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  • hendiadys
    Oct 21 10:48 AM
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    It might be extremely interesting to have a count of individual words, especially if divided by age.
  • I'm not sure exactly what you mean. The age of the word or of the person who used it?

  • hendiadys
    October 21

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    You count the words, ie how often they are used, and which ages correspond to their use. Thus, you would expect to find "awesome" used by younger posters, but "thoughtful" used by older posters. Analysis of who uses what word at what age can be very interesting, and will not reveal anything specific about the person using the word.

    • just mercedes
      October 21

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      To know that one person aged 50 used the word 'onyx'? How would that be interesting?

  • arafura
    October 21

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    Awesome topic... one that deserves thoughtful consideration.
  • Would it really tell us anything we didn't already know since, as a group, we are probably aware of that kind of variation already. I'll be using "awesome" if it's appropriate and my age won't stop me! The use of this kind of breakdown would create a bit of a stereotype actually.
  • So what your saying is even if idk how old you are i can just tell from you’re words? That sucks.

    • hendiadys
      October 22

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      Not quite. But if you can relate a certain number of items to a given period in time and find that this no longer happens at another time, you may be able to identify a reason for this. I'm only talking simple statistics and probabilities. Take, for example, the popularity of boys' names. If you're called Dylan you're likely to be older than someone called Jack. But it's only "likely".
      It doesn't have to be words and age. It might be words you use and what part of the country you come from. But if you have big enough samples, it's surprising what conclusions (all always broad-brush, however) can be drawn. For example, if there were a big enough collection of DNA samples, you might be able to check where the Danes and the Vikings settled in the UK and clarify the extent of their occupations.
      Lots of commercial undertakings make use of statistics in a surprising number of ways.

    • DeeCrepit
      October 24

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      Okay, what age is "impecunious"?

      • Matt Holck
        October 24

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        79 apparently
      • I think any "cattle" word would more likely be used by an older person who had to take Latin in high school, but surely you jest.

        • DeeCrepit
          October 24

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          Mooo?

          • Macdonaldus senex fundum habet. E-I-E-I-O. Et in hoc fundo, nonnullas boves domesticas habet. E-I-E-I-O. Cum moo moo hic, cum moo moo ibi. Hic una moo, ibi una moo, ubique una moo moo. Macdonaldus senex fundum habet. E-I-E-I-O.

            • DeeCrepit
              October 25

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              .
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              Et cum ille taurum habet,
              E-I-E-I-O.
              Et in hoc fundo, septem vaccam obesam, E-I-E-I-O.
              Cum moo moo hic,
              cum moo moo ibi. Hic una moo, ibi una moo,
              ubique una moo moo.
              Macdonaldus senex fundum habet. E-I-E-I-NO!

              Will that doodoo do?

              That was fun but the reply-box is too narrow
              Terry
              • Speaking of too narrow, your Latin dictionary must be wider than mine. I can't find "taurum" or "vaccae" or "obesae." Wazzit?

                • DeeCrepit
                  October 25

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                  Aegre fero (Sorry)
                  .


                  taurus (accusative, taurum) And "with the bull"
                  (habet, have--I did not look it up.)
                  vacca (plural, seven cows, vaccae)
                  obesus -a -um, fat (root of "obese")
                  Feminine plural to modify the vaccae.

                  I did not think I would EVER need that dictionary again! Saved since 1948.
                  Thank you!

  • Cynewulf
    October 22

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    If you're called Dylan you're likely to be older than someone called Jack.

    I doubt it.

    if there were a big enough collection of DNA samples, you might be able to check where the Danes and the Vikings settled in the UK
    and clarify the extent of their occupations.


    Or just look for towns ending in -by (Rugby, Whitby, Tenby etc). Many northern people still have Norse descended or Norse inspired names like Jensen, Johnson & Atack.

    As for surnames, I know what smiths did, & shepherd is obvious, but I am not sure about Hancock...lol
    • Reminds me of John Hancock, one of the signers of the American Consitution, with his big signature!

      • Cynewulf
        October 24

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        So that's why Americans idiomatically refer to a signature as a 'John Hancock'!
        • You got it, Pontiac. Pontiac, as you may know, was a famous American native Indian, and is also one of those American cars that ressembles boats. As a Canadian, I am exposed to all this stuff.

          • Cynewulf
            October 24

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            I know GM have stop making the Firebird. It didn't look much like a boat to me. A friend of mine had one for a bit. It looked nice enough but the suspension & brakes were a bit dodgy. It's probably why they stopped making it, it was very easy to wrap it around a lampost!
            • Just referring to the size!

              • Cynewulf
                October 24

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                They shrank it down to the size of a Datsun in the 90s I think. Another mate of mine had an old 1967 SS Camaro (same body-shell as the Firebird). That was not a huge car either, smaller than a Jag XJS I think. It was a beautiful looking car though. It sounded marvellous & the V8 5.7 litre engine was quite powerful. Unfortunately it had the same sort of brakes & suspension as the Firebird. No wonder they stopped building those cars, they were bloody lethal!
                • I am thinking of the Pontiac my dad had, must have been sometime in the '70s. It was huge! Maybe that was before the price of gas went up.

                  I like to admire Rolls Royce's when I see them; now that is poetry on wheels. But, since I don't drive, I would need a driver plus many thousands of $$$$.

                  • Cynewulf
                    October 24

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                    A friend of mine has an old Silver Shadow. It is a nice car.
                    • "He can't afford a Rolls or a Bentley.
                      He has to drive a second hand Ford."

                      - old group, The Kinks

  • hendiadys
    October 24

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    Statistics

    Have a look in Wikipedia.
    • I used to have a job doing market research interviews. The correlation of age and word usage would have been more interesting than most of the ones we had to do!

    • Cynewulf
      October 24

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      Ah....Wikipedia the font of all wisdom. The encyclopaedia that just keeps on giving. So why does it state that the Me 262 was the world's first operational jet fighter then?

      The Gloster Meteor Mk1 went into service in 'A' flight of RAF 616 squadron 10 WHOLE DAYS before the Me 262!

      I used to live in Wales, I knew a hell of a lot of people called 'Dylan' who were under 30. It is a Welsh name. I also knew a few women called Arianrhod & Angharad & even a girl called Blodeudd. I knew a few Gwynedds as well (although like many Welsh names this can be male or female).

      I know two 'Dylans' where I now live in England & both are in their thirties. The only 'Jack' I ever knew was about seventy years old. In fact 'Jack' is usually a variation of 'John'.

      It is considered a little old-fashioned in England. I would check your statistics & correlate them geographically if I were you.

  • Matt Holck
    October 24

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    word count is good for identifying duplicate accounts

  • hendiadys
    October 24

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    I'm sorry, but most of you lot seem to have little idea of what statistics can do. Your loss - alternatively "what the mind doesn't grasp, the heart doesn't grieve over."

    • Cynewulf
      October 24

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      Well, to use a purported quote from Disraeli 'There are lies, damned lies, and statistics'.

      I think that you should up the dosage of your medication. My mind can grasp the concept of someone talking 'complete & utter bollocks' quite easily.

      There again, I am not on any form of medication.

  • DeeCrepit
    October 24

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    Happy idiots?

    This comment antedated all the heap above it.
    Just thought it worth mentioning.
    Not sure why anymore.

  • hendiadys
    October 25

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    So be it. Let me just mention Multivariate Analysis, which is the only technique I know where you can start off not knowing what you ought to be researching and find something really worth investigating.
    You have to have enough information collected in a usable format, and using MA you can then find relationships you never dreamed existed. It may be that a DNA database, or the database that the NHS is trying to develop will, using MA, reveal totally unexpected relationships, causes, social and pathological dangers.
    If people fight shy of being included, totally anonymously, in these databases, they will cause the sample to be less complete than it might be, and solutions to all manner of problems may be deferred or even lost.
    • you can then find relationships you never dreamed existed. So? Anonymously? So we have no right to refuse. That sucks and I use that word, even though I am over 40.

      This morning I thought of the word "butterfingers" when I dropped something. It's a really good thing I am over 50.

    • It's regretable that you gave no concrete example; that might have been persuasive.

  • Cynewulf
    October 25

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    Ad eundum quo nemo ante iit!

    Spaced...the final frontier.

  • hendiadys
    October 25

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    Nunquam illegitimes carborundum.
    Fugax fornicator sis, sed etiam non in tegulis ambulare potes!

  • Matt Holck
    October 25

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    "Book Report" from "You're a Good Man, Charlie Brown!"

    video
    lyrics

  • Cynewulf
    October 25

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    Talking of being ground down...
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