

He wished to return to Ireland to convert the native pagans to Christianity, but his superiors appointed St. Palladius instead. Two years later, Palladius transferred and Patrick (who had adopted that Christian name earlier) was appointed as second bishop to Ireland.
Patrick was successful at winning converts and this upset the Celtic Druids. Patrick was arrested several times but always managed to escape.

He traveled throughout Ireland establishing monasteries across the country. Additionally, he set up schools and churches which would aid him in his conversion of the Irish country to Christianity.
His mission in Ireland spanned thirty years. After that time, Patrick finally retired to County Down. He died on March 17, AD 461. That day has been commemorated as St. Patrick's Day ever since.



Lore associated with St. Patrick's Day:

- There has been lore that includes the belief that Patrick raised people from the dead.
- The very popular story of how Patrick gave a sermon from a hilltop that drove all the snakes from Ireland. However, no snakes have ever been native to Ireland. Some believe this is a metaphor for the conversion of the pagans.


St. Patrick's Day was originally a Catholic holy day, however, over the years it has evolved into more of a secular holiday. One traditional icon of the day is the shamrock. This stems from a more bona fide Irish tale that tells how Patrick would use the three-leafed shamrock to explain the Trinity. His followers adopted the custom of wearing a shamrock on his feast day.

The St. Patrick's Day custom came to America in the year 1737. That was the first year the holiday was publicly celebrated in this country. The first celebration was held in Boston, Massachusetts.



Now that we all know a little bit more about St. Patrick, I would like to introduce everyone to some wonderful Irish poets. Why not take a few minutes to read each of these poems and comment on them:


1. I shall not Die for thee - Padriac Colum
oldpoetry.com/poetry/26217

2. Blackberry-picking - Seamus Heaney
oldpoetry.com/poetry/6401

3. Father and Child - William Butler Yeats
oldpoetry.com/poetry/17425

4. The Frog - Paul Muldoon
oldpoetry.com/poetry/23383

5. A Dream - William Allingham
oldpoetry.com/poetry/9519



HUNT TIME!

This week I am keeping it pretty simple. There are two very separate parts to this and both must be completed in order to receive the points.


Part I.

1. Go to OldPoetry. Be sure you are logged in.

2. Find 5 poems with the word "saint" within the text (not just the title).

3. Comment and critique each of these poems.

4. In a comment on this column, provide a link to each comment/critique you have done.

It should look like this example:

1. I shall not Die for thee - Padriac Colum
   oldpoetry.com/poetry/26217


Part II.

1. Write a limerick in honor of St. Patrick.

2. Add the limerick to your comment on this column along with the entry for Part I.


The first four people to complete both parts will receive 50 points! Plus, there is a hidden bonus within the column worth another 50 points.


Good Luck! Now go read some OLDPOETRY!


Unbridled1  





Disclaimer:

Part I. If your comments/critiques are mainly comprised of copying and pasting the poem itself into the comment, you will be disqualified and will not receive the points. I am looking for well done comments and critiques and not simply, "Wow, I loved this so much."

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  • Pari Ali
    April 7, 2004
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    this was such an interesting read UB you do a wonderful job with these columns and I know it is a fact that we have so many more readers at OP now than ever before and a lot of credit goes to your column. great going. I really loved all the info about St patrick it was more interesting becaue I studied at a St patrick convent in India. strangely the principal of that school (which is in a remote place) at present is the best friend of the principal in my childrens school in Kuwait that was so strange I did read about the slavery bit before but did not know about the rest and the part about the shamrock that was so enlightening always wondered about that.

  • Carole Dudley
    March 30, 2004
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    Hi Unbridled - Thanks for your interesting challenge. The opening page shows the assignment still open. But I enjoyed reading the poems anyway, so nobody looses!

  • Carole Dudley
    March 30, 2004
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    From Limerick sailed a gay lassie,
    Who loved all the boys, but was sassy.
    Her mother said, "Molly,
    Your conduct is folly,
    Your tongue is ahead of your chassis.

  • Carole Dudley
    March 30, 2004
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    Two Husbands - Robert Service/Old Poetry.com/poetry/
    The Shivering Beggar - Robert Graves/old poetry.com/poetry/
    By That Lake Whose Gloomy Shore - Thomas Moore/Old Poetry.com/poetry/
    Footsteps of Angels - Henry Wadsworth Longfellow/old poetry.com/poetry/
    Her Triumph - William Butler Yeats/old poetry.com/poetry/

  • Unbridled1
    March 26, 2004
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    You are more than welcome! I truly appreciate your participation and hope you will continue to follow the columns and read OldPoetry!

    UB

  • sanity silver member
    March 26, 2004
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    Thankyou, i really enjoyed this, thank you for taking the time to set the challenges.......

    Take care

    Sanity.

  • Old Poetry gold member
    March 26, 2004
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    Unfortunately, only 3 people chose to do the HUNT this time around...so only 3 people get the points. Jazzi47, sanity and Nam will each receive 50 points for finding 5 poems with the word "saint"...commenting on each of the five and also composing a limerick. As far as the limericks go...that part was just for fun!


    Now, the bonus points. The secret bonus was really no secret. It is something i request everytime i post a new column, but that few people rarely do. The points were to go to the person who took the time to read each of the spotlight poems i listed in the column and comment on them. Jazzi47 did this first and will receive the bonus points. However, I decided that since sanity also read each and commented and we only had 3 entrants for the actual hunt...i will give sanity the bonus points too!

    Thank you all for participating in Column 6. I hope you had fun and found some interesting reads at OldPoetry. Look for the next column to be added over the weekend.

    Now...GO READ SOME OLDPOETRY!


    Unbridled1

  • Nam
    March 22, 2004
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    Oh, and the reason why your links aren't showing is because you hit 'edit' once you do that, special features (most of them) don't work anymore. You have to copy your entire comment with special features in place - delete your comment then repost it.

    I know this because it happens to me all the time.



  • Nam
    March 22, 2004
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    I went to a website on how to write a limerick, that is all it told me aabba that's it. Nothing about syllables nothing about whatever. Just the aabba.

    But, I can re-write mine if it is needed. But, the rules stipulate '1. Write a limerick in honor of St. Patrick.' to do that.

    It doesn't stipulate 'write a traditional Limerick.' So, if UB1 tells me I must write a 'Traditional one' then I will abide. But, she just says write a Limerick.

    I went to a website on the internet to make sure how to write a Limerick and all it said was AABBA. That's it.



  • Unbridled1
    March 22, 2004
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    truth be told...i am not sure...i will have to check into it more...

    it seems as though you have it posted right...and i did a test comment here using your link and it came up clickable in my comment. It makes it easier if it is clickable, but as long as the entire address is there, i can access it. Hakuna Matata!

    UB

  • sanity silver member
    March 22, 2004
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    Now please tell me why in my original comment I cannot get the links to come up so you can click on them it's really frustrating me, My last comment I managed to do it so you could click........tell me what I'm doing wrong........

    Sanity.

  • sanity silver member
    March 22, 2004
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    Another guess then on the hidden bonus, does it have something to do with the shamrock, there is a poem by an irish poet oldpoetry.com/poetry/23789 Thomas Moore - Oh, the Shamrock

    Just an idea.......Take care

    Sanity.

  • Unbridled1
    March 22, 2004
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    sanity, you can take as many guesses as you want.

    UB

  • sanity silver member
    March 22, 2004
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    Can we have more than one guess at the hidden bonus, just wondering cause I have another idea.........

    Take care
    Sanity.

  • sanity silver member
    March 22, 2004
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    I think you'll find you've written your limerick wrong too Nam......The limerick is supposed to be

    A Limerick is a rhymed humorous or nonsense poem of five lines which originated in Limerick, Ireland.
    The Limerick has a set rhyme scheme of : a-a-b-b-a with a syllable structure of: 9-9-6-6-9 or similar structure as long as lines 1,2 and 5 are the same syllable count and lines 3 and 4 are the same syllable count but shorter than the others it can be classed as a limerick.




    Edited on Mar 22, 5:02 because 'Typo gremlins are back!!!!!!!!!!!'.

  • Nam
    March 20, 2004
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    Okay, here's my guess. You, in the beginning quote "St. Patricks" day. So I found 1 single poem that has 'St. Patricks' in it

    The Wake of Tim O'Hara - William Cosmo Monkehouse
    www.oldpoetry.com/poetry/27755

    That's my guess.



  • Nam
    March 20, 2004
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    I really do not know what your hidden thing is. I looked for a extra question, I checked St. Patrick's real name in oldpoetry etc, I just can't find whatever it is that is 'hidden' in the Column.

    Oh well, so, who's going to tell Jazzi47 that they wrote their Limerick wrong?


    It's AABBA I believe. So it said on the internet.
    I believe Jazzi47 just has AABB



  • Nam
    March 20, 2004
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    1. His Prayer to Ben Johnson - Robert Herrick
    www.oldpoetry.com/poetry/735

    2. By That Lake, Whose Gloomy Shore - Thomas Moore
    www.oldpoetry.com/poetry/23775

    3. Sunday Chimes in the City - Louise Imogen Guiney
    www.oldpoetry.com/poetry/9368

    4. A Certain Man - Jean Toomer
    www.oldpoetry.com/poetry/13276

    5. My Indigo - Li-Young Lee
    www.oldpoetry.com/poetry/16560

    (I thought I had already commented on the last one, woo, nope!)


    I once saw me a Leprachaun,
    I felt that he was just a con,
    And when I stole his gold,
    Oh how he grew cold,
    So I started to run and hide behind my friend shawn.

    (I don't write these good, never have)

  • My Nemesis
    March 20, 2004
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    Oh yeah..the 50 points. I had that in my original post, forgot to put this back in.

    I thought it might be this poem:
    The Frog - Paul Muldoon
    oldpoetry.com/poetry/23383
    This poem was not written until 1983, not someone I would consider for oldpoetry.
  • Desiree Darkk
    March 20, 2004
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    Another great OP search UB. Good luck to all who enter. Nice to see some little knows Irish poets in the spotlight.

    Desiree

  • sanity silver member
    March 20, 2004
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    I don't know what the hidden bonus on the column is, but I am taking a wild guess, is it because the word hunt is in capital letters? and we were supposed to find someone called hunt in oldpoetry and comment on it, I did find one poet last name Hunt some very good poetry, I especially liked the one

    Song of Fairies Robbing an Orchard
    by James Henry Leigh Hunt which I commented on although not too successfully........I am probably barking completely up the wrong tree, but that was all I could see.



    Edited on Mar 20, 6:02 because ''.

  • My Nemesis
    March 19, 2004
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    AHHHHHHH...I lost it all. I had it almost done. Oh well, starting over.

    His Prayer to Ben Jonson, Robert Herrick
    http://oldpoetry.com/poetry/735

    Two Husbands, Robert W. Service
    http://oldpoetry.com/poetry/20584

    Genial Impulse, Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
    http://oldpoetry.com/poetry/28097

    Saint, Revolutionist, Delmore Schwartz
    http://oldpoetry.com/poetry/18430

    Sunday Chimes in The City, Louise Imogen Guiney
    http://oldpoetry.com/poetry/9368

    Limerick:

    There was a man at Down
    Who once was thought a clown
    Until the day he raised the dead
    And repeated a feast of 5,000 with bread.

    (I know...taking a huge liberty here,but that was all I could think of that rhymed with dead.)

  • sanity silver member
    March 19, 2004
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    Right, now I think I have done everything asked, I have read and commented, hopefully to your satisfaction, I have written the limerick and posted the links, so I think that's everything........

    Two Husbands by Robert W Service
    http://oldpoetry.com/poetry/20584
    Genial Impulse by Johann Wolfgang Von Goethe
    http://oldpoetry.com/poetry/28097
    Transfiguration by John Henry Newman, Cardinal
    http://oldpoetry.com/poetry/5423
    The shivering Beggar By Robert Graves
    http://oldpoetry.com/poetry/22924
    To Groves by Robert Herrick
    http://oldpoetry.com/poetry/3072

    Now for the limerick:

    Heard told there was a young man from Wales
    Of whom now there are so many tales
    From slavery escaped
    And his life he reshaped
    So now a saint with god's help prevails

    Take care

    Sanity.

    Edited on Mar 22, 3:53 p.m. because ''.

  • Beauty Sleeps
    March 19, 2004
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    Interesting... If I weren't slacking off at work and using the boss's computer instead of working, I would try this! But unfortunatly... well, you know my story. Great idea though! Congrats to those that win!
    Kate
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