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In the Realm of Writers

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Artists are a wonderful breed of folk, aren't they? I fancy myself an artist, although most definitely not one of the best. I partake in the wonderful world of photography, but my main art form is writing.  


I've had plenty of experience with writers from all walks of life. And, being a member of several writing websites, I've met plenty of fellow writers who stand out in my mind. Both good and bad. The talented and the talentless who try really hard, which does, of course, make you give them automatic kudos for trying to improve. And many do improve.  


However, as in any other area of life in general, there are those who stand out for being completely out of this world. In a bad way. I've met them in contests I've held, reviews I've gotten, reviews and contests others have. And I've noticed there are certain groups. I'd like to highlight a few. If you are a writer and see yourself in one of these categories, please try to fix it. Not for everyone around you, but for yourself. Your writing cannot improve if no one gives you feedback... and eventually it will come to that.  


Contest Entries  


1. What do you mean I didn't win?! I have held several contests at two websites now, and I have met at least three of these at each site. These are the people who enter their works in to a contest and automatically assume they are going to come out with the gold. When they don't... they accuse. I've been accused of favoring friends (even in contests where my friends didn't place), not reading the entries at all because if I had then they would have obviously won, etc.  


2. I read the rules... but I don't get it. These people are just dense. I held the same exact contest at two websites, and got several strange responses. The contest was to write a poem about an any gender couple (human or fantasy creatures, straight or gay) either falling in love or having a romantic moment in nature. The rules said that erotica was ok to use. But with erotica you need to specify things like no animals, no children, no rape, etc. Which I gladly did. Don't want any surprises! At least two people wrote me messages about the rules. One was incredibly nasty. They refused to enter the contest because nature includes animals, so how could I say no animals? The average person realized that, putting that rule in to context with the other things included, it meant "no animals and humans making it" not "no animals at all."  


3. Sneaky This is wrong. But I've found several people who have done it. The contests are basically to give you writing ideas, improve your skills, and open your mind. The contest owner can choose to accept pre-writes or not (if they are accepted, you get a drop down menu when entering. If they aren't, the drop down menu of your poems does not exist, so to enter you must create an original). So many people go and open an older work, copy and paste it in the box, and enter it as a new poem. Kind of defeats the purpose.  


General  


1. It's not my topic of choice. I hate it when people read a work of yours then down rate the piece or bad mouth you... because it is not a genre they like. All of the pieces at both sites have the option for the writer to place them in to categories such as horror, adult, erotica, fantasy, humor, personal, etc. So... why do you open up a horror piece if generally you don't like horror? And then, to top that off, you write a nasty note or down rate the piece badly because you don't like the genre? Make it sting extra bad, write this in the note: "I think this was really well written and you have a wonderful talent. However, I hate this genre, so I'm only giving the piece 1 star out of 5." That was a real note I got once on a longer horror story I had written. That made me madder than someone else who told me the piece was just down right crap. I've had people read my works that are in genres they generally don't enjoy, or downright hate. But they rated/noted based on the writing... not the genre. These people are perfectly fine.  


2. I don't like the character names. I had a piece down rated one time because the girl didn't like the name of the lead character. It was Javier. She had an ex-boyfriend named Javier. I'd never met her or her ex-boyfriend, but because I chose to use the name Javier... she gave me 1 out of 5 stars, then flamed the living daylights out of me. The kicker... she'd broken up with Javier herself several years prior to this and was now happily married to someone else. What is the point?!  


3. Don't bother commenting... my works are the best on the planet, and you can do nothing to help me improve on them. I'm just posting them here to do you a favor. Please. Don't bother. If you are posting your work just to hear everyone tell you how wonderful the piece is, just open your own website or message list (why beg for these wonderful comments anyway? You obviously think it's the masterpiece of the century. Or do you need that to be repeated several times to you without the pesky people who actually try to help fellow writers?). Don't post it in a writing community where people are trying to improve. You do make mistakes, a lot of people don't like your work because it's not their style, it didn't do anything for them, or whatever the reason, so no, you aren't the best there is. If you don't want help - especially if you turn that help away by being incredibly rude, nasty, mean, or go in and down rate every work by a person who pointed out a spelling or grammar error - don't bother joining the community. To keep yourself a little humble, in whatever field you are in, always remember one thing: no matter how good you are at a craft, there is someone out there who is better. AND, if you create any kind of work of art, you need to have skin like leather. Because not everyone thinks it is as wonderful as you do.  


4. If it doesn't rhyme in some way, it's not poetry. Personally, I do not enjoy writing poetry in this style. I've read some I enjoyed a ton, but usually it's not my style. I write free form for the most part. It's actually a common form. And many famous pieces are written in the same way. You don't like free form? Fine. But it IS poetry. And a note to the wise: there are many, many people out there who completely hate, and will not read, a poem that rhymes. Think of this before deciding your word is law.  


5. This is too long! Poetry isn't supposed to be this long! And proceed to down rate and/or insult the author. May I point out something? Shakespeare was a poet. His poetry became full plays. You want to talk about a long poem?! Have you ever read an 800 page poem? I have! Have I written an 800 page poem? No. I may have written poems that stretched over two or three pages, this is true. But long doesn't mean bad. I wouldn't, in any way, say Shakespeare’s poetry was bad because it was long. Come on! (note: no, I am not comparing myself to Shakespeare. That would be painfully sinful.)  


6. The Erotica Issue I have, from time to time, dipped in to the wonderful world of Erotica. I don't have many pieces of this nature. And as of right now, I only have one piece that is complete Erotica (that is, one piece that I have completed to date, I have several in the works). The rest are generally something else with Erotica included. However, this one piece I wrote... generally, it's not a smutty piece. It is, but it's not a few pages of dirty words and slang comments. Mine is a committed couple who, as established in the story, are actually in love with each other. Its one moment in one day of their relationship. The focus is obvious. But it's gotten the most views of any piece I have ever written (it was awarded 256 in two days on one site). It's also gotten the biggest mix of comments. They've ranged from noters telling me it was hot but tasteful to people telling me it took too long to get to the sex (I believe the sex started a few paragraphs in, mainly because I wanted to establish the characters a little). On the twist side, some people said I moved in to the sex too fast. I was told it was dirty. I was even condemned to hell because the couple in the story was - surprise! - two men! Again, on the flip side, I had people actually write to me and tell me how wonderful it was to see homoerotic tales that weren't two women. And, of course, there were many notes on both sides about an erotic scene between two men that was created by a female author. You can't please all the people all the time, so true.  


The good and the bad are in all walks of life, I suppose. And you need to collect a portfolio of them all, if you can. But I can't help but think that humans are an amazing species.

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  • anorexicmonkey
    April 24, 2005
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    bravo, well said

    i myself am completley into photography, but lately its my journal i keep with me at ALL tims in exchange for my camera.... you never know when inspiration will hit you..... digital art is another thing of mine

    this was a nice read, glad to hear people telling things how they feel they are, honesty is what life is all about, thanks for sharing


  • ricochet rabbit
    April 24, 2005
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    Yeah, I sympathize, as I've been on the receiving end of these kinds of things. The worst is when you offer your honest opinion on their work, and they repeatedly IM you telling you -- GASP! -- how dare you have an opinion on my work! I mean, who are you to not like it?! As always, I just point out to the fact that they were inviting a critical review, and as such, they should take their medicine.


  • SexyAngel0418
    April 4, 2005
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    Auntie Erin... This is a wonderful column... It is so true and very wonderfully written... I definately agree with the ". It's not my topic of choice"... I don't see why ppl read stuff that they don't like that genre!!!

    Hugs,
    Beth


  • pattyann4500
    April 4, 2005
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    Erin, sweetie, you truly honor me with these words. I would never insult anyone's writing, especially one so talented as you. You have the most remarkable talent for writing I have ever read, and you span all genres. Thank you so much for such tender, sweet words. Hugs, Patricia ♥


  • Taur-amandil silver member
    April 4, 2005
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    Patty: of all the people here, you are probably the most opened minded person I've met to date. You've read a few of my works now that really aren't things that you read. But you've never been the type to do the things I was saying, like condem me to hell or tell me the piece just shouldn't even exist. I don't think you've ever even used the word "dirty." That is probably one of the biggest parts of being a good writer: open mindedness of other writers.

  • darknightlove86
    April 4, 2005
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    Yay

    I like your advice, and echo the sentiments.

    I wish there was a way of contesting poor reviews so that over time those who give low ratings for no real reason would be discounted from averaged ratings. Nothing is more frustrating than having some stranger take out a random frustration on you because you happen to be in front of them.

  • JETS jets jets jets
    April 4, 2005
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    Didn't realize this was a contest. Well, I'm not at my best at the moment, but I'll come back maybe tomorrow and check it out. Maybe I'll even put in a poem for you to read. Good luck with your entries and judging!


  • Mozambiquel
    April 4, 2005
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    You know, this is very well-written, and you have some excellent points, but I hate collumns. No, just kidding, I love columns and even if I didn't, this is still amazing. Excellent points and an excellent way of expressing them. I have to admit, I have been guilty of reading somebody's poem simply because I wanted to yell at them for being too fanatical about something, but I ended up just telling them that they could have gotten across the emotions better if they hadn't rhymed (wasn't I good? ) Anyway, I suppose my point is...I agree and I hope this column opens more people's eyes.
    --Ivy


  • HeavenonEarth
    April 4, 2005
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    Very nice and covered a broad range of subjects but was incorporated well. I also like the way you are blunt. I prefer to call it brutally honest myself. We are all here to definitely improve and hone our skills. You stated it impeccably that not everything we right is going to be perfect I know at this moment I have stopped writing due to the fact my performance was lacking of late. Yet I also know I will be back in the saddle soon enough. I think this was something that needed to be stated and also to give the reader's and participants another view/opinion on another's circumstances. Excellent job on this.


  • withdrawal
    April 3, 2005
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    You are too awesome! I think everyone, every single person on this site should read this. Poetry is for each person to write, and yes, even improve where it could be made better.

    I don't like it when people say something that came from your soul could be bad! But if it is, then maybe work on it. And for people to look down on you for not writing what they like...if they didn't say No horror, then who's to say don't write that? You must take the words for who the poet is! Not for what your style is-be open-minded!

    They either get too picky, rude, cocky, or blonde. Go figure...

    But anywayz, this an incredible column and you really made it clear! To me anywayz. *thumbs up*
    Congrats!
    ~Jen

  • PennyB
    April 3, 2005
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    enlightning

    Erin, You have truly written a most wonderful column here. This should be very eye opening to many people. I think that you have taken the subject of poetry and sharing poetry and broken it down into its simplest form. Anyone should be able to understand the things that you have to say here. Also, you are very right in everything that you have stated. This is both very well thought out and very well written. Thank you for sharing this with us. My hope is that it will open many closed eyes and minds. Kuddos Kiddo!! Penny


  • DazedAndConfused88
    April 3, 2005
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    Loved it

    This was great to read for many reasons, one because it covers a range of subjects, and also because you state your opinions/ideas so literately! You shouldn't be condemed for homoerotic stories.. I'm not a homosexual myself, but if you are female.. This is VERY understandable.I commend you!

    What a brilliant mind.
    - Yours sincerely,
    Hunter

  • pattyann4500
    April 3, 2005
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    Erin, dearest, you are probably one of my absolute favorites here because you are so multi-faceted. Although there are some categories I try my best to stay away from, I know that your work is always something that I will enjoy--not necessarily because of the genre, but because of the talent behind it.

    This is an excellent column. I have had people tell me that my work is not their "style." I tell them that there are many poets here to choose from and that they will perhaps find one that satisfies their taste.

    I had a pretty good write just critiqued by the host of a contest. Obviously he wasn't crazy about it, but he was honest and said that he would "tear it apart." I truly appreciated his honesty. I must admit, however, that he really went after Bonnie, too. This woman being an editor for so many years, and this man believes that he can tell her what is terribly wrong with one of her most beautiful pieces.

    I love being on AP, and I take offense from no one. It is not in my nature, and it is their opinion. You have a really good column here that should be able to help ANY open-minded person. Thank you for writing this. Hugs, Patricia ♥

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