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Grumps from an old Pote

maggoty old pote rattles on about shallow irrelevent emotion that has nothing to do with Poetry, while illustrating his further frustration with immature readers who would rather rack up pointless points rather than learn something about the richness of Life.

and so on, ad nauseum.
maybe I should go deaf, or blind, cut my self with dull razor blades, or rattle on and on about how useless I am.

The other day a friend of mine put one of my poems in the feature box, 10 clicks at 42. Man, if people are spending that kinda wompum on the idiotic box people oughta at least say, "man, this sucked". If it's not about their experience in their pop art little world they just click and move on callously. Then they write something maudlin in truly bad English about how the world should change cause they got wee-wee up their ass.

And by the way, Kevin: if people are putting out that kind of cashola for the shit in the feature box is it any wonder that all you get is: Great work, Kerrp writing" (usually spelled wrong so they can get on to to the next money changer outside the temple walls.)
That feature should be based on Merit, not mammon.

Education--get some! Jeezus, you wanta be ignorant go do it somewhere else, go blog, go to youTube and whine, stand in line at Wal-mart, listen to the latest pitiful whine from the iPOD. Right here you have a wealth of experience at your finger tips, use it, use them, use us, and get better at Life. Learning is not a scary thing. Look up Carole Dudley and understand what life holds in store for You, look up Myrratal and discover beauty. It ain't all about you, it's about us, deal with it.

You wanta post confessional babble, you want other people to care, you want people to see the real you; that's fine, but it's not what poetry is about.

Ah, like blowin smoke up a bull's ass, it ain't goin nowhere. I do apologize if I have offended any of those poor little tender souls who think Jesus made the whole world just for them to whine about.

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  • Rheea gold member
    February 21
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    Lute, to each his or her own I do not like a lot of it but they have a right to do it. As much as most like your poetry and I do..to me your sexist in a lot of it . So I look around it for the beauty. This site is open and for profit . Unless you want to open your own to teach how are you going to fight that? A lot form groups just as the pub exists the groups exist for emotional support all kinds of people have the same rights you do.


  • cvillelisa
    September 1, 2008
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    Morning!


  • Cannonsfire
    July 29, 2008
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    Well I came back to leave a comment here Mr Lute because for the first time I had a gripe with a person's poem and sadly I thought to tell her the truth was the way to go but as I found out and as D P Robertson found out who backed me up, we both got dissed by a bratty prima donna who think's poetry is all about being correct with form and doesn't need emotion. All because I said three little words to her 'devoid of emotion' in my opinion. lol It has caused world war three!! Kind of funny actually because I can't do form anyway so I purely look at a piece for how it makes me feel and her one gave me diddly squat. She shall remain nameless other than to quote her nickname of 'Queen of Form' one I think she has sadly taken to heart and one that has caused her to send me a message saying 'she will be a great poet one day and will not allow a group or anyone to hold her back'..I wish her luck as I was not personal in any way. The only thing it has served to make me do is make sure I still remain honest when I comment. I may be way off the mark with it but I will endeavor to say what I think and how it made me feel and think. If it disses someone off well too bad I'm not apologizing to those poor tender souls you describe...they can kiss my southern ass!


  • windhover3 gold member
    July 15, 2007
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    i'm currently too depressed to intelligently comment. i'd say "kerp writing" but i don't think my opinion will matter one iota. i guess guess i'll just thank you for prodding people. and drop a 5 point clappy (or whatever their worth) to feed the fire that pokes. HEY!!?!! I have no clappy option? That sucks. Dammit, that means I'm gonna have to actually read your poems to support you. OY, the sacrifices I am called upon to make...


  • DevonJM
    July 14, 2007
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    *thumbs up rolling into drum roll*

    Forgetting failed fencing for friendly fire figures fate fails freak fission feign forever from filling fake foreigner family friends.

    Figure for fencing friend


    • myrataal silver member
      July 8
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      Wow Devon ...

      you should explain this one to me in simple tongue



      Or I will tackle you.

      BUZZ


  • Mulefa
    July 14, 2007
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    Oh dear I feel bad because you yourself had a poom in the featury box earlier and I clicked it, read it and VERY callously didn't comment. I commenty on another one instead which I liked more because it spoke more to me about my callous little life mostly. Readers is allowed to be selfish isn't they? Just like writers. Or maybe it's something to do with empathy, who knows.

    Hey. youtube's cool, pretty egalitarian init. Dey got viddies of cartoons animating Billy Collins' pooms and fingys.

    Everyone like something maudlin anyways.

    You do sound Grumpy. Should of put the grumps in a lovely poom. One of those whipper snappers will come and try to sell you chill pills. Uh oh. Just say no.

    • windhover3 gold member
      July 15, 2007
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      readers are _allowed_ to be selfish, but we should frown upon it, just as we do when exhibited by kids in a sandbox. One of the problems with this site (and most others), is that people only comment to the good. It is selfish to take points and not give feedback. It also creates a state of laziness from which readers lose the ability to actually make discerning judgements. Commenting critically is _good_ for you, like eating your vegetables... it builds strength.

      • Mulefa
        July 18, 2007
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        Blergh. I don't know, I kind of think you've got to remember that most the school aged people on this webiste, who a lot of people seem to get pretty snide about as they're the easiest targets, are "commenting critically" on poetry every week in the classroom, and maybe aren't that up for replicating their essays on here. I think it's great there's a lot of young people using this website to experience poetry - even if they're writing something maudlin in truly bad English, it's better than not writing. I mean there's a lot of older people doing that too obviously, obviously and some brilliant, truly fucking immence younger writers on here like Phoebe, who barely gets any reads and deserves way more, and it's sad. I think it's pretty funny to snide the i pod and youtube and whatever else "generation" then whine about virtual poem points. I don't see how cyberypoempoints are remotely old school (umm skool) you know? I don't know it pisses me off when a generation gets characterised by stuff like that, it seems unfair. Lot of people with those i pods and you tube acocunts were on the million march but repeatedly they get projected as entirely shallow, materialistic and self involved. I'm not talking about what Lute said here really, I don't think he's like that at all, just the way they're constructed in the media and by older people in general (very very in general). Anyway Lute wasn't talking about teenagers specifically but other people in this thread have and I think it's pretty closed minded.

        I don't think people should frown on it, I think they should feel bloody lucky anyone's reading them at all mostly.

        The amount of poetic analysis these young people are doing for GCSE and even before that is a hell of a lot, the amount they're doing for A level and beyond is mad. Doesn't surprise me if they can't really be arsed to on here.


  • myrataal silver member
    July 14, 2007
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    Now I blush, Poet ...

    Thank you.

  • cvillelisa
    July 14, 2007
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    Why you think those people run with the bulls in the street of Spain? They could probably use some of that smoke to blow up the bulls asses you know - maybe less people get gored and dead. Me? I couldn't cut myself I'm not good with blood stuff like that. Heard it has something to do with releasing endorphins. Sad really that we have a generation growing up hurting themselves to get high. When they could be hurting themselves learning.

    I note you did not include:

    READ CVILLELISA

    Did you know that poets/artists etc. have huge sensitive egos?

    Did this feel good to get out? Sometimes you just got too. You know teenagers ? They really only care about themselves and their friends and their parents for money and rides. It is their rite it seems, the maker of teenagers seemed to have conferred with the boss on this for it is fairly universal.

    This a bit "I used to have to walk 29,000 miles in the snow, up hill, in my barefeet, in the middle of the winter in 18,0000 feet of snow to get to school."

    However that is true. And it always will be no matter what elder is saying it. So it is always good to say once in a while. But not sure we can blame just the self-centered teenagers here cause seems there is an entire Jerry Springer Generation that believes entertainment is watching two sisters beat the crap out of each other cause they slept with the same guy (their father's best friend) on t.v.

    Hey. I'd like to stay and talk more about this subject (what was the subject again???) but I got a teenager to pick up at drum lessons. See he's going to be a big rock star -- well not too big because he thinks that record companies are just big pimps making money off the real artists - the musicans. He just wants to play for people and infect them with his brand of The Message. (no that ain't like The Secret which brings you everything you want in life by just thinking it) The Message is about art about Life ...

    okies. Feels good to let it rip. Yup.


  • Grunts Girl gold member
    July 14, 2007
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    Great work!!!! keep writtting!! WOW this totally wickedly like sparked me in that I have no clue what your saying way but maybe if I ramble on about how wonderful a poet you are and how f'ing GOD like you write then you will like me..
    really really like me
    and I would like to thank the members of the academy.... all of my friends and supporters for making me a bullshit commenter and acting like I know everything about writing because I am 17 and started writing like when I was 13 and I am like published in school and shit and so because of that I know everything and when I dont understand what the hell you wrote, I can just shit on what ever the rhyme is (and funny thing there is no rhyme its a free verse)... but DOH they missed that ...

    ********ok stopping myself


    nice column lol

    I dunno... when I blew smoke up a bull's ass he got pretty pissed and butted me out of the pen

    C'mon... it is all about them... don't you realize that??? Besides if they are religious they will forgive your wayward little shallow soul.



    ohhh i am so going to hell.


  • passionvine
    July 14, 2007
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    Tarnation, Friend -- I spect you been nippin'

    I spect you been nippin. That’s what I low leastswise.

    My Uncle Bill yust to take me with him to the licker store, which was located in a hollow stump in the hills up to Goshen ways. He’d leave some foldin money in the stump, we’d drive back down inter the valley come back, and there’s be a jug of sumthun – I’s little back then so he wouldn’t let me have narry a drop

    anyways

    I thinks you been nippin’ all fahred up n all.

    So yeah – i calls them the I-Pod generation casuin they spect to jes have everthin smack dab shot inter their brains or sumpthun with lot intellectualitin or thoughts

    he he

    likes the part bout jesus givin a rat’s hairy behind bout their whining an all

    he he

    i be still chuckling bout that one

    i like this here piece up writing you done worked up a lot

    even though I still spect you were nippin whilst you writ it

    Peace.

  • zara
    July 14, 2007
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    breathe

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