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Do this , do that , dont do this dont do that........ etc . or else , i put you in hell ...
oh realllllllly ......... why dont you come out and say it !!! -
Would you want to listen?
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only if he can talk ..
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Maybe he doesn't have a mouth?
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Does he need one?
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Well that or vocal chords
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Are you using any now? or your mouth?
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So you think God needs a keyboard?
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Not now, his work is in print.
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he needs to make sense , he cant just throw people in hell for not reading weak and confusing signles
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well , why does he have to sneak at night breathing confusing messages ,then put us in hell for not buying it ..
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In your opinion what sort of place is hell?
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That is a good question , the concept of right and wrong is primitive, regardless of what hell mean , primitive means we do what is needed to survive ,calling some survival measures sins is totally missing the point of human motives (which is to survive , not to learn or to serve or to worship ...etc)
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Maybe he is talking all the time but you are listening for the wrong message.
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why the shady messages , why not abvious and clear like a sun shine ??? -
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Don't forget even the sunshine gets hidden by the clouds. Sometimes you just have to wait for the answers.
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i did not say cloudy day..
humans have been waiting for thousands of years ...... we didnt see anything , every now and then someone would claim that he see dreams and we are suppose to beleive that his dreams are God trying to reach us ... this is rediculous ... is he so cripple that the only way to connect is through a dream of ........whoever??
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Maybe they are obvious and clear. Maybe you are just looking for the wrong thing. Don't expect a voice in your head. And don't expect to go to hell or heaven, either. God is in the details.
The Bible is just one version of God. Believe in the God that works for you - the one who caused beauty, who made truth. Don't think that God has any duty to anyone. He doesn't have to solve any riddles for mankind. He made us with the brains to solve our own riddles.
You can't disprove the existence of God by disproving the existence of a Christian God or an Islamic God. Those are human approximations of a being humans are not equipped to fully understand. -
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o God is in the details.this means he is nature ?? ….
o nature doesn’t care … nature has no hell nor heaven.nature share nothing in common with the concept of god…
If there is a God, why this game of hide and seek , or hide and different people will act as representatives , each with his own version which hates and contradicts other versions .. Don’t you think logic dictates that representatives should beconsistent with each other ,
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The Bible is just one version of God. Believe in the God that works for you - the one who caused beauty, who made truth. Do not think that God has any duty to anyone. He does not have to solve any riddles for mankind. He made us with the brains to solve our own riddles.
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o Why should I carry the burden of beleiving in nothing.. we created him to sooth our fears , now he is a burden threatening our sanity and our sense of responsibility , he is used now as a weapon to kill others
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You cannot disprove the existence of God by disproving the existence of a Christian God or an Islamic God. Those are human approximations of a being humans are not equipped to fully understand.
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o The concept of God alltogether is just naive
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The concept of God as you understand it is naive. Stop making God in your image. And stop looking for God. You can make all the rules for how a God should behave, but that doesn't cause God to obey you.
Humans did not create God. That is naive. That is making God into something smaller than you. That will never work. Stop trying to understand God and God will come to you.
Wrap your head around this: God made all things, good and bad. God made all things that will be and that have been. God made these things already because God does not exist in only the four dimensions percieved by man. God has no such limitations.
God does not occupy space. God is space. God is all things. There is no "not-God" - all things are God and all parts of things are God - add them together and that is God. God is the infinitely small multiplied by the infinitely large. God is life, death, the earth, not earth, they sky and water. God is no thing, no person or place - not a noun or verb or adjective - but God is all of those.
None of this makes any sense and it isn't supposed to. Mystics will tell you: look for God where He is not. -
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use as many big words as you like , still , your words are trying create an image .... maybe there is nothing to descibe to begin with .. there is nothing but us and nature .. as lonely and frightening as it might be ... just dont fight it , and dont hide from it by hiding behind a God ,no matter how big you made him ...
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I'm not hiding at all. The God I believe in created me to be enough. I am what I am and I don't rely on a God to make me anything more or less than that. I rely on myself.
The ancient Hebrews would not speak the name of God because that reduced God to human terms. There is no description of God that can actually describe God. That is why he is defined by conundrums. By thinking about those things that we cannot fathom. Like: how many angels can dance on the point of a needle? Or, if a tree falls in the forest and no-one is there to hear it, will it make a sound?
Look for God where He is not.
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you dont agree with established religions , that is good ... you just need the final step , discredit the ideas that relgions revolve around (this is a creation , there is a creater)..
if he what u say he is , then i dont need him ,
if he what u say he is , then he doesn need to create anything..
if he what u say he is , then the whole concept of divine wisdom is useless and illogical..
i hope i am not offending you ... sorry -
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Again - you are looking for something that you are not even equipped to find. So, why bother?
I actually never said he created anything. Creation requires time - a construct of human perception.
You only need to take the final step. Stop believing in "not God".
Who gives a shit about divine wisdom? That is a human construct. Find your own wisdom. Make your own personal decision regarding right and wrong - then live by it without excuses and without recourse of confession to some pitiful human approximation of a God.
But here is what you shouldn't do: don't try to prove god doesn't exist because no-one can explain God to you. That isn't just illogical, it is foolish. -
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Honestly the simplest method is one you pointed out earlier, find the god that appeals to you.
I did two years in a college studying theology and english lit, philosophy of religion and general pyschology, i was there only for the english but had to do the theology too, so i decided to go along for the ride (that and psychology and philosophy weren't all that bad).
The college however, being an old priestly training grounds had a particular bias in regards to their approach to the "god question" and what was supposed to be a 4 year degree, turned into me walking out after two years sick to the back teeth of the crap.
Moral of the story, don't go looking for someone else's god, don't go trying to find it/him/her, let that come to you, your own personal jesus, reach out and touch faith brother! -
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ok , i won't look for someone else's god , But i want them to drop the whole idea alltogether .. humanity is better off with out the notion of God .. the God that loves me and hate others .. the god that favor me and discard others ... cant you see , the curruption of the idea ... we want a God to favor us and distroy other ... which he eventually does !!!
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don't try to prove god doesn't exist
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I agree , u r right , i cant prove the non existant of anything ...
i hope you will agree with me that the notion of god that most religions have is damaging to the evolution of minkind , it distracts mankind from looking logically into the world and thus choosing the right way to go .. -
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I thoroughly disagree. For the vast majority of believers, the organised religions offer a moral construct that they wouldn't otherwise take the time to develop. The vast majority of believers (in every faith) are good people - they just don't get the press that the loudmouthed fundamentalists do.
Trust me, you wouldn't want to live in a world where your fellow man didn't get the righteous nudge of organised religion. -
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have some faith in your human nature ...We just need to shoulder our own responsibility .. we cant grow up with God around ..
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How many people will die, lives will be ruined, while we wait for people to learn to take personal responsibility?
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Those who would "grow up" will do it with or without God. And for those who won't, godlessness is only a refuge and an excuse.
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Jesus did not agree with the established religions of his time.
Matthew 23:23-28.
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I have a simple explanation. God is imaginary therefore he cannot talk to you.
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