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Gregorian Sonnaiku (How To Write This New Form—Learning Column)

THIS IS A LEARNING/INSTRUCTIONAL COLUMN FOR AN UPCOMING CONTEST IN MARCH (IT IS NOT A CONTEST PAGE)
~by Gregg Rowe~

This form of poetry is dedicated to three people at this site  
haikumonk (teacher of the haiku class here)
DementedSonneteer (the teacher of the sonnet class here) &
Mr Greenleaf (who helped me brainstorm the form to be used).  

I created this form for my love of penning both sonnets and haiku and thought about a challenging form, then I started to write Italian Sonnets and because of the form found this to be perfect because of the two stanzas and the turning point--then I figured that there are usually two turning points in writing, the one where you find that moment of awe - hence the haiku - and then when you actually pen the turning point - hence the sestet of the sonnet, so I wanted to incorporate the two and have come up with this form.  For the challenging and more experienced writers, I have compiled a few variations on the form.  I am hoping that we can get a new form started and bring together writers of haiku and writers of the sonnet, and meld them together.

The Birth of the Form

I was entering Mr Greenleaf's contest for a Bompert and we discussed the form of his poem and certain terminology in defining it.  After 24 hours and a few IMs the Birth of the Gregorian Sonnakui was born:

Mr Greenleaf on Jan 31

Hello Gregg! Thanks for the comment. Well, my comparison of bomperts with sonaiku is that, the arrangement of stanzas and the syllabic pattern SEEMS the same with haiku and sonnet. Not exactly the same but only SEEMS like. Get me? Well, I will start not calling it a sonaiku now...I deleted that part in its definition. I agree with you. Bomperts will now a an original one. Thanks for the advice!

lordoftherings on Jan 31,

Mr. Greenleaf: I applaud you! Actually you have made a very good suggestion here, just call it a Bompert and leave it at that. With that and the simplicity of the definition, more people would probably try it, since there are a few who are afraid and run away when the words haiku and sonnet appear in the same definition, gets to be a complex piece of information to decipher and before I attempted to write haiku and sonnets, believe you me, I was the first one to run away.

Why don't you create a new form and keep sonaiku and make it and Italian Sonnet (which speaks of immortality and death) with an octave (eight lines) and a sestet (six lines) and place your haiku between them staying with the idea of nature as the theme in the haiku. So the first part of the sonnet would open to the question of mortality/death moving into a contemplation of the subject through a moment of the present time (haiku) moving into the contemplation/reflection of the sestet for the Italian sonnet. Now that would be a challenge and fun! Why don't we partner up for this and do a trial run on it!

Mr Greenleaf on Feb 01

Thanks also for appreciating my bomperts. Btw, about that combination of haiku and sonnet you said...well, I don't have any idea of the Italian sonnet and I'm kind of busy right now. If you want to start it then I will be helping you anytime. Thank you very much friend!

First of all, I want to acknowledge Mr. Greenleaf for giving me the idea for this new form and having permission to create it.  It is taken off from his form of a Bompert.
 

Please visit his page and read his tome of Bomperts, it's an interesting and fun form to try.

allpoetry.com/Poets/Mr%20Greenleaf


 ALRIGHT LET’S MOVE ONTO THE FORM OF THE POEM

I have sat down and practiced this and am almost ready to post something up for you to view this new form so please bear with me while I polish it up.  I would like us to have fun so if the rules seem a little stuffy, it is because I am attempting to teach the format in a comprehensible manner for us all.  I am hoping that we can find a few poets who would like to have fun and learn at the same time, so without further adieu here is my Gregorian Sonnaiku!

THIS IS IMPORTANT

IF YOU WANT PEOPLE TO SEE YOUR DRAFT COPIES THAT YOU ARE PRACTICING WITH, PLEASE UPLOAD THEM AS A POEM AND SEND ME THE LINK:  I WILL GROUP THEM ALL TOGETHER AND THE LINK WILL BE BELOW THIS MESSAGE...THIS IS NOT A CLASS...IT IS A COMMUNITY PROJECT AND NEEDS PARTICIPATION

WELCOME TO A COMMMUNITY PROJECT AT allpoetry.com:  GREGORIAN SONNAIKU
Follow this link to see some samples being presently written now, please be generous and leave a critique.

allpoetry.com/poem/1045884

 OKAY!!! LET'S CONTINUE  

 The Form

The Gregorian Sonnaiku is composed of three stanzas and incorporates the use of the Italian Sonnet and a Haiku.  The Italian Sonnet was chosen for this because of its history as being one of the first sonnets created in the world and because of the two separate stanzas – the octave and the sestet.  I picked the Haiku as the start of the Volta because it is written in the present tense and is a Zen of the moment, which while you move to your turn of thought through the Volta, the Haiku comes to represent that ‘awe’ in the turn of thought!  You will continue this ‘awe’ in the third stanza called the sestet, and must show a reflection of the awe to your one thought in the octave and the moment of ‘awe’ in the haiku through the last six lines, thus creating a second awe to your poem, and it is this combination that I am so excited about.  

 3 Stanzas  


 ON IAMBIC PENTAMETER  

Iambic pentameter is a five foot line of poetry with a 10-syllable count!

The first syllable is unstressed, second syllable is stressed;
or another way is:  all odd number syllables are unstressed, all even number syllables are stressed

so it goes like this:
(unstressed/stressed)/(unstressed/stressed)/(unstressed/stressed)/
    1            2                   3          4              5         6     syllables
          1                                2                            3            feet
(unstressed/stressed)/(unstressed/stressed)
           7         8                    9        10           syllables
                  4                            5                    feet

Now let's do a line of poetry where italics are unstressed and bold is stressed
--

(The day) (will come) (when I) (write my) (last song)
  1     2 /    3     4  /    5       6 /    7     8 /    9    10  syllables
      1              2             3              4               5     feet

Here is the link to the whole poem where every line is an iambic pentameter line for a Italain Sonnet --

allpoetry.com/Poem/1030814

For Us Beginners

 First Stanza is an octave (eight lines) with a rhyme scheme of abba/abba.  This rhyme scheme for the Gregorian Sonnaiku in the octave cannot be changed (unless you are doing the challenge sonnet or double challenger sonnet --see Variations on Form Below for this explanation), it is the standard rhyme scheme of the Petrarchan Italian Sonnet.

Each line is written in iambic pentameter:
(unstressed/stressed)/(unstressed/stressed)/(unstressed/stressed)/(unstressed/stressed)/(unstressed/stressed)


Most of you will recognize this stanza as the Petrarchan Italian Sonnet Octave.

The subject matter of the stanza should address courtly love (or sex), mortality/immortality, a question on government policies or a philosophical question on life and is eight lines based on ONE THOUGHT.  Another way of looking at it is in the opening octave you describe the situation or pose the problem.

This is the easy part of the poem in its creation, now comes the challenges of writing it.


 Second Stanza is a haiku

In the Gregorian Sonnaiku, the haiku used must be written in the present (the traditional haiku) and be a reflection of the subject in your opening octave, what I call a ZEN of the moment.

Must be presented in the three-line format.

Line 1 must be seasonal (spring/summer/fall/winter) or mention of time.
Line 2 must have nature
Line 3 must bring them together


For what I like to see in the traditional haiku for this form of poetry, please read this link and pay close attention to Number 1 and the Post Script on this link.  

allpoetry.com/poem/602333

Note:  I will not accept haiku that have alliteration, metaphors, rhyme, or any other poetic device that is not part of the traditional haiku. (Haiku are devoid of any literary devices that we use in other forms of poetry and I wish to keep it this way.) I am not fussy about the 17-syllable rule but your haiku must not have less than 11 and not more than 19 syllables in it.  (I also write beat haiku which are one-liners, but will not be used in this Gregorian Sonnaiku because of the structure I am trying to obtain when looked upon the page.)

 3rd Stanza is a sestet (six lines) with a rhyme scheme (see below for the acceptable rhyme schemes and their names.

Each line is written in iambic pentameter:
(unstressed/stressed)/(unstressed/stressed)/(unstressed/stressed)/(unstressed/stressed)/(unstressed/stressed)


Most of you will recognize this stanza as the Italian Sonnet Sestet.

Here are your choices for the sestet with their formal names, all these are acceptable sestets for the Italian sonnet so if one rhyme scheme does not work, they try another one.

Ending your Gregorian Sonnaiku on a:

Italian sestet:  cdecde
Sicilian sestet: cdcdcd
French sestet:  ccdccd
French sestet:  ccdeed
French sestet:  ccdede
Spanish sestet:  cdcdcd


The closing stanza is the third thought, usually a contemplation or awareness of the octave, but in this case, since the haiku is separating the octave and the sestet, the haiku becomes the start of your Volta (turn of thought) so you would complete this thought in your third stanza.

VARIATIONS ON THE FORM  

For the challenging Sonneteers

I will also accept these forms of sonnets also since they too have an octave and a sestet and are derived from the Italian Sonnet

Sicilian Octave (opening stanza)  abba/cddc
Haiku
Sicilian Sestet (closing stanza)     efefef

Sicilian Octave (opening stanza)  abba/cddc
Haiku
Sicilian Sestet (closing stanza)     efgefg


A Double Challenge

Sonetto Rispetto or Ottava Rima Octave
   
Sicilian Octave (opening stanza)  abababcc
Haiku
Italian Sestet (closing stanza)     defdef

Sicilian Octave (opening stanza)  abababcc
Haiku
Italian Sestet (closing stanza)     dedede


I hope that you will enjoy this new form and have some fun.  I know that as I was preparing this and writing my first one, it was unbelievable the possibilities that can arise.


 HINT  

I find that writing the complete sonnet first helpful and then re-read the sonnet, to insert the haiku part of the sonnet, think of that present moment that you had at the turning point in your sonnet, then naturize it.  This is just a hint, might work for some and not others.  

 A NOTE ON THE REQUESTED IAMBIC PENTAMETER IN THE FORM

Now the other challenge:  the iambic pentameter is used precisely in the Italian Sonnets and someone Instant Messaged me and asked if I would accept another meter, and I will have to say that in the beginning of learning this form, let us try to get the form down first and then we can worry about the iambic pentameter later, although you know that I would love you to try your hand at a perfected Gregorian Sonnaiku first, but I will be very lienient in the beginning here as long as we are as close as we can get to the iambic pentameter.  In the end, with the help of others who are trying this new form, perhaps we can suggest to others as we read their works how they would be able to improve on their Gregorian Sonnaikus.

Gregg


NOTE:  ON MARCH 12, 2005 I WILL BE OPENING UP A CONTEST FOR THOSE WHO ARE PRACTICING WRITING THIS FORM AND HOPING THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO GET A FEW ENTRIES  See you in the contest!  Gregg

PLEASE FEEL FREE TO BOOKMARK THIS PAGE FOR EASY ACCESS OR PRINT OUT THE INFORMATION IF YOU HAVE AN INTENTION OF PARTICIPATING IN THE PENNING OF THIS NEW FORM

OUR SPONSORS  

This is the ongoing list of all those who were considerate enough to leave donations to keep this page up and running!

Haikumonk            500 POINTS
Lordoftherings       500 POINTS
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I have opened a Group for us all to get together and have fun with this form.  Please follow the link below and apply within.  

Group Application Gregorian Sonnaiku

allpoetry.com/Application/1045917

Even though I am quite busy with two classes here and a university course, I hope to open this contest on March 12, 2005, so if anyone is interested in entering, please practice the form and then on Saturday evening I will open it.  Why do you ask did I choose March 12th?  It will be my 45th birthday, as well as my first year anniversary with allpoetry.com, and I aim to celebrate it!  (I joined on St Patrick's Day 2004).  Gregg*  

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  • grannyeri gold member
    April 6, 2006
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    At first glance this seems like a lot of work, but once one has been written, the rest are much easier - tried this with the Lento, and might attempt this new form too. Thanks for sharing this information with us.


  • Lapis Lazuli
    April 10, 2005
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    I love the sound of this new form. I am so glad that you have shared it with us. I am going to try it and see where it gets me. I noticed that in the choices for the rhyming scheme for the third stanza that two of the choices are identical but just have different names. If you wanted to tell someone which rhyming scheme you had chosen, which would you choose? Anyway, you have managed to explain the form very well in many steps. If there were not all of these steps I don't think I would be able to understand what to do. You are a brilliant teacher. Well done!

  • Rineai
    March 7, 2005
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    This is such a beautiful new form. Its so intricate and demanding, but its almost perfect. I'll definately have to try this...though im not sure ill succeed. Thanks for sharing your ideas!
    ~*~*Rineai*~*~


  • thelordreigns gold member
    March 1, 2005
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    Thank you once again. I'm bookmarking this column for future use.


  • Terry-too silver member
    February 14, 2005
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    Hi to all,

    I pasted some of this into notepad--

    I am sorry but by afternoon my eyes will not let me read anything with as little contrast as this. Clashing contrast is even worse. It is now 2:30 pm local time. I'll try again in the morning, but would appreciate silver or another pale colour. Thanks,
    Terry


  • Goldmare
    February 7, 2005
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    lordoftherings: Yes it helps very much. Thank you. I'm not sure if I'll be able to pull this off, but once I'm through with the contest-poem I an composing, I'll give this one a whirl.


  • lordoftherings gold member
    February 7, 2005
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    Blu Poetress: Cpould you make this into a poem page and send me the link here, through Im , or on my front page please. I'm going to group them all together and everyone can meet there for critiquing, it will save space on this page for messages. Thank you and this is an excellant start in the form. Congratulations! Gregg


  • April Renee
    February 7, 2005
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    So sad is he now that his love has died.
    And so it seems as if his life is cold.
    No lips to kiss nor hand for him to hold.
    Her grave is new but seems so old at night.
    He vows to watch for signs come dark or light.
    As he lay there with hopes to feel her soul.
    The stars up high will change but he won't go.
    His pain is deep and death did not kill time.

    Autumn nights stand still
    weeping willows reach upward
    he reflects on vows

    He can still see her on the day they wed.
    Her rich brown hair held back with small gold pins.
    A warm soft face with specks of teal and red.
    All eyes watched him as he watched her glide in.
    The vows were made for love to last through death.
    He says 'it shall' and stands to greet the wind.


    well. lol. that took a while. im pretty sure i didnt do most of it right. but i sure had fun trying it out. let me know if this is good. thanks!

    Blu

  • lordoftherings gold member
    February 6, 2005
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    Goldmare: I just added something to the page about Iambic syllables if you wish to come back and take a look at it, does this make it easier to understand? Gregg
    Edited on Feb 06, 9:52 p.m. because ''.

  • lordoftherings gold member
    February 6, 2005
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    Ephemeral: If you need to pick my brain and ask questions please fel free to IM me and I will get back to you as quick as I can on the subject matter between everything else. I am glad to have you aboard and try this new form and am very excited about it and anxious to see what will be composed. Pe4ce Gregg

  • April Renee
    February 6, 2005
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    wow. that sure is a brain full. i am really interested in this. and i will be trying this tonight. lol. but what im confused on is the octave part and sestet....can you give me the basic outline...

    does it have to be octave, haiku, sestet...or could it be sestet, haiku, sestet.

    mind you, i will be looking all these forms up as i know nothing about them..lol..but if you could break it down to the simplest form...

    thanks so much. very interesting!

    Blu
    Edited on Feb 06, 8:34 p.m. because ''.


  • Michael Schiewer
    February 6, 2005
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    I am just starting out with the whole poetry thing, so this was very helpful.

  • Goldmare
    February 6, 2005
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    I take that back...now I understand how it is writing the syllable count...gah that was a bit hard to understand though.

  • Goldmare
    February 6, 2005
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    lordoftherings: There's nothing about how many syllables in the column...and I don't know what the stressed/unstressed stuff means anyway, so I'm looking it up. (I just found a column and am printing it out.)

    As for commenting, no problem! I really like the look of the form! More challenging than any that I've created.


  • Simi
    February 6, 2005
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    Whoa Greg !! This is just awesome and so creative. THis sounds like quite a challenge and am going to try to sit down and pen one of these myself when I have the time

    But will get around to it and probably pick your brain when I have queries. Gonna bookmark this page now

    Love
    Effie

  • lordoftherings gold member
    February 6, 2005
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    Goldmare: The line syllables are already up, all you have to do is print this page and all the info is there for you, nothing to look up. Gregg Thanks for clicking and commenting, much appreciated!
    Edited on Feb 06, 7:52 p.m. because ''.

  • Goldmare
    February 6, 2005
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    Ooooh this sounds quite challenging! Especially for me, one who perfers writing free verse to rhyming forms.

    However, I'm always happy to try out new forms, and I love writing haiku, so at least that's a start. Unfortunately, I've never even attempted a sonnet before. I'll look up the iambic pentameter to find out what that's all about and hopefully I'll be able to give this cool new form a shot! At least I have a good amount of time to practice! (And your birthday is two days after mine! Cool! ^_^)

    Nicely done in creating this! It's really cool!

    ~Goldmare~
    I believe in the sun even when it is not shining.
    I believe in love even when I do not feel it.
    I believe in God even when He is silent.

  • lordoftherings gold member
    February 6, 2005
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    Annandhel: Please help me to become famous like Shakespeare, Spencer, et al! As I noted at the bottom, we should try to get the form down first and then work on the meter after, I sure would love to have you on board to try this experimental form that may become famous one day, oh I have big dreams. Gregg


  • Fridays Child
    February 6, 2005
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    Hmm... sonnets and haikus, huh? I've never really been a fan of haikus, but I love(!) writing sonnets. I even perfected my own form of a sonnet; it's a combination of Italian and Shakespearean sonnets, my two favorites. I am debating entering this class/contest. This sounds like a fun challenge that I'd love to try, but my iambic pentameter is none too good. lol Well, good luck everything! Never give in, Annandhel.


  • myron silver member
    February 6, 2005
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    innovative

    what a fascinating concept.

    well done. i like exploring the old forms and writing variations of them...

    glad to see this delicious piece of innovation here.


  • M.A.King
    February 6, 2005
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    You have given me something to wrap my muse around. Of late I have been in a rut/block. I do not know that I could ever accomplish this but I feel excited to play with the form and see. Very, very creative and I am grateful to have found this column. I admire the skill and love of the forms that went into this idea.

  • lordoftherings gold member
    February 6, 2005
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    Cutiepie: My dear friend, last year if I came across a page like this I would have said the same thing in a comment, but with Haikumonk and Demented Sonneteer you will be able to master this new form with no problem, okay maybe a few clitches in the beginning but then practice makes perfect. I know this because before taking their classes I was scared even to tackle a sonnet or a proper haiku, and now look. Gregg


  • cutiepie gold member
    February 6, 2005
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    Excellent

    I am going to be honest and tell you straight off that this is beyond me....having said that as soon as I have mastered the Haiku I intend to start on Sonnets and so on, so if I am still breathing by the time I have achieved that much then I will certainly check out your new form. I look forward to moving forward Good luck with this Gregg, I know you must have worked long and hard at perfecting it


  • sanity
    February 6, 2005
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    This sounds like a brilliant form Gregg, as you know I am in love with form poetry, so I will be practicing this, hoping that I can get my head around things..............

    take care

    sanity

  • fullmoon
    February 6, 2005
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    Thanks for the ideas

    very good I have enjoyed reading this new form, but looks and sounds very complicated to me, is it. Very interesting

  • forever-broken
    February 6, 2005
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    whoa! this was pretty cool. Keep up the good work


  • CarterTachikawa
    February 6, 2005
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    It looks scary and challenging but hey, I love challenges. I can't wait to try this new form out. I also can't wait until you open your contest for these interesting forms. I don't know if any of my poems will be up to par but I'm willing to give it a shot. Thanks for introducing the idea. See you in March!

    ~CT

  • trexsandwich
    February 6, 2005
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    Wow.. sounds good to me... very challenging. Always cool to hear people experimenting with forms. Thanks for the idea.


  • lightwithinyourdark
    February 6, 2005
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    great idea. keep writing!


  • hugh wyles silver member
    February 6, 2005
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    Challenging

    Dear Gregg,
    I look forward to the challenge which this prospect involves and can visualise distinct possibilities for your new form.
    Will you allow anapaests (weak,weak,STRONG) in the iambic pentameter lines or must they strictly adhere to the weak/strong rhythm throughout? Why "Sonnekui"? Surely "Sonneku" would do?
    SusanL and I are always looking for ways to extend and enhance sonnet writing and I think you may have offerred a new way.
    Applause, best wishes and regards, Hugh.
    Edited on Feb 06, 3:48 p.m. because 'Added pearl of wisdom.'.


  • blondeoverblue
    February 6, 2005
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    That's only just over a month to perfect this, might be cutting it fine, but I shall give it a go

    Kat xxx


  • thisispast
    February 6, 2005
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    interesting new form, i might give it a try.

  • lordoftherings gold member
    February 6, 2005
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    Genielassie: oh you sweetie you, I was hoping you would notice this and since I highly respect your writings as a poet and critiquer, I am happy to see that you will be giving this a shot, along with the rest of us and seeing if we can pull this new form off. Thank you so much for your support. gregg

  • Uncontrolable FrEaK
    February 6, 2005
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    great poem! i love it dont ever stop writing you are truly talented... is that good? ps i love the picture!
    Edited on Feb 06, 12:12 because ''.


  • haikumonk gold member
    February 6, 2005
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    Thanks so much for the dedication. I really appreciate it. Best of luck to you with the contest. Don

  • JM Kenyon silver member
    February 6, 2005
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    It almost sounds intimidating, but I am always up for tackling new things. I'll be looking for the contest and hopefully will succeed in combining an Italian sonnet with haiku! Best wishes...~genielassie~


  • Claramata
    February 6, 2005
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    This is really an interesting idea... cool!


  • Butterfly Genie
    February 6, 2005
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    hmm.. Im not sure if I am supposed to comment on a collumn or not, but I think I will. This looks like an intersting contest that I will have to take some looking into. Looks like it would be some challenge, but fun! *scratches head* Well see! Blessed be.
    Love ~ Jess ~


  • crystaldust gold member
    February 6, 2005
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    crystaldust 06-02-05 11:16
    This is a fascinating challenge. It ought to get my fast addling brain into some kind of gear, if not shape, if I can re-anchor my muse. She does like flitting off and watching me from afar. Mind you, there's no way I shall enter this unless I'm satisfied that I may have come up to standard. It will be fun, however, trying. Good luck with it. I can think of two or three poets who will probably love to give it a go. I hope they do. Cheers.


  • Am8ur
    February 6, 2005
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    this most definately sounds like a challenge, i am not sure if i am up to it it will be interesting to watch how this go's though. Good luck til


  • iamfromabove
    February 6, 2005
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    Well not sure how I will go but I'll have a try. Mia


  • VF Evangelista
    February 6, 2005
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    cool

    Wow! Gregg. Thank you very much. I greatly appreciate this!


  • February 6, 2005
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    this is cool- i like to see people playing with form, innovating. nice

    ex oh pseudofemme


  • angelica silver member
    February 6, 2005
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    Hey gregg, my sons Birthday is on March 13th,he will be 39, so no way will I miss your Birthday~Lovesya dearly~Joan

  • lordoftherings gold member
    February 6, 2005
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    LadyLuna666: I am not expecting a wave of poets to jump on the bandwagon right away, but perhaps I will go down in history as creating a new form of poetry and become famous! Oh well, dreams are still attainable and the light still shines in my hazel eyes as I am excited over what will become of this. Yep, I smoked again ! Gregg
    Edited on Feb 06 because ''.


  • Miykie
    February 6, 2005
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    Thank you for an intersting challenge to write...You are a stellar poetics techician with unquestionable wit and intelligence...Thanks again Gregg...


  • MoonLitStars
    February 6, 2005
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    Well Greeg i just finised writing 2 seperate poems for another contes in the forms Lira and Sheshire and they were difficult. And i hope to do this one as well im writing down what the info i need is already and as soona su have it open it will be ready. love and light and i think its intresting.


  • February 6, 2005
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    I don't think I'll be joining any contest of yours that has this lol..
    I suck at form poetry for one..
    And there's no way I'd be able to do that darn good with meter lol.

    Good luck with your future contest Gregg



    ~~Jessica

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