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removing entries after commenting


  • polly filla
    Nov 3 2:02 AM
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    I'm finding some people are removing their poems from my contests once I've commented - probably because they don't like the comment...this is frustrating, because I've spent time reading & commenting, and I'm not giving negative comments, although I am saying what I think of the poem

    I'd like it if, once a poem was up (in a contest), it can't be taken down, unless the author goes to a moderator

  • just mercedes
    November 3 ↑
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    That's happened to me - I found a way around it is to comment only after the contest is closed - read and make my own notes then post them all at once, judge and it's all over in one quick burst. No-one has time to get upset and hopefully the logic of the judging process is obvious.

    • polly filla
      November 3 ↑
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      yeah - I've been commenting as I go, because I don't like entering a contest & not getting a comment from the contest-holder myself, so as I read, I comment (1st impressions, obviously!) I then go back & read again, and perhaps comment again, depending on whether I've missed anything (I think) on the 1st read

      to be honest, I can't be bothered with making notes - I have enough bits of paper in this office as it is!

      • just mercedes
        November 3 ↑
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        I'm talking virtual - bring up Notepad and save them in your poems - but whatever works for you!

        I state in the contest rules that I'll read but not comment until judging, so the entrants are aware from the start.

    • cvillelisa
      November 4 ↑
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      I do the same thing JM.

      Polly, you could put that as a note in your contest "I will not be commenting until after the contest is closed ..."

      but in the end, some people get all whoozy with honest reactions to their poems and nothing ever changes -- until those people grow in their own poetic exploration and realize that a good crit takes a lot of thought and time and is a real gift -- much more so than the standard "You are a genius and this is the best poem you've ever written" stuff.


      I've often posted here that I wish no comments were allowed until AFTER the contest was judged. But people are too in need of ego stroking for that to happen.



      • polly filla
        November 4 ↑
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        well, I wouldn't say I'm giving a good crit'; I'm just going on my impressions, and trying to say what I think about it without being rude...after all, I find it bizarre that someone would head their poem (in a contest about sound & sense) with a photo of themselves red-faced, straddling a bicycle

        and then, after deleting his 'poem', IM me a few times, miffily telling me 'why' his photo was relevant, and 'why' I'm wrong for being put-off reading the write properly


        • cvillelisa
          November 4 ↑
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          I don't understand how people don't get that posting on the internet invites reaction and interaction. If people don't want reaction (and honest reaction) then why bother putting it here? or anywhere on the web?


  • Matt Holck
    November 3 ↑
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    ask mister lizard,

  • Misskaoz
    November 3 ↑
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    I don't know why they removed their poems, but I did once remove a poem from a contest when the judge left a comment along the lines of "whatever" and that was about it. I thought it was rude and didn't really want to be in anymore of that person contests if they couldn't be a little more respectful. I think judges should have at least enough responsibility to leave a comment that is more than one word.

  • Judith Chandler
    November 3 ↑
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    The thing is the poem still does belong to the person who wrote so I suppose they do have the right to do that. I have come across people who do that after the contest is over, even if they have won sometimes. Like I say, it's their work and they have the right to do that. Hard to tell why they do it but that's really not my business.

    In my opinion.

    • polly filla
      November 4 ↑
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      that's different to what's going on with people removing their entry before the contest is over - but you're right; the write belongs to the author, so it's up to them to put it or remove it where they want

      It's just annoying after spending time reading & commenting, and makes me think the person's being too precious

  • Judith Chandler
    November 4 ↑
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    I do think people should accept the comments they are given. After all your comments as judge may be totally contradicted by the comments of other readers. I still believe it's subjective, and no one can control the reactions of another human being, certainly not of "Da Judge".

    It is annoying to have the number of entries depleted by people removing their entries. I always like to have a half decent number in my contests. So why don't people just suck it up when the judge or anyone else gives them an honestly critical review? Hard to say what motives some of these poets!!!

  • Barry Hodges
    November 4 ↑
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    Often people remove an item after I have told them how dreadful it is. It is my right to say rubbish is rubbish if they submit it to me for comment and it is their right to remove it (and my comment) if they wish. It saves me the trouble of removing the poem for them.

  • piggyback
    November 4 ↑
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    Well, if you put it that way I understand how you feel, though I understand an author who wants to remove theirf poem if you make it clear in a comment the piece has no chance - especially with all the contests open to pre-writes but which request not placing it in more contests at a time.

    Personally, I wouldn't like not being able to remove my poems... I sometimes feel the need to delete something altogether from the site. Though i see how it can be frustrating even if I haven't had that happen to me much.

    I think it would be an awesome idea to have the feature you suggest but make it optionalk, like allowing pre-writes in a contest. that way each contest holder gets to decide if the poems can or cannot be removed and each author gets notified upon entering the contest
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