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Protect Your Poetry from Plagiarism

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This column is for those of you who would like to protect your work against plagiarists .. I have compiled a few methods that I use myself which are very effective in protecting my work .. I hope they can be of use to you ..

Using Google Alerts to Fight Plagiarism:

 

Rather than painstakingly searching the web for plagiarists who may have stolen your poetry .. use google alerts .. it's free and easy to set up, but is time consuming, however it is worth it in the long run ..

 

What are google alerts? .. Google Alerts are emails automatically sent to you when there are new Google results for your search terms

 

Setting up these alerts is simple, but as I mentioned above time consuming .. here is a step by step guide to help you protect your work against plagiarism:

 

1. Go to set up your google alerts account .. go to www.google.com/alerts

2. You will need to set up an account .. use an email address that you check on a regular basis .. I use a yahoo mail address

 

3. Once you have created your account .. you can start adding search terms to be spidered on a regular basis .. it is important to verify your google account before you reach your tenth search term, otherwise it won't add anymore for you .. you only have to do this once!

 

4. It's impossible to place a whole poem into the search terms .. therefore you need to select bits and pieces of your poem .. I usually take parts from each stanza of a poem .. something that is unique .. I'll use Plath's poem 'Child' as an example

 

please note that when you add your search term you need to enclose the term within double quotes .. you will see the example below.. this tells google to search for the exact sequence of words, rather than jumbling the words, otherwise you'll get a million alerts in your email box

 

Child by Sylvia Plath

 

Your clear eye is the one absolutely beautiful thing.
I want to fill it with color and ducks,
The zoo of the new
Whose name you meditate —
April snowdrop, Indian pipe,
Little

Stalk without wrinkle,
Pool in which images
Should be grand and classical

Not this troublous
Wringing of hands, this dark
Ceiling without a star.

 

okay now what you need to do if this were your poem or what Sylvia would do if she were alive today (bless her cotton pickins) .. is you would extract parts of the poem like this ..

 

"I want to fill it with color and ducks"

 

"The zoo of the new whose name you meditate"

 

"April snowdrop, Indian pipe"

 

"Stalk without wrinkle"

 

"Pool in which images should be grand and classical"

 

"this dark ceiling without a star"

 

That may seem over the top .. and you may only choose to put in the first couple, however I like to protect myself .. everyone is different .. and I would recommend taking your unique voice and the parts that no body else could have written in the world .. and place them as a search term .. plagiarists are sneaky .. and you need to be sneakier .. and you need to do this with every single poem you want to protect .. I have pages and pages of alerts in my account at google ..

 

You also need to set the little box next to the search term to 'Web' not 'News' .. otherwise google will only search news sites for your terms .. and you can then set the alert to how often you will be notified .. once a day, once a week or as it happens .. I have mine set to once a day ..

 

Then it's just a matter of waiting for the email alerts to roll in .. you'll find your own allpoetry pages are some of the first to come into your inbox .. this is a good sign .. and means that you've put the search terms in correctly ..

 

Other ways that I personally protect my work:

 

1. When I have completed a poem .. I always take a copy of it before posting it anywhere .. I place it in an envelope .. seal it up .. address it to myself, write the name of the poem on the back of the envelope .. stamp it and then I go put it in the mail ..

Why do I do this? .. because if my work is ever stolen by anyone .. I have proof .. a sealed envelope with a datemark on the front of it that contains my piece of work in my own handwriting safely inside .. just don't open it when it's delivered to you .. chances are, this will stand up in a court of law if you ever need it in future .. when you start posting things on the internet and submitting them willy nilly all over the place, it's always good to have a back up ..

 

2. I have a forum that is only viewable by myself .. I realise that not all of us have access to forums, but there are millions of free blog sites on the web that offer privacy options, where no one else can view your work .. I always add my pieces to my private forum before posting it out in the public eye .. this way I have a time stamp and date stamp on the piece that I have posted and you can generally easily prove that you'd posted it long before the plagiarist with this method ..

 

another good reason to use this method, is that if anything were to happen to your home computer, then you always have a safe place to find your work on the internet .. trust me, this method has saved my neck in the past

 


Final Note:

I hope this column helps those of you who would like to take the extra few steps to protect your work from plagiarists .. it truly is worth it ..

if you find this column useful please let me know .. it makes writing these columns seem a little more worthwhile, if I know what you think or if there are other areas that you think I may be able to improve this piece for others .. thanks

I just received this comment from Catz which I think is very helpful:

catz 7 minutes ago  
the catz on the prowl .....again !!!!! 12034 critiques, 196 poems. (moderator) Currently online. said:
I think you've written a very useful column, antique. Even though as a moderator we often use the web search to varify plaegerism, and I've even found my own poetry on the web for the fun of it, (posted just under my own name, fortunatly, I guess no one fonds my poetry good enough to steal ...lol) I hadn't thought to use the web to protect my writings as you've suggested here. and since I have only a zillion things to do on a regular basis, I should get started on this right away  

You also referred to using the mail to protect our work. I knew about this avenue but I was told a long time ago, by I don't remember who.... to take the stamped envelope with poetry inclosed directly to the clerk at the post office, have them put the Post Office cancellation in various places on the envelope, any place where it could be opened, like along the seams, etc. Then just keep it instead if actually mailing it. That way you have instant proof, you don't have to be worried about it being lost or damaged in the mail, and the cancellations are legal.

Again, very good article and I, along with the others, appreciate it very much.

Dee

Thanks Catz

to those of you who have left messages saying you have set up your google alerts from this piece .. I'm really glad I have helped in some way

Someone asked about what you do when you do find a person who has plagiarized your work .. I have personally had this happen to me and was able to deal with it myself .. I will write a follow up column on what to do over the next couple of days and send the link to those of you who are interested .. so please leave a message in the comments if you would like the link to that column once it is completed

Please note that the best way to protect your home mailed poem is to have a postal ink stamp put across the seal, that way if anything happens .. anyone can see the seal hasn't been tampered with ..

I will add things here as I think of them

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  • malvolio
    July 10
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    Thank you for this; I've just set up alerts on some of my poetry and will be doing more!
  • Thanks for the useful information! I found this article full of good stuff that I can use!

  • antique
    August 23, 2006
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    lol thanks .. that's not why I'm leaving this site though .. it's not the same as it used to be .. and there are more changes on the horizon that I'm not particularly fond of .. time to move on is all .. thanks again

  • AgeofAquarius
    August 22, 2006
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    X cellente Grandisimo!!

    Great article and great info...for me, I write in a cathartic process so while I appreciate it if someone "GETS" it I really don't give a damn if somoene plagarizes... Karma will have their @$$ somewhere down the road...

    What I did find out though while in a Denver Writer's Group of professionals...( at least they were selling their work,( From religious, romantic and suspense genre.. no Stephen King wasn't one of them.. the library of congress does a blank submittal form if you really want it protected...

    It's not FREE free but it's not a fortune from what they indicated either.. you just submit them as a collection rather than peicemeal... So quick contest submittals would NOT be protected until they were submitted in a form protected by copyrighting....

    GREAT post and from what I can read from whats here I personally don't think u should leave just find a way less drama filled to relieve the bizarre stuff that happens here..

    BUT...It's YOUR poetic voice ... If it MAKES you Haaaapppppy it can't be that BAAAAAAAAD....( Sheryl Crow)

    I know others who have left for whatever reasons and have allowed themselves to be silenced by the insanity...THATS not why I come here... I have never posted it because it's my own souls creed that I live by after I left a position as minister...but I tell myself "F&%K you one!!! F&%K you all...for standing there laughing as you watched me fallll..!!"

    I know it rhymes..LoL..but it works for me...

    Good luck on your journey wherever it leads you..




  • the wonder girl
    August 16, 2006
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    I agree :D

    Hallooo! It's been a while since I last visited your page, I hope I'm still remembered. even though this is not a poetry, I believe it needs an applause. Thank you for giving each poet on AP (who'd read this) a chance to protect themselves from copiers and thieves. Thank you for the tips!

  • SimpleSarcasm
    July 5, 2006
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    You know, I know that it's said plagiarism is the highest form of a compliment but only bottom feeders resort to such a thing. People who have no talent of their own and must leach off of someone elses sweat.
    Great article and thanks so much for posting this.

  • Hulali
    June 28, 2006
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    This is a very helpful and informative column. I would like to add another option when it comes to using the mail as a "poor man's copyright" as I have heard it called. Originally, the person who told me about it said that you should sign and date the envelope along the seal. This is just another version of having the stamp put across the seal, and its something you can do at home, just put a stamp on it and pop it into your mail box.

  • -LilacThOughts- gold member
    June 22, 2006
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    Hi this is a very informative column and I want to say thank you for penning it...I have been posting my work back to myself but sometimes you can't read the date stamp, so the other option sounds good....

    May I ask where you got you're private forum from?...I have just tried to find one but was unsuccessful...I'd appreciate your help on this ...thank you...

    ~Lilac~

  • SpiritMother gold member
    June 5, 2006
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    Thank you for this informative column..I had been wondering how I could protect my writings without having to go through government channels where fees are charged. I cannot afford the fees to copyright all the poetry that I write, now you have given me another option that is free and protection based as well. Again thank you. I will go to google and print my works for mailings as well. Blessings to you each day!

  • antique
    May 25, 2006
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    you'd be amazed at what morons plagiarize and either way, no one has the right to take anything that someone wrote and owns .. and what are you doing here if you think it's crap? ..

  • SilverScent gold member
    May 18, 2006
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    Hey just want to thank you for the tips. I have entered three of my poems into the google alerts and after just one search I have found someone who has plagiarised one of my poems. Of course I now contacted that person demanding an explanation. Thanks again!!!

  • faeriedust-
    May 17, 2006
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    Hey again This time i have something useful to say! ^_^ Because i'm great

    I have a google account, and while setting up my google alerts, it said i could sign in with my google account. I did so, and the layout of it is totally different and easier to manage than if you don't have a google account.

    Rather than entering in the google alert, then putting your email adress and then having to sign into your email address to 'activate' them, you sign in, and then can enter in as many alerts as you like, with out having to activate them with through an email. But i think it only works with a googlemail account [or gmail, they are the same thing]

    When/is the alerts find something, they send it straight to your googlemail account. I just found it so much easier to manage.

    Hope that can help a few people x

    faeriedust-

  • hartofsilver
    May 17, 2006
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    You've definitely scared me into wanting to do something...but I have so many that I don't even know where to start ...and I've already made the mistake of posting all of my poetry before doing the private posting in a blog or mailing it to myself...what would you reccomend in my situation?

    kayla*

  • antique
    May 17, 2006
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    1943navyblue .. thank you for taking the time to read and comment on this column ..

    firstly .. google alerts aren't going to stop people from copying your work, it is just a means to find plagiarists who have already stolen from you or who might steal from you in the future .. I have found it a very useful tool so far, as I found a few of mine posted around on various sites and was able to get them to remove my work .. they were very shame faced when I confronted them .. and in most cases they will remove your work without having to take the matter further

    As for your methods .. unless the floppy disc actually records a time stamp of when it was posted I wouldn't recommend it as the 'only method' .. I know that my computer is a bit funny with recording things like that, so that is why I actually post onto a private site that no one can view .. because the time stamp is automatically there and no one can tinker with it, so it is proof enough and I post the copy to myself in the mail as a back up, because if someone were to actually take your poem and publish it in a book, then chances are all their work is plagiarized and it would be worth following up a case like this .. at least I would think .. so I do recommend you taking that extra pre-caution, even if you just use a private blog to record your work before posting it out in the public eye .. I hope this has helped

  • antique
    May 17, 2006
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    ecrivain .. I shall compile a list for you .. the only problem with forums is you need to be quite internet savvy to set them up, I'm not saying you're not, but I didn't want to confuse people when writing this .. that's why I included the blog option.. but I will send you some forum links as soon as I finish critiquing a few more of my contest entries .. just prompt me with an im if I haven't gotten back to you by tomorrow ..

  • wordplayer
    May 16, 2006
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    Hi Antique I would like to thank you for pointing this out about avoiding plagarism I would like to ask a question. I have made copies of all my poems and put them into book form for each of my brothers and sisters. I have also copied them on to floppy disk and saved dated notarized copies in a safe depoit box. Is this sufficent enough for me to protect my work?
    I also have saved the original copies of my initial writing including my proofreading corrections. Thanks 1943navyblue

  • J Rhys Davies
    May 16, 2006
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    It’s a shame that we have to fins means to protect ourselves from the scum of humanity that chooses to steal than to create. It’s sad that there are actually that many lazy jerk weeds out there that we have to go about doing this. This was a fantastic column, one that I think should hopefully remain on the minds of all who have read it. Thank you for taking the time to help others out. I admire that, because there’s not many of us left in the world that do.

    ~ John

  • xox Juicebox xox
    May 16, 2006
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    I'd love to recieve the link to the follow up article on how you deal with the plagiarist once you've found them.

    Thanks.

    Yours,
    Cassie

  • n e m o
    May 16, 2006
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    *bows*
    this is extremely helpful. nuff said.

  • May 16, 2006
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    I think is a really good idea. I had never thought of this but I am glad that you are doing this for others!

  • j-ay rose
    May 16, 2006
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    hmmm that whole mail thing seems very drastic, but at the same time I understand how unnerving plagiarism can be. The first time it happened I cried, got pissed off and locked everything up and considered not sharing ever again, but since then I decided I don't really care so much anymore. Nice column though.

  • drummerboy08
    May 16, 2006
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    Very Helpful.

    Very well thought out. It's nice that you typed this to help other people. Good Job.

  • Alpha Omega
    May 16, 2006
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    Very very useful column, great ideas. i'm gonna try and remember to start using them. once again great job on this column. keep up the good work

    john =)
  • ecrivain01 silver member
    May 16, 2006
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    I would be curious what the name is of the website that offers those free forums which are private? Good ideas in this article by the way.

  • Rachael70
    May 16, 2006
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    WONDERFUL !!!!!

    Wow, this is a really great write. It's so smart and some thing that I think has been on alot of peoples mind. I have always loved adding my poems to the internet, and I keep a sined and dated note book with all my poems and the notes I made before I wrote the poem itself. It takes alot of time but I have always believed that everything that I do to protect my writing is for the best. I have always been very careful about keeping my writing safe for that kind of thing, and even with all that I do I always seem to be think that I can do more. Thank you for these great options!

    Majestic Poet

    P.S. I will 100% be trying some of these options!

  • antique
    May 16, 2006
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    do you need an account there Imokon .. because I was trying to work it out .. it would only let me search pages, and when I tried to open an account, it said premier or the other one that costs .. can't remember what it's called .. if you know of a way to do it without typing in a web address I'll add it in the column, I couldn't work out how to just put words in because it was requesting a web addy .. but I was a bit confuzzled when I was there .. let me know if you have time and I'll add it in the actual column .. I do plan on going back there to check it out though .. I just didn't have a lot of time when I did go there

  • Imokon
    May 16, 2006
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    ah yes, I saw that later after posting my comment

  • antique
    May 16, 2006
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    thanks Imokon .. I added that in a comment up there somewhere to Vera Rich I think it was .. but I think you have to pay or something there for it to search .. I was of the understanding that you could only search whole web pages .. but I could be wrong .. I didn't give it much time there, because I was already set up at google

  • Imokon
    May 16, 2006
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    With copyscape you can look up an entire poem; copyscape.com

  • AngelicMistress gold member
    May 16, 2006
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    EXCELLENT!!!!!

    I find this VERY informative an most helpful
    I personally have the habit of sending all of my work -on a monthly basis- to the Library of Congress copyright office....
    It may be a bit expensive but, My work is MINE and it is safely acknowledged by congress, with it's copyrights, and all....
    Thank you for sharin with all of us....
    As I have said, thsi si ery educational and helpful....
    be blessed with love and lilght,
    As always,
    AngelicMistress

  • Sharcu gold member
    May 16, 2006
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    This is a very needed column on the site. Very well written with great information. Thanks for sharing this with us!
    --Tim

  • -Ink Artist-
    May 16, 2006
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    Thanks!!

    Fantastic post!! Thanks so much for the info!!
  • Mentally Speaking
    May 16, 2006
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    Thanx

    Wow, this is really a great column. I like this and imma take all your advice, my mom told me the same thing about the envelope and sendin them to yourself. Its called, "Poor Man's Patent".. But I never did it because I didn't wanna write all my poems. I'm jus' gonna print them. Thanx for some of the thoughts.

  • leander gold member
    May 16, 2006
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    ooh, a lot of clappies

  • redonyx
    May 16, 2006
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    please IM me about the next column, I've had a poem stolen before.



  • capricornpoet silver member
    May 16, 2006
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    Thanks for posting this , It seems a good advice, I will certainly look into it ...

  • DancingRed
    May 16, 2006
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    Wow, thanks for this I would definitely like the link to the next column IM'ed to me please. I'm off to check out google alerts now,
    Thank you again
    DancingRed.

  • wishintreeUK
    May 16, 2006
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    This is very helpful, you have taken a great deal of time and effort doing this so that others can benefit also. True, it may seem like hard work going through the process of trying to protect our work, yet it is well worth it!

    ~Katie~

  • antique
    May 16, 2006
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    Thanks Vera .. the alerts are meant to be used for searching the web for certain interests .. for example, if you're interested in Johnny Depp .. you would type in "Johnny Depp" and the alerts would constantly email you every time a new piece of information on him were to arise on the internet, although you'd get swamped with emails if you did that .. however, it is a useful tool to find anyone who has copied your work .. there is another site www.copyscape.com which works with the same principle, to guard against plagiarism, but it is only really useful if you're trying to protect against copycats who steal complete web pages .. but how the google alerts works, is you can just type in a sequence of words and it will alert you to any pages that contain that sequence of words .. it really does work, so it is worth trying .. even if you only just do a few poems to trial it yourself, I think you'll find it is a useful tool .. it's very easy to set up .. but if you need help please don't hesitate to im me and I'll see if I can be of assistance to you in anyway I can
  • Vera Rich gold member
    May 15, 2006
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    This could be very useful... I do not entirely understand how these alerts work... But I shall try to puzzle it out...




  • Snappy - Doodles gold member
    May 15, 2006
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    Super Fantistic

    Very informative, especially the part about the web. Thanks for all of this. I can definitly use this info.
  • Phrozen
    May 15, 2006
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    Totally. Google rocks. I so have to check that out. I think within five years google will be the only website you need.

    Kind of a scary thought, mind you, one company with a monopoly on all things cyber... but at least so far they have been a good company... agh I'm here to applud you... not google...

    Phrozen

  • Aeturnu
    May 15, 2006
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    You are my Goddess.' This post was awesome.

  • Glitter Goddess
    May 15, 2006
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    Very informative

    Wonderful column you have written, Aimee! Thank you for this. I think we all need to read and use the excellent advice given in this column. I also like how you incorporated your other personal ways of shielding your work from plagiarism. I will surely be using this!
    - Andi

  • gentle breeze
    May 15, 2006
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    this is exactly what i wanted. thanks

  • Jeremy0826 gold member
    May 15, 2006
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    Awesome!

    Thank you so much for taking the time to write and share this information. I have always been quite concerned about all of my work that I have posted on the internet and other places. This is a great tool to have. Thank you very much!

    Allen0826

  • MURDER she screamed
    May 15, 2006
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    i set up the alert and already found people who have plagiarized my work, mostly kids on myspace, thank you soooo much for this, its super useful

  • sunshinegirl
    May 15, 2006
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    Great Tips

    I also have several poems that I have done over the years, and found out that my adopted father had stolen several and gave them to someone that he wanted to help publish. Fortunately I found them before he could, and had kept a hard copy for myself. Which proved to be a great thing. I wasn't sure how to protect it on line, and now I know. I want to thank you for the tips. I have a hard copy, and one on disk. I was also told by someone, can't remember who, that you can also, sign and date the back of the work to help protect yourself for theft. sunshinegirl
  • CorazonQuebrado6
    May 15, 2006
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    This was a very good column! I dont think any of my poems have been plagerized and i dont think anybody would want to but these are good ideas you have for just in case! Thanks a bunch!

  • Delicate Jaded
    May 15, 2006
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    I have worried about this exact subject for a while now. Thank you never much that Goodle Alert idea is fantastic.
    Samantha
  • chimaera
    May 15, 2006
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    This is some wonderful advice and I hope people take note of it. Sadly, I have personal knowledge of someone on AP who had posted around 20 plagiarized poems on her page- claiming them all as her own, even including 'I wrote this during math class for my wonderful boyfriend' type authors comments on them...!!!! She removed *most* of them after being banned but her comment on her personal blog about her banning was "so what, it's only a poem?" The irony is that the next day she posted a poem on her blog and made a very obvious copyright notation on it.

    P.S. -and I know the poems were plagiarized because I googled them and found where they had been written by other authors over 2 years earlier

  • Tsuki
    May 15, 2006
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    This is very helpful, thank you. :-)

    ~Amanda

  • Shakari
    May 15, 2006
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    This piece is quite useful! I don't think I will go that far, but it is quite interesting...how we can protect our poetry. I just hope that people don't plagiarise my writing, for I will find them. Keep up the great work and thanks for being informative!
  • Hockeygal4life
    May 15, 2006
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    I have been always really concern about other people to copy my poems from word to word and want to thank you for the great info to protect our poems. When I write a poem, I have it saved on Word, print out 3 copies, 2 in a folder and other in a folder that has the oringal paper that I wrote the poem on. Thanks again for the great tips!

  • ordinary days
    May 15, 2006
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    very helpful indeed, thank you!

  • LadyUnique silver member
    May 15, 2006
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    this is definitely helpful and you have my applause for your efforts
    i've heard about mailing your writing to yourself and not opening it as proof...but never heard about google alerts. it sounds like a great idea...one i will be checking out

  • Platinum Stitches
    May 15, 2006
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    I thought this was very usefully. Sometimes I'm a little worried about putting my work up on the net, mainly if I feel that it's a good piece (which a is rare). Other times, I don't care because I can't see anybody taking the time to copy my work, it seems like a big waste of time to me.

    Thank you for writing the column, it made me think more about protecting my work from those shit faced copycats.

    Huggles!

    Always and Forever,
    ~Kendal
  • xylophonefairy
    May 15, 2006
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    EXCELLENT!!!

    Wow, this is excellent! Thankyou so much for maiking this, I even considered getting an envelope and putting my poems in a S.A.E but that would be kinda stupid... Anyway, they are some great ideas and I'll be trying them all out, thatnkyou so so much!

  • fivetwosixtwo
    May 15, 2006
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    This is great advice, I've been wondering how to protect my work for a while now, and I think I'm going to set up one of those google alert accounts. Thanks for your help. <3

  • thelordreigns gold member
    May 15, 2006
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    Thanks so much for a relly helpful column. - joanne

  • Toni A Christman
    May 15, 2006
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    Thank you so much for sharing this with us. I truly appreciate those who are willing to take the time and effort to share useful information with us. Not everything is poems and cups! Again, thank you very much!

  • Hope2MakeIt
    May 15, 2006
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    i have been wondering how to do this. thank you for having this posted and i will most definitely be looking into this. i wrote elsewhere before and found some writing so similar to mine--like the words were almost copied but more translated right after the person had read mine and it was so irritating. thank you again. hope2makeit

  • Autumn Escura
    May 15, 2006
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    wow. this is an awesome thing. i think i myself will put many of these into place. tehe. thanks for the advice.


    much love <3 Shadow of an Angel

  • neurosine gold member
    May 15, 2006
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    Excellent suggestions. Certainly one of the most practical columns on AP. And it's written by what seems to be a sane person. Amazing.
  • Venomous smile
    May 15, 2006
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    I never considered that someone would consider plagerizing my work. Is there any stats on how many poems are plagerized? I just wanted to know. Thank you for the informative peice.
  • ReptileStarseed
    May 15, 2006
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    I really appreciate someone finally writing a column like this. Not only will it help people protect themselves, but it will discourage plagiarists of all types. This column is full of useful advice.

    I loved what you put in there about sending the poem to yourself through the mail. It takes real intellegence to think of something like that, you know? Yes, I'm quite sure it would be useful in court if plagiarism actually went that far.

    I never knew that google offered a service like that. Well I don't know much about google anyway, I suppose that that is why. Thanks for informing me, though.

    Once again,I appreciate your column. It is very well writen and I'm sure that it will help lots of people.
  • Creative
    May 15, 2006
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    Hi

    Good advice.
    I had some of my work stolen and posted on the net, but eventually the culprit was found and exposed.
    1 point though, in your "Other ways that I personally protect my work:" bit, Number 1, I would use a gumed envelope, not a self seal one and don't tape it or it could be argued that it has been tampered with.

    David (Creative)


  • Sailorswench
    May 15, 2006
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    Thanks for this. I just started my own google alert and will doing the mail thing also. My boyfriend Brian told me about the mailings.

  • Jill in the Box
    May 15, 2006
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    This is great advice, a lot of which I'll use myself Aweosme.

  • May 15, 2006
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    Thanks so much - this has been a great help. I've set up my Google Alerts already .

  • Jackle
    May 15, 2006
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    Much needed advice!!!

    Thanks so much for this. It will take a while to set up Google Alects but I will do the envelope thing. I guess you need one for each with something on it to ID it. Thanks...Allpoetry says it will go to court with you if someone takes your works so I fill OK with being here. There are always the crafty ones that will take anything not nailed down..I will do Google as time allows. Cheers for you for giving this to us. Jackie

  • leander gold member
    May 15, 2006
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    clappies, clappies

  • Dienush Greeters member
    May 15, 2006
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    These are clever ideas, though as far as I know poetry is not too often plagiarized since there is little money in it. However, it happens and it is terrible... I guess I might try the Google alert thingie, though I have hundreds of poems I want protected... LOL, can you imagine that? I don't like always pointing out negative stuff, but there still is one thing that bugs me about this: ok, say you know you've been plagiarized and by whom... but then what? Taking the plagiarist into court costs pretty much to my knowledge, at least in my country. And there are probably a lot of great poets who wouldn't afford it. I recall last summer I received a school magazine in which lots of my poetry and articles had been published... but one of my articles was signed by someone else. I hope it was a mistake. But there was nothing I could do. So I guess a column on what to do when you know you've been plagiarized would be useful as well. But the methods you have described here are neat precautions that can make an author feel safer and I'm certain they can be very useful. Thanks for sharing.

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    =D

    Good ideas there but as my teacher once told me if someone wants to steal something bad enough they'll do it no matter what and in most cases may get away with it.

    That doesn't go to say we should let people get away with stuff like this but rather expect it even if you think your nobody because even the nobodys get stolen from.

  • Ink Shadow
    May 15, 2006
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    This is a great suggestion. I am already informed about the google alerts, have used it for a few poems. It works pretty well! I believe not to post anything which I mean to publish or send across to periodicals. Though sending to copyright office and periodicals can mean a lot of time (money, atleast for me), but that is a full proof way.

    Thanks for sharing this article.
    Edited on May 15, 12:21 because ''.

  • catz Moderators member
    May 15, 2006
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    I think you've written a very useful column, antique. Even though as a moderator we often use the web search to varify plaegerism, and I've even found my own poetry on the web for the fun of it, (posted just under my own name, fortunatly, I guess no one fonds my poetry good enough to steal ...lol) I hadn't thought to use the web to protect my writings as you've suggested here. and since I have only a zillion things to do on a regular basis, I should get started on this right away

    You also referred to using the mail to protect our work. I knew about this avenue but I was told a long time ago, by I don't remember who.... to take the stamped envelope with poetry inclosed directly to the clerk at the post office, have them put the Post Office cancellation in various places on the envelope, any place where it could be opened, like along the seams, etc. Then just keep it instead if actually mailing it. That way you have instant proof, you don't have to be worried about it being lost or damaged in the mail, and the cancellations are legal.

    Again, very good article and I, along with the others, appreciate it very much.

    Dee
    Edited on May 15, 11:40 because ''.

  • pandora ink
    May 15, 2006
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    Thank you very much for the wonderful ways to protect my poetry from plagiarism! I will send this link to a friend of mine who was very wary about this problem and, hopefully, it will ease her mind and give her some ideas about how to protect her work. Personally, I think I may use the envelope method, it seems the best for me, right now. Thank you again!
    Elisa

  • Zayra Yves gold member
    May 15, 2006
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    This is a great idea to post this column. I too have already set up Google alerts, mail copies to myself, as well as email it to myself and send it off to the copyright office. But I am glad to see this post. I notice there is a problem with plagerism and the slight lifting, sort of like a white lie, of poetry around here. Even from contests and things, I have seen people lift ideas and phrases even out of the comments left by others. So, there might need to be a column on how one can generate their own ideas rather than lift from others all the time.

    Bravo on this one!

  • bethan-gaze gold member
    May 15, 2006
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    Thank you so much for posting this, it's been a revelation to me. I will definitely look into it - I'll probably resort to posting envelopes to start with. Fascinating stuff. Cheers!

  • faeriedust-
    May 15, 2006
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    I've already started setting up google for alerts i am so paranoid But this is wonderful. Thank you so much. It will help me a lot. Very cool idea. You have given me a new hobby lol

    faeriedust-

  • Robbwindow
    May 15, 2006
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    Most informative thank you kindly, I always wondered about the googles spider thing.

  • Your Messiah
    May 15, 2006
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    Aimee, this was a wonderful idea. I have so many people stealing things from me and I really don't doubt that they'd steal my writing, too. I'm going to set up a google alert as soon as I get home from school. And I'll print off most of my work when I get t oa working printer and stamp+send it to myself. Thank you for posting this, you're very generous.

    -Cory
    .x

  • antique
    May 15, 2006
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    Hi Udit .. I have roughly the same amount of poems .. most of which have been posted on the net at some stage or another, and I only started using google alerts around 3 months ago .. so I basically went through each one ... and painstakingly added it to the alerts .. some of them were really short which was handy .. like I said up there, it is extremely time consuming, especially if you have a lot of poems from the past that you want to protect .. but you only ever have to add them once and then they're searchable by google forever or until you tell google to stop searching for them ..

    now that I've finally caught up with all my past work .. I generally use Sunday afternoons catching up on the past weeks poems and add them to google then .. there is no easy fix or quick fix unfortunately .. my advice to you would be to perhaps pick out your best or the ones that you feel may have been taken and run a search on those ones .. I found a few of mine in several different places .. but dealt with it and the perpetrators have removed them now .. it really does work

    I was meaning to post a 'how to' if you were to find someone had plagiarised your work, but unfortunately ran out of time .. so hopefully I'll get around to that shortly

    I hope this helps, unfortunately it's just a slow process if you do have a number of poems that you want to protect .. I spent a weekend doing mine .. and am really glad I did now

  • lavi sky rogue
    May 15, 2006
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    I thank you for this column, it is more than useful. I hate the idea of plagyarism, but for the moment I do not fear it, for my poems are not that special. However, there are poets on this site and not only who have had so much trouble with