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Ive noticed that every one in support of abortion has already been born
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Wow, you noticed that all by yourself. Well done you.
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I am not going to get into an abortion row with you. Suffice to say that you are obviously against it and I am for the woman's freedom of choice either way. Enough.
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i am on 13
so i dont no if it is right or wrong but my pse teacher wants me 2 find other people thoughts on it
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Yes we should. It's not murder. At the stage where abortians happen whatever we're aborting is far from being a human being, it's more of a parasite, really.
There should be ethical arguments about aborting people when it gets towards the 20th trimester or something. -
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20th TRImester. I know what you meant but I feel like being smug today.
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big words
im 13 i dont understand more simpel and can i note ur opien for my pse class under a growen man ssays
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i hav priten that ic for my class
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if a girl gets raped and shes pregnant she mightnt want to have her rapists child, therefore should be able to get an abortion
but if it can be helped, abortion shouldnt be used as a contraceptive -
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Then she should learn to defend herself, or be more sensible. (Edited by admin).
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nno way
she was more liky over powerd by a scary man like u (ur pic is scary ) this is the teen bored gow old r u 26 -
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Haha, you don't know how much you've just made my day.
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AHHHHHHHHHH
u going to rape me *runs and gets mommy*
i am telling my p.s.e teacher that u think it is a girls fault if they are raped
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The majority of rape victims know their attacker. I couldn't find a statistic for how many were 'asking for it' though. I suspect drink is usually involved.
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Alcohol should not be an excuse as to why rapists get off lightly. It's still disgusting.
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I know, don't worry. As far as I'm concerned a woman could be lying naked in a drunken stupor and she should be safe from being molested or raped. Wouldn't be, but should.
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Of course not: but a woman should still take steps to prevent it happening to herself, and I think that involves wandering around drunk. I would not put promote myself to be an easy victim in any circumstance: instead of looking back and saying that it is all the same, women need to take more steps to prevent it happening to themselves.
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It could just as easy happen to a drunk woman than it can a sober one.
I don't think it's a good idea to restrict woman from drinking or going out because they fear men who live in the same town as them.
Watch Thelma and Louise.
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....Im going to ignore this comment (other than wat Im about to say obviously) because I do not believe that and cannot be bothered to argue. Also I can see ur mind is not going to change
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That's fair enough. People have different opinions, no point fighting over it.
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What?!
So, a girl who is walking her dog, unfortunately gets raped, then to find out the scum has infected her with HIV.
She asked for that? You should tell that to the girls family who live near my dad. THEN they might see sense and hopefully the rapist won't get prosecuted!
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Anyone who has any sort of sense knows that it COULD happen. It's a dangerous world, after all. Like I said, people have gotta be sensible. It goes for people who get mugged or whatever, too.
I'm not saying people should be raped, I'm saying people should make more of an effort to prevent it happening to them. -
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Are you joking? of couse it could happen, how the hell in any way is it someones fault? Thats the same as saying, "for anyone who was attacked in a school shooting, really, it's their own fault for going to school, as these things do happen."
I was mugged in London when I was...15, I wasn't not being sensible, all I did was take out money from a cashpoint. Oh, but because i'm weak and look really young and defenceless, thats my fault?
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Like I said, make more of an effort to stop it from happening. Try not being on your own, especially in London. How can you not understand that's it's a dangerous place to be in on your own? For anyone.
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I wasn't on my own. Yeah I could of prevented it...from not going to London, but i'm not going to stop living my life. People should just learn to have some morals.
Plus, I live an hour away from London, i'm used to it by now. It's really not that dangerous. -
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I don't think you'd be missing much if you never went to London, it's a horrible place in my opinion.
I'm not saying people should stop living their lives to prevent it from happening, it just takes a real idiot to go out and think that there's no chance anything's going to happen to them. -
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It can be a horrible place, but has more vintage shops, gigs, museums, clubs and theatres than any other place near me has to offer.
Obiously anything can happen, but it's easier said than done to defend yourself. Alright for you you're a guy. I'm not even 7 stone or past 5 foot. How am I meant to defend myself in those esituations? -
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By not getting into those situations. You've already said you might be an easier target so how about not flashing money around or ipods or phones or whatever.
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Yes, every bank is open at 8 o clock at night.
Even then, I'd still have to think about the chances of someone robbing that bank. I dont want to get myself in that situation!
I didn't flash anything, He was behind me in the queue, threatened me than took my money, anyway thats not even the point. The point is you can't blame someone if they have to walk their dog, or if they leave their drink unattended for a minute. In this day it's impossible to be safe, even if I do go out and get drunk, that in no way, ever means I deserve what happens to me.
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What about the infants/children who are raped because men believe it will cure them of HIV? How are they meant to make an effort to prevent that from happening to them?
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That's a completely different argument because it's a culture that we don't have.
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Child rape still occurs in western societies.
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True, but more often than not not under the pretense of whatever the other culture belives. I never said anything about children in my argument, they don't know better. I was referring to adults.
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Fine then, what about those adults who are elderly and not physically able to defend themselves, or who have been placed in positions where they are cared for by rapists?
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You're picking holes in what I was saying, maybe I should have made it more clear by saying I was talking about people who were both physically and mentally able to look after themselves properly.
And it looks like I'm being censored and warned left, right and centre here, so I'm happy to keep discussing to the point where I get physically removed. -
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That capability can easily disappear. Considering that most rapes are by those who people know and trust, it would be easy to spike a friend's drink with rohypnol, or a similar substance.
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Then that's the risk you've got to be willing to take. I know someone who tried to spike someone else's drink (we were all part of same friendship group) but she didn't trust him with her drink so she left it when she got back to the bathroom.
You're just got to be careful with people. Think how well you actually know someone, everyone's capable of committing a crime.
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Even then I don't think rape in any circumstance is ever a victims fault.
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I know there are, that's why I'm defending my opinion. I hardly expected there to be many people who have the same opinion as me, it's doesn't really matter, I know plenty of people (male and female) who think the same.
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There's always the morning after pill, or an IUD implant up to a week after. Its basically the first thing you're offered at any hospital, clinic or drop in centre once you say you've been raped. Along with an STI test, obviously. Even if you don't want to tell anyone, the pill is still easy to get.
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yes I know. I just mean if there is no other way. If you are raped and to afraid to tell anyone and are underage you might wait longer to tell anyone (and I dont think you can get the pill if ur underage), so you might need to get an abortion by the time you realise and tell people. of course you could have the kid, but if I doubt youd want to have ur rapists kid
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Yes, you can get the morning after pill if you are underage. I don't think you can get the contraceptive pill but the emergency one you definitely can.
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oh ok then... thats good. but then she might be to embarassed and not thinking straight and stuff...(yes, this is me trying lyk hell to prove my answer. But your reasoning is to damned good!)
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No, I agree with you. The possibility of being pregnant is just so far gone from your mind after it happens.
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i was told u can go to a sti clinic and get the pill or get cheaked out
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That's correct. Most hospitals have a drop in, no-appointment service too, at least in the UK.
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That's assuming that you know what the morning after pill is, and that STI's exist.
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Just a gentle reminder here folks, this is the "Teen" board, try and keep the discussion within limits where it can be discussed by all but doesn't push any limits where it becomes offensive or too much for some k?
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