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Plagiarism & Stealing Art.

'Give credit where credit is due'

 

 

"To avoid plagiarism, you must give credit whenever you use

  • another person’s idea, opinion, or theory;
  • any facts, statistics, graphs, drawings—any pieces of information—that are not common knowledge;
  • quotations of another person’s actual spoken or written words; or
  • paraphrase of another person’s spoken or written words."

Taken from Plagiarism: What It is and How to Recognize and Avoid It

 

 

 

Artwork. Using artwork in contest, in poetry and on your page without permission or due credit is illegal. You are stealing art. It is not acceptable to say you don't know where the art is from - you are not only making yourself to be abusing someone else's work but you are bringing down Allpoetry with you in the art community. 

 

How do you like your works to be plagiarized or stolen. Start the trend - do not steal art in any form.

 

 

 

Including and not limited to::-

  • Photography
  • Paintings
  • Poetry
  • Prose

 

  

In closing; don't abuse privileges to be able to post art with words - it's close to becoming extinct. 

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  • Immortal Obscurity Greeters member
    March 2, 2008
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    I always credit the artist when the person's name [or pseudonym] is known, though I have occasionally Googled images to illustrate poems, etc., with no idea who the artist is. This, I think, is fine, as long as you do NOT try and pass off the work as your own, which I can proudly say I've never done.

    I do not claim to own the images, and if someone asked me to remove them, I certainly would. But what of those who come across a picture with no known artist? Just figured I'd share my thoughts on this oft-disputed subject.


  • Mairi bheag gold member
    February 24, 2008
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    More thoughts.

    This diktat goes too far. By its rules, every time we trot out a cliche which has become part of the English language, such as "Needs must when the devil drives", "Pride comes before a fall", we would have to add that they were from, respectively, Shakespeare's "All’s Well that Ends Well" act i. sc. 3, and the Bible, Proverbs 16:18, even though they are misquotaions or paraphrases. Every time we tell someone that the square on the hypotenuse of a right-angled triangle is equal to the sum of the square on the other two sides, we will have to intone "Pythagoras". And we will never be able to say, in any discussion on philosophy, that awareness proves existence, without being obliged to mention Descartes.

    Recently, in a literary quiz on BBC Radio, contestants were asked to name the famous novels which started:

    "It is..."

    "It was..." and

    "The clocks..."

    They successfully identified Jane Austen's "Pride and Prejudice", Charles Dickens' "Tale of Two Cities", and George Orwell's "1984". God forbid I should ever have to say "It is - as Jane Austen said - raining outside", or "The clocks - George Orwell, y'know - need winding"!

    I am sorry, but this is the kind of thinking which led, this century, to the patenting of naturally-occurring genetic material. It goes too far.

    Many borrowings do sail perilously close to plagiarism, true. But they are also tributes to familiar things, familiar without further identification... imitations, as sincere flattery... satire and lampoon, which only serve to illuminate their target.

    After all, "the mair they talk, the mair I'm kent".

    (Oh, that was Robert Burns, by the way... or not, as the case may be. It could just have been a random sentence, said by anyone, in the guid Scots tongue.)


  • annamoy
    February 23, 2008
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    I certainly wouldn't nick anyone else's written work, but do admit to using pics to illustrate my poems sometimes, but I think of it as "borrowing" and if anyone asked me to refrain from using them or delete them then obviously I would.


  • haikumonk gold member
    February 23, 2008
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    Bravo!


  • WoundedPrincess
    February 23, 2008
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    i just hope none of my poetry is copied..... i like getting credit for MY work......i dont want other people to steal that....

  • xtra-ordinare
    February 23, 2008
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    I have plagiarised many people's work pass it over to friends just 2 gain appraisals! but I stopped doing it when my bis sista told me she knows my creative abilities & that work was just too just & well organised to be mine.

  • Westley
    February 23, 2008
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    Plagiarism is is sad, I mean to pass off someone else's work as your own is a losers game - why bother?

    However, I do not care about copyright in general as it is really a capitalist idea that protects the wealth of publishers, etc (of course, it's not that simple).

    But, credit where it's due. If you use someone's work it should be a pleasure to point this out.


  • frownsnfreckles
    February 23, 2008
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    I think at the very least it is rather pathetic that someone is obviously so untalented themselves, they need to pass off others work as their own. How sad is that!!!!


  • outtahere
    February 22, 2008
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    What a bunch of precious wankers. If someone steals my poetry word for word then I'll sue. If I have done the same to others then I'll happily apologise and pull the poem. All words are built upon words. Good luck in trying to figure out where it all starts and finishes.
    Harden the fuck up.


  • -Rosie-
    February 22, 2008
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    agreed:3


  • MaMa-2-be-Cindy
    February 22, 2008
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    I agree with aeverything said
    Thanks for sharing something important


  • Grimoire
    February 22, 2008
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    Indeed. I agree, especially about artwork.


  • Elrenia
    February 22, 2008
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    If using an idea is plagiarism, does that mean that no two people can come up with the same idea? That hardly seem plausible. I have read many books based on the same premise. I would not accuse them of plagiarism. It just seem that ideas cannot be copyrighted. Unless of course, they are truly unique. In this day and age, I find that concept implausible.


    • galfalfa gold member
      February 23, 2008
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      I agree , i dont think you can give credit for an idea, for who knows how many before you have come up with the same idea?
      For example i wrote a Lumberjack poem and everyone who read it compared it with Monty Python's...did i steal it, no - i am not familar with Monty Python's works at all. '
      I think the idea warning is going a little overboard...

      galfalfa


  • grannyeri gold member
    February 22, 2008
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    Well written; easy to read and understand. Had a couple of my poems taken and copied on another site by someone saying it was her poetry. Got caught, thank goodness. We often take pictures though and do not give credit to who took them or what site they are from.


  • Never Fall in Love
    February 22, 2008
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    Brilliantly said


  • MuddyKing
    February 22, 2008
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    Well said, and a huge credit to AP and its members.
    In the blog everthing world, this is refreshing and needed.
    thanks
    peace Muddy


  • maralisa silver member
    February 22, 2008
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    thankyou for the column of advise i will keep it in mind in future if i use any of the above said


  • Rose Dark Thorn silver member
    February 22, 2008
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    Personally, I am completely against art stealing and plagarism. I would never intentionally do that to another person.

    However, I do find pictures that I post with poems, or use in backgrounds I have made without giving credit, and it is often because I do not know the artist because I find almost everything on photobucket. There is often no credit given there, and no, I do not usually put artist unknown...but even so, I am still not claiming another's artwork as my own. If someone were to ask where I got the picture, or if I created it, I would tell them the truth.

    It doesn't always come to mind to put such a thing in the notes, and many people on this site are guilty of that. However, I still don't think it is actually plagarism or stealing. It is just simple ignorance, a misunderstanding, or a mistake.

    And I am certainly not about to go through my 1000 posts on here and go back and try to credit the artist or say I don't know who they are. Who has the time for that?


  • Ephiphany
    February 22, 2008
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    Very great points. Thank You

    I have made it a point to put the arthors info or at least acknowledge such.

    Very great colum. It does make a differnce in marking accordingly.
    Ephiphany♥


  • thelordreigns gold member
    February 22, 2008
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    I always add a link to the artwork I add to my poetry. I have also asked and gotten permission to use those pieces which I know are personal artwork.

    Perhaps Kevin could add another step to the picture attaching process - a step where the link is added when the picture is added. He could also add a reminder that attribution is required when attaching graphics.

    Thanks for bringing this issue to AP's attention again.


  • Frodofan silver member
    February 22, 2008
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    I don't see how it is unacceptable to not know where it came from. Someone may be able to tell you and THEN you can put up the credit.


    • Naridill
      February 22, 2008
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      If you don't know - you should state that or make the decision not to post it.

  • Suzanne Dia
    February 22, 2008
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    You're da bomb.


  • Star Shine
    February 22, 2008
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    I am glad to see this column and the stern message, and the reminder. I will go back and make sure all the artwork I use has a link. Many cliparts and others on internet webpages give the info on how to use it freely on your own pages or creations. Thanks for this timely message.


  • hoodoolover silver member
    February 22, 2008
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    I am so glad to see this column as I try to preach this very fact as well. There is always always a link when one finds art online, I don't care what they say. At the very least the link should be available, thanks for posting this important message!


  • transcendental baby gold member
    February 22, 2008
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    I'm a mangy pirate all right ... I forget to get the artist's name when I use his/her images with my poems. I am dutifully chastised and will try to mend my survy-infested ways


  • katzmeow13
    February 22, 2008
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    I use my own photography... unless it was a picture prompt, but in the future I will do my best to give credit or at the very least put artist unknown when using the work posted as a prompt.
    Thanks,
    Kat


  • SilverButterfly gold member
    February 22, 2008
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    I am guilty as charged! Although I am not intentionally seeking to steal others artwork, I have failed many times over in crediting the owners of the photos I pick for my poetry. I have done it..when I remember to..but that isn't good enough!

    Thank you for reminding me that I need to do this from now on. I will start anew and do the right thing!!!


  • black lagoon x
    February 22, 2008
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    Very true.I'm glad i give credit nice work


  • garbait
    February 22, 2008
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    Some of us pour our souls onto paper. To rob ones soul is an unspeakable crime. I'd rather you steal my wallet than my mind.
    I would never knowingly do this to another. So if I ever make this mistake someone please slap me to my senses.


  • xkadiex
    February 22, 2008
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    good


  • wakingdevil
    February 22, 2008
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    Credited nearly every1 Thanks a lot for the column...makes a lot of sense when ppl put it this way


  • Namita
    February 22, 2008
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    you deserve this for doing this

  • Mairi bheag gold member
    February 22, 2008
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    Succinct throughout.

    Arguable in places.

    Holier-than-thou in places.

    But all needed bringing out into the open. Causes me to rethink how I use quotations and illustrations, which was what you intended. Thank you. Worthy of applause.
    Mb

    PS My avatar is "The Crystal Ball" by John William Waterhouse (1849-1917). I believe it to be out of copyright.


  • Fug-azi
    February 22, 2008
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    tough subject, I wonder how many of us have used a picture, phrase or quote without crediting the author without even realising it. I would say that if I have done this accidently I would appreciate someone telling me ... it could be quite easy to write a line that potrays an image using similar wording that another has used, we are all writers and a lot of our thought processes are on the same track.
    I certainly don't go out looking for things to copy, but it has happened a few times to me where I have used a set of words only to find they are already being used.

    Good column though


  • Tattboyspet
    February 22, 2008
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    Yes, I agree (and considering as I do most of my contests on picture inspired, I think I have the right to an opinion)
    I do, however, picture google for things under different categories, e.g. sceneries and most of the time when the picture comes up there is no credit to be given which leaves me at a loss.
    After all my surfing I have NOW come across an artist that I really enojoy and I have actually opened a file with his name and when I DO use his art I will definitely give the artist credit.
    I'm not sure whether others actually go and find art by a certain artist, but speaking for myself, I don't do that sort of thing - I google pictures.
    Does this mean that I should stop putting up pictures in my contests because I do not know who to give credit to?


    • hoodoolover silver member
      February 22, 2008
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      There is always a link when you find something online, at the very minimum that can be done!


    • Naridill
      February 22, 2008
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      Or just state unknown credit - so if some one knows they can let you know. Well I think anyway.

  • U.g.l.y.
    February 22, 2008
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    I don't like stealing other people's work because I also won't like it when someone steals mine, but there's something better you can do, which consists on basing yourself upon the bases your favorite artists give you and inspire yourself from that. I like doing that, and I guess most of you do that too. Just take care when doing so, a rewrite is very close to plagiarism.


  • StormGoddess Greeters member
    February 22, 2008
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    Just because I like to stir the pot...

    While crediting artists at most points is valid, there are those, as stated, that are available for use without such credits. Blah blah blah.
    But what I really wanted to drive at...
    how many people will post to this thread, and I will bet more than half of them have some kind of avatar that is, or should be, a credited piece of art.

    Just an interesting tidbit to ponder.


    • Naridill
      February 22, 2008
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      No, I agree.
      And Iced Raiyn - among others credit there aviator in there authors page.


  • Solo Wisp gold member
    February 21, 2008
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    I agree and disagree.

    There are artists out there that submit art for free use, hence the possiblity of an unknown credit. Also, if the artist is unknown, and by happenstance the true artist comes across the work he/she created, this gives a chance for that particular piece of art to be recognized and properly credited, if the author of the supposed stolen piece submits credit.

    I do realize that these things that I speak of are more than likely the minority.

    Does the stealing of 'known' art become a problem for the stealer and the hosting site. Yes, most definitely. Is it fair to claim unknown art to your credit. Absolutely NOT. It should be credited so that it is known that the origin of the artist is unknown. Is it fair to shoot down the pieces that have an unknown artist? I don't think so. That does a disservice to the unknown artist, if he/she feels the need to come forward.

    -Min-


  • scentedrose
    February 21, 2008
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    I just posted a column about learning to read music. I put the link in for fellow poets to read
    and would have put a name but none was provided.
    I did what I could to give credit to this person.

    It's funny that I bumped into this colomn right after posting mine.


  • Tirrell
    February 21, 2008
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    words of wisdom so very true.


  • AliceinPoetryLand gold member
    February 21, 2008
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    Excellent advice!
    I don't think I have ever done it.
    Gaylene


  • JinSays gold member
    February 21, 2008
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    You're absolutely right. Thank you for the smack in the forehead. I have noticed it too. If I have done it, then it's a careless mistake, but wrong none the less. Thank you for the reminder.
    Peace,
    T


  • Concrete Angel silver member
    February 21, 2008
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    It's nice to give this advise to the community... informational for those who don't know they must acknowledge another's art. I, and several other poets here, were once vistims of a fellow poet stealing our work and actually posting it under their name at another site. Someone who frequented both sites noticed their work stolen and let everyone else know. The thief wasn't even bright enough to use a different name between the two sites. Being an artist as well as a poet I try to be respectful to other artists as well. It's just wrong when you KNOW you shouldn't be doing.
    One thing I have to say negative about this column... you almost sound like you're scolding everyone here, kinda getting on to them *srug* that's just how some of ti came off to me.

    • Naridill
      February 21, 2008
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      Just trying to be honest and slightly intense. Some people don't believe they are doing anything wrong.

      No bad intentions intended.


  • Kari gold member
    February 21, 2008
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    I HIGHLY appreciate you doing this and I must say I'm very impressed. Thank you for taking time and posting this column.


  • Cerulean Sunrise gold member
    February 21, 2008
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    Thanks for the educating contest.

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