Be Safe :Be Secure
So do you think it is good internet security to flash everybodies email address in public?
Obviously the answer for 'Allpoetry Staff'is yes, as they have removed my earlier comments on the subject!!!
I would've thought of offering my services to this project(AP newsletter), as I have experience of writing & editing a monthly magazine in print for one of the groups in my locality, I am also a published poet and have successfully finished my third book... but...
the pettiness and childish antics from the so called "staff" in AP that respond to any queries or comments I make or questions I ask is similiar to what I see and hear when I take my grandson to playschool ( he's 2years old),
and this 'scares' me.
In these times when 'internet abuse' and 'internet grooming' of youngsters is a major problem worldwide, I honestly can't understand that Allpoetry is a site where members are encouraged to 'adopt' and 'teach' younger members of the site into an acceptable way of writing poetry but are these 'adopters' vetted - NO!!!
It is left to the youth/adoptee to make up his/her own mind as to whether or not it is safe.
Before everyone jumps on their high horses and says that the youth of today have a right to make their own way in life, I would like to point out that I have two members from AP who I advise and 'chat' to when going over their works and have probably learned much more about them than 'APStaff' themselves know about these people. Neither of these trusting youths knew of me prior to them asking for help from me, and since then I have email addresses, names of their hometown, where they hangout (and the point of my rant as you'll probably call it) most of all how young they really are!!!
(not all the 'adults' on this site are infact adults, but I know that doesn't surprise you!)
The point of this column is to protect your rights of internet security and to ensure that the internet remains fun and educational for everybody who uses it.
By displaying an email address or personal details online anywhere could result in more than you would expect, one prime example is the amount of spam through your email letterbox, one of which could be the next virus carrier, and the worst that could happen is as was explained in my comments (but you werent allowed to read those because they've been removed by AP)
Be Safe :Be Secure
ali-pread this before it too gets removed...
Added by Kevin:
1) Ap Magazine and Yearbook have no official association with AP, besides that we may use their products once they're done with them.
2) AP encourages people to never post their email address online, as that will quickily result in them getting spam. Actual danger is very little, but you should always be careful with whom you share your personal information.
3) Contrary to conspiracy theories, we only remove posts that break our rules.
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i think this article brings up some good points, bt none that we don't know already........
i know before my parents even hooked up the internet they talked to me for like an hour on internet safety
so, i think that while, yeah, its dangerous sometimes, but ,we kids for the most part know what were doing
just because some people were stupid doesn't mean we all are, and just because we are kids doesn't mean we don't know how to be safe. dont judge all of us by one or two examples. its just as dangerous for adults, i mean, who cares if you're 6 feet tall, that doesn't make you anyless voulnerable ot spam, and its still dangerous to meet people. i've seen a ton of adultss on here who post their emails, and, a ton of aduls that meet people over the internet. say this is inernet safetey for all, because its no less dangerous for adults!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
so-chan
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"The point of this column is to protect your rights of internet security and to ensure that the internet remains fun and educational for everybody who uses it."
it seems to me, that the point of this column, is for users to hear your loud rant. cut the crap, learn of what you speak, and foremost, if you have any legitimate complaints concerning anybody whom you think is threatened or otherwise unsafe, quickly bring your problems to a legitimate site moderator. -
Also, I would like to state that neither the AP Yearbook or AP magazine are allpoetry staff, again we are talking about independant projects. They use the title AP simply because they are doing it for the site. They have Kevin's permission to DO these projects, but they are not allpoetry staff. They are independant poet's doing projects for and about the site. You make many assumptions. I am sorry to hear you had a run in or felt that the security of users on this site was compromised, but in fact, it isn't ...from what I know..the email addresses were edited out of the comments, for the security of users.
But I would like to state again, this has nothing to do with Allpoetry Staff, but independant users using the AP name. -
People's email addy's are not automatically public. Those people who make theirs public put it on their page on their own. In fact, there was even a warning on the front page a couple of days ago discouraging people from posting their email addy's both because of internet preditors and because of spam spiders. I'm not certain what you are refering to here.
Furthermore, the adopt-a-poet thing has nothing to do with AP staff. We have banned people who were clearly (to us) predatory towards young people, and we will again, if it is clear.
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Well, for starters I would like to say that "AP Staff" does not do the adoption here, it is an independant user who started this to do something nice and 'protective' for these young people you speak about.
Not sure what you mean about email addresses, as Allpoetry does not give out the email addresses of anyone ..to anyone. So, what you are talking about I am really unsure.
I personally, have not responded to any of your queries, so your accusations of 'pettiness' mean very little to me. I am not sure what this is really about, but if you would like to discuss with me via IM I would gladly try and answer any questions. -
yea, i feel you. I really agree with laurili about the advisory
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I think you are correct with this. I've even noticed a couple so called adults talking to my daughter who's also on ap but doesn't live with me, he told her he was naked. This was after he knew she was only 16. That's wrong and be sure I made my voice be heard, or my font read as it were. I think that most adults on AP are safe but you NEVER KNOW My daughter had her hometown up...which is a very small town, I made her take it down asap. You just don't do that. I am glad you stuck up for these kids who although they think they can trust everyone they can't. Anyway great column...glad you wrote it, glad I read it. I have a feeling I know who you were talking about but...I wouldn't say anything either.
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with the internet, it's really hard to say things like 'leave it up to the parents to protect their kids' cause i swear my nephew is three and knows stuff i don't about computers (no joke!)
a little scary. i'm not sure what all this adopting a poet is about but it sounds like they might want to slap on an advisory about public meet-ups, if for anything, legal reasons alone. but really it's the safty of people who might make unwise choices (and thats really not just young people).
my name is mud.
much respect.
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BRAVO Ali-p! BRAVO! I feel the same way about a lot of your points here.
I am a "poet parent" here at AP. I am one because I want to help out. I do that by giving honest comments and helpful hints of how I believe someone’s work might be improved upon. It’s their choice to follow it or not. I’ve had suggestions made on some of my work, and I’ve taken them, and I have not. That’s what is so great about choices.
Most everyone who knows me here really does know me. My niece is on here; a buddy from work is on here. So what I say I am, I really am. There are scumbags on here too, who like to play the games and do and say horrible things. But there are also really great people, like the two of us for an example. It’s kind of like life outside of the Internet, right?
What I am trying to say is, it’s great that you put this here for people to read, and I think it is such a shame that it sometimes is deemed inappropriate by the powers that be.
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good for you Colleen yes I garee they are stupid.
hope you remember some of your advice when you go to the states next year! -
"but i dont think there is too much harm in letting some one help you out with your poems.", nor me if we can ensure the safety of others.
no disrespect is intended but I am 44 you are 14 what if your 13 was really much older and you arranged a meet much later and only then did you discover the age difference...how would you feel then?
I know the odds of that are very unlikely but following the deaths of the girls who went missing here in the UK after meeting "friends" from the internet, I'm sure the comment -it wouldn't happen to me- was in the minds then aswell...???
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interesting "article" i have my contact information up (email) on my author page and i have yet to recieve much spam email at all. i know that alot of people lie about their age but i suppose one thing is if you give out all kinds of information you are only responsible for your OWN actions. i havent met anyone horrible on here and in fact i have made a few friends. i am an adopter, i am only 14 but i comment and help a 13 year old. i dunno maybe i missed the real point there. but i dont think there is too much harm in letting some one help you out with your poems.
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well...umm...really its those kids choices to tell you and hope that you're not a stalker...not everyone does that...I give out my name and the state I live in but nothing else...it all depends on the person and really on a site like this what are the chances that some stalker person is gunna be looking for kids to molest? The idea of adoption is new and there are much easier sites like chat/forum sites to pick up ppl...so really on the internet there's always a risk but isn't life a whole big risk? if somebody gives out their hometown and spots they like to hangout in to a total stranger then they're stupid but is that really the majority?
***Colleen***
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