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Poll: When friends are notified of your new poem by email, would you prefer ?


  • Kevin
    Nov 8 4:39 PM
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    the full poem to be shown in the email
    an few lines of the poem and a link
    just a link
    no preference

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  • Kevin
    November 8

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    I'm considering making just the 'few lines' what gets emailed out in the future, but thought I'd ask for peoples opinions first before making another change.

    Sorry that I didn't ask this earlier in the process; I hadn't thought it through well enough to realize it might be a controversial topic.

    My other defense is that the feature was originally conceived for journal entries, which might make more sense (imagine sending your friends and family updates about your travels in europe, etc).

    Anyways, thanks for being a member of allpoetry, and for your patience while we work through adjusting updates
    • Question

      Do we have to disable the feature separately on all the network sites then- like -do I need to disable on All Journal and Share Poetry and StoryWrite as well if I don't want to send or receive notification of my posts or those of others from any of the netwrok sites, or will disabling on AllPoetry disable it for all the other sites as well?

      • Kevin
        November 9

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        currently it's separate - though the default should also no longer include new posts by favorite, so just new friend adds and new comments on your work.

        I may add a 'set all the sister sites to these preferences' link on that page as well.
    • Kevin,

      I want to start this comment by telling you how much I have enjoyed this site since joining. I have become a silver member. I have posted a couple of comments related to my disatisfaction with the new email notification system. I was hoping to be able to disable the function. Apparently I do not understand how to do this or the bugs are not yet worked out of the system. At first I planned on leaving the site if I got no response to my comments or was not able to disable the function.

      I am no hoping that by putting all AP information into junk mail, my email will not longer be cluttered with these notifications. I am also hoping that no notifications of my poetry will go to other peoples email. Can you tell me how to determine if my settings are correct to prevent this?

      Mike

      • My mistake; Kevin apparently added this feature between the last time I checked and now. You can go in under your email notification settings and check the box, "Don't email my poems to my favorites when I post them". That would be under your account link near the bottom.

    • S A Adelmann
      November 10

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      Why not just go to "My Account", and look under "personal Information". Then click on "Edit Email and notification preferences".

      Every option your heart desires is available right there.

      Why is this messing with so many people's heads? (it may have had some problems at the beginning, but it seems to be working just fine, now. Easy as pie.

      • Kevin
        November 10

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        Thanks for your reply scott, that was pretty much what I was going to say

        A new column is coming soon too, FYI, as more changes were made today.

        • Yvette Champ
          November 10

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          Kevin...

          I am even more confused, you reply to SAA who is NOT concerened with a FYI,

          but not to me, who is concerned.




        • S A Adelmann
          November 10

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          Thanks, Kevin - and, since I am forever being accused of brown-nosing, f' you, buddy.

  • Nogod
    November 9

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    Friends


    [after a few minutes of thought]

    ooohhh ... friends


    ...



    I don't want anybody emailed when I post something in the poetry section.

    Will there be a do not email button?

  • NoIQ
    November 9

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    I haven't posted a poem since this feature became available, so it really hasn't impacted me.

    However, if I understand the feature correctly (and I really might not, as I haven't as yet used it), I think it would be prudent to include defaults like what most blogs, Facebook and other social network sites offer regarding notifications. That is, you can (a) affirmatively permit or not permit your poems to be sent to friends, and (b) you can either permit or block notifications of poems being sent to you by friends.

    I receive enough junk mail in my various email accounts, that I really don't want them cluttered with any new notifications that I don't specifically authorize. Plus, I check some email accounts far less regularly than others.

    Most social networks have gone to such permissions for a reason -- user reaction is overwhelmingly negative to receiving notifications that the user did not have a say in receiving.

    Again, though, my sincere apologies if I am misunderstanding the new feature such that this post is superfluous, as I have not as yet used the email notification feature and thus may misunderstand it.
    • If people on your list of favourites/friends have posted, you will have been sent an email about it . That is, if the email address you have registered here is functional. It appears to be a going out and a coming in thing, which (it would appear) can be disabled or enable separately, but you need to physically opt out of it if that's what you want.

      That's how I understand it anyway.


      • NoIQ
        November 9

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        Thanks. I use an active AOL email account that I virtually never check as my default for this site. My lack of review of messages there would appear to be the reason I also was unaware that I was "receiving" notifications about new poems. All the more reason not to check it ....

  • cvillelisa
    November 9

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    Are there people that actually want the allpoetry network sending their poems to people unsolicited?

  • I would prefer my poems not to be sent through email at all. if my friends/favourites want to read my poetry, it will show up on their homepage when I post something new. and if it is not on their homepage, they know how to navigate to my page.

    that's my vote...

  • Hope Angel
    November 9

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    I don't want to be emailed when someone posts a poem at all and nor do I want to be bombarding other people's inboxes when I post a poem.

    If I want to see what my favorites have written there is a button conviently under Recently Added.

    Is there way to turn this off?

  • -BlackKnight-
    November 10

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    I'd prefer that an e-mail not get sent. If the people who have me on their favorite's list want to see whatever new poem I've written, it's pretty easy to find.

  • just mercedes
    November 10

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    I don't want an email sent, or even a link though that's what I voted - you had no option for no notification of anything, please and thanks.

    I want to prevent these going out to all those who have me as a fav. Do I have to put them on ignore one by one, delete myself as a fav, and scurry around doing it again if they link me as a fav again - to stop this from happening? This will take an awful lot of effort.

  • Nogod
    November 10

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    Right ..... based on the views of the people here NO email should be sent to anyone when a poem is posted.

    It seems no one wants it.

    This means the idea should be binned completely.


  • Cat
    November 10

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    this is an absolutely terrible idea

    there is no way i want an email sent out to anyone when i post a poem.. if they are interested they can come look at it on site...


    Kevin... it's a terrible idea on facebook
    and an even worse idea here... what are thinking?
    Why would anyone want this?
    What is the advantage to it?


  • AutoPilate
    November 10

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    Where's the option to not have the notification emailed at all?

    • jantastic
      November 10

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      Under my account. Update e-mail and notification settings. You can uncheck all the things you don't want to be e-mailed about and even check not to have your new poems e-mailed to people (as I did).
  • I neither see the point of email notifications for poetry, nor do I want them ~ to be notified of other people's posts, or for my work to be sent out. I like to keep track of where it's being posted; I can't do that if it's all being sent out to email addresses I know nothing about. There are some people on here, including myself, who at times post a lot of poems in one go. I don't want my inbox being clogged by that; I've had enough of that with Facebook, mailing me over every trivial comment when I was reading and responding to them on there at the time they were sent anyway!!!!! These discussion threads only perpetuate my concern, Kevin, that you're focusing on needless minutae, and trying to make the site compete with/resemble the likes of Facebook more and more, despite protests from members on various boards here that it's the last thing they want!

    With the exception for Mods/yourself/Admin to contact a person by email about AP matters, why on Earth does a poet's email have to be used by the site for ANY other reason? We are here ... our poetry is here ... if people want to read it, come find it! It's really that simple!!!

    In the old days you kept asking for improvements that could be made to AP, and how AP could be made into a more polished site for poets and poetry, with more credibility. The simplest and most effective way to do this is to stop pondering on gimmicks, and enhance the poetry-writing and reading aspects of the site foremost. Polish the page image ... keep the basic page colour and border formatting, but get rid of all those horrid, tacky, garish themes and backgrounds. The "community" aspect will more or less take care of itself. We don't need endless gimmicks and new tricks ... it's essentially the profile pages and poetry through which we all network, connect and socialise anyway!

    I dislike the new concept of "Friends". Return to the old favourites list, or better still, do what Editred.com do, and have what is simply a "Readers-List". A considerable number of people on my contacts lists here are neither Friends nor Favourites ... they are people generally whose works I read occasionally, or whose username is put into my Favourites if they have asked me to do some critiquing or editing work for them, so I can better keep track of them. Of course there are a few people such as Poet2Angels and Night Hope for instance, who I do regard as Friends and Favourites both, and who I have known a long time. A Readers-List also gives the site more polish, and a better public image as being a poetry site worth being taken seriously. Run annual opportunities for AP anthologies to be published and sold, and for all entries to recommended/voted on etc. Link the site with Lulu and such, and focus on offering info services and publishing lists, all the latest news on the poetry publishing world. Those are things that could improve AP, not Profile-Tabs, Emailed-Poem Notices, or anything such. You're just creating more work for yourself (and for we who have to read/delete the emails we get), rather than making real changes that really would be of benefit - to the site and all its users.



  • Your comment was added:
    I have deleted all my 'favourites' except for one, but the counter on my page says I have 2favorites. The Bear have deleted all of his except one, and he apparently has 3 favorites. In the light of all this email spamming by the site, this worries us. Who are these other invisible favourites who would have been able to access our email in box simply by posting on here?

    [worries]

    • S A Adelmann
      November 10

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      I am he. And if I ever write another poem, you will get it in your email, whether you want it there or not.

    • Kevin
      November 10

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      The easier way would be to just uncheck that box in the notification settings...

  • Cat
    November 10

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    how have these notifications been sent? does it show that the site is sending them or does it appear we are overly ambitious and sending out our poetry--- ?

    • S A Adelmann
      November 10

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      I have received some - they definitely look like they are site-initiated.

      • Cat
        November 10

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        oh good! I have a couple people i need to apologize to for the unsolicited mailings-- didn't know how much ESPLAIN'n i had to do...

        also.. how long has this been going on?

    • Kevin
      November 10

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      Only for a week, with a max of one email per week if they haven't logged in since then. So max one email.

      The defaults are changing to not include new poems by favorites, expect another new column posted soon.

  • ea
    November 10

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    The good thing about receiving these blue background complete with AP bannered postings is that your friends can potentially comment on your poems from right there in their emails without having to bother to come here, but then they try it and it tells them they need an updated browser.

    • AutoPilate
      November 10

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      I don't see why that's necessarily better than them just coming to the site, seeing what their favourites have added recently, then commenting.
  • Well currently I am not receiving any notifications...phew! I checked or unchecked(whatever it was lol) and that seemso be working. Should there be an override on that I will have no choice but to delete all my fries and favourites

  • Cat
    November 10

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    kevin,

    when was this started? i have to figure out how much damage control i need to do.

    • S A Adelmann
      November 10

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      I don't think anyone who has you on their favorites list would blame you for the emails. (The system started about a week and a half ago, maybe two weeks.)

      Another note: the default setting resets notifications every time a person logs in - so anyone who comes here once or twice a day will not receive most notifications (the system pretty much assumes that if you are logging in you know what your faves are up to). So, really, the only people who got notifications would be the folks who aren't here every day. I received maybe a half dozen notifications before I shut them off this morning.
  • maybe this is my blond moment but... erm...

    i didnt know email notifications were sent out when you posted a new poem.

  • Astrid
    November 10

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    Basically, my problem.

    If there's an option to "judge a book by its cover" -- or say, just by the first few lines.

    OR

    View the entire poem in email, that'd cause a lot less people to voluntarily view poems just because they read it first in their email, not on the poet's page.

    So.
    A like would be dandy.

  • Lady Wildheart
    November 10

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    I would like my poems to be a surprise. I want them to take time to visit my page n read it only if they want to...not for it to be shoved into their inbox. Then they feel obliged to read it n thats not how I want my poetry to be viewed. Thanks for the option ne ways but personally i like it the way it is!
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