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A little consideration

Take a moment to consider. Not everyone has had the same formal training, but we all share a love of writing.

Hello, 

 

        I am not quite sure if we've met, but allow me to introduce myself, my name is Catressa. I am a wife and mother with no formal education.

 

My idea for this letter came as I watched a few comments on some poems today. I think somewhere along the way people began to lose sight of the fact that not all of us come to ALLPOETRY, ALL KNOWING. 

 

We come here to learn.

 We come here to share, to express our feelings. 

 

If you are someone with vast experience then by all means please TEACH.

But don't talk down to others and make anyone feel inferior. No one likes to be made to feel LESS. 

When I say less, I mean it as, Less of an education, Less experience, less than equal.

 I am sure many of you understand this.

 

This is a site where people should be able to come and get away and relax. Everyone has a right to learn.  

 

But no one has the right to make anyone feel bad.

 

Use the old adage "If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all".

 

I know it sounds lame, but kindness does go a long way. 

 

 

 

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  • My Nemesis
    December 23, 2007
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    Yes. Well said. I think sometimes it is easy to hide behind the fact that this isn't 'real'. That we don't have to face the person we are cutting to pieces, and that makes it easy for some people to go overboard. It ocmes down to - treat others the way you would like to be treated. No one wants to be made to feel like last weeks garbage.


  • Ogreatbaldone gold member
    December 23, 2007
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    very well said my friend...peace terry

  • Night Hope gold member
    December 23, 2007
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    I agree with everything you've said here, Cat. I have seen comments before that resembled crime scenes, with bodies strewn in their wake. Just because you CAN be mean doesn't mean you SHOULD be. As we all know, mean people suck. Usually, it was some adult with a chip on their shoulder, slinging cruelty at younger writers instead of trying to be helpful. I bark back at 'em, in that type of situation. I also let the "victim" know how to block jerks like that & who they can read & comment on to obtain the knowledge they so richly deserve. NO ONE knows everything. We all have lessons to teach & lessons to learn. I'm proud of you for speaking up, Sweetie. More people should. If ya ever need any back up, ya know ol' Swanee will turn pitbull in a heartbeat. Hell, I was a lit major in college & worked in a library for 12 years. I still don't know everything, nor would I ever claim to. In fact, my writing has improved so much since I joined AP, largely due to the incredibly talented voices who were willing to step forward & give suggestions. I may not heed all of them, but I'm definitely listening. Plant a seed & watch it grow. It's an amazing feeling. Happy holidays to you & yours, my Friend. Love ya, Lady. Wanda
  • Dienush Greeters member
    December 23, 2007
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    Nice column. I like and agree to the message here. I have seen some AP members really treat others without any trace of respect because they thought themselves better. On the other hand, I've also seen people take offense and whine about polite constructive criticism. I don't know what kind of comment you saw, but generally speaking I think it's a fine line. Anyway, I think that if this is read properly everyone should understand and appreciate what you're saying.

  • poetryality silver member
    December 23, 2007
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    Ditto! What Catressa said... up there!

  • Danna Hobart
    December 23, 2007
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    Well, I have been one who has been accused of behaving as if I am ALL KNOWING, however, that is not really my intent. In my observations and suggestions I tried to teach, but sadly discovered that not everyone wants to learn. That's why I've quit commenting on strangers' poetry, pretty much, unless they enter one of my contests, or they ask for a comment.

    • Night Hope gold member
      December 23, 2007
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      The difference is that you're not mean about your comments & suggestions, Danna. I've had younger writers that I IM'd spelling mistakes to & they've indicated that "it's their style", rejecting any help whatsoever, which is their perogative. I've also had people leave nasty remarks on my work just because they could...at least, until I blocked 'em. I am always ready & willing to learn from people, as long as they're not arrogant about it, & you're not. Wanda

      • Danna Hobart
        December 23, 2007
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        Thank you, Wanda, but I think I've gotten a little over-enthususiastic sometimes and overwhelmed people with my suggestions. I am trying not to do that anymore.

        • Night Hope gold member
          December 23, 2007
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          I've been known to get a lil' over~defensive about my own writing, too. I look at critique like this: someone comes up & tells you, "My, what a lovely child. But they would be so much cuter if you put their nose on the OTHER side of their face." Everyone is possessive about their own writing. As for me, it's the ONLY thing I'm somewhat secure about, so I don't need an arrogant & illiterate 15 year old kid telling me how I should write. (And no, I don't mean all 15 year olds; some of 'em are sheer geniuses.) But I am open to listening to someone who knows what they're talking about. As the saying goes, "You catch more flies with honey than vinegar." I think kindness is much more effective than cruelty. Kinda like bill collectors: they only talk nasty to you because they're on the phone, not lookin' ya in the eye. No one deserves to be spoken to meanly or in a condescending manner. After all, we're all moody Poets 'round here. Ya never know how people will react. Merry Christmas to you & yours, Danna. Wanda

          • Danna Hobart
            December 23, 2007
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            Moody is right myself included.

            I am taking a little break from wrapping presents.

            Thanks for all the kind words, and thank you, Catressa for writing this column to remind everyone to keep their egos in check.

            Merry Christmas to everyone.
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