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  • Mista Medina
    Aug 13 7:49 PM
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    i dont know if i just had an epiphany just now but ive realized that i honestly shouldnt be so conscious about what people think of my work or how i should do it or whether or not they think its mine. However grammar seems more important then i thought so i will take more effort in grammar for this site. though grammar is not required here at the forums. really why complain about that when you could just not feel conscious?

    n
    why complain

    *** Note **** the previous message in this post has been deleted or edited to this.

    id like to thank the previous posters for helping me realize i shouldnt be so conscious about being undermined or how people feel about subjects or whatever
    i just want to express myself on this site an nothing else, so why make it something else?

    now im not saying i ignore all negative comments im saying that i realise that all posts like this are people just trying to help me become better at what i am however im just taking into my, my perspective on the situations you bring up.



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    FROM NOW ON THE USE OF GRAMMAR IS PROHIBITED (omg no period at the end of this sentence!)
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  • Mista Medina
    August 14

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    werent there 2 replies here?

    they're gone OMG!!!

    o

    • arafura
      August 14

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      They are undermining you DJ... by taking the replies away.

      Is it not possible to think deeply about a stuffed toy? What toys do you play with?

      • Mista Medina
        August 14

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        a bycicle.
        i dont really have many toys family kinda poor they never bought us much.
        • A bike could be a good metaphor.

          As for toys, it's all how you use them in your writing. Themes can be customized for each writer. Writing about a teddy bear or other stuffed animal doesn't need to only be a sweet tribute.

      • Mista Medina
        August 15

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        an your trying to prevoke more *edit by staff - profanity not allowed on the poetry forum* to happen!

        • arafura
          August 15

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          DJ I am not trying to provoke more *edit - profanity*. However an should have been and. And provoke is not spelled with an "e".

          To be perfectly honest with you, you do have potential as a poet. But your writing is what might be expected from a reasonably talented 12 year old.

          Don't try to grow old too quick DJ. There's plenty of time to develop.

          • polly filla
            August 15

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            as nuances come with time
            • I can hardly wait to see what I can write when I grow up. Maybe when I am 60.

              • polly filla
                August 15

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                I've worked it out; by the time I understand (the meaning of life) I'll be too old&infirm to express it

              • polly filla
                August 15

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                hey; this thread's going all scatological

          • Mista Medina
            August 15

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            thanks an i never though i was growing to old or pretending to be an age im not or thinking that im the most talented person on ap

            really im just being honest an stating the opinion that most kids are reasonably talented in some way yet aren't recognized as it.
            im stating this for all ages

            • arafura
              August 15

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              Hang in there DJ. If you write well people WILL respect that.

              Think about proof reading your comments and your work carefully. There are a lot of spelling errors in your comment.

              But the main thing is keep writing and keep reading the work of more established poets.

              Good luck.

  • Matt Holck
    August 14

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    I figure most 5th grade prompts would be gender neutral
    or at least have nothing to do with sex

    • Mista Medina
      August 14

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      "what did you do over the god damn summer"
      or "if you could travel anywhere where would it be
      or "write about an accident you had"
      or some *edit* like that

  • Skeletons
    August 14

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    Gay is not a synonym for *edit - sorry no profanity on this forum*

    • Matt Holck
      August 14

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      or stupid or intelligent

    • polly filla
      August 15

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      that's below the belt

      • Skeletons
        August 15

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        Not really.

        The original meaning of gay is completely different to the one that's often used today.

        It just annoys me when people use it negatively like that.

        • polly filla
          August 15

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          oh, you don't say; what a gay day!

          let's gambol! *skip*
  • You can compose quite deep, thought provoking poetry about stuffed animals...in fact, my muse continues to be my stuffed giraffe Harrison...

    but perhaps because I'm a 'white, white' kid, that would be expected?
    ~Hippie

    • Mista Medina
      August 14

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      ehh stereo typical neighborhood neighborhood an spelling error
      ill just delete that part.
  • I can't help it I'm white, if that helps. And I don't tan easily either, despite my pale complexion.

  • -BlackKnight-
    August 15

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    Quick, somebody call the WWWWAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHbulance!

    • polly filla
      August 15

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      The Ambiance?

      Woo-Woo! [ALIAS Nee-Naw, Nee-Naw, Nee-Naw...*fade*]

  • Skeletons
    August 15

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    Why don't you actually do something about it then, instead of just whining?
    Like maybe holding your own contest for people your age, since you seem to think that adults are so incompetent at it.

    • Mista Medina
      August 15

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      like i have enough points an yes i will when i do get enough points

      really did you think about that?

  • onthesly
    August 15

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    It's all very dramatic. Man, when I was twelve I stilled played G.I. Joes. What the hell happened to youth? Seriously?

    • Mista Medina
      August 15

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      lol its true to youth is gone from the youth

    • polly filla
      August 15

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      totally, man (see, I'm down wit da lingo)

      what happened?

      Too Much Too Young

      that's what!

  • Terry-too
    August 15

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    DJM,

    Hyper-intelligent kids are not as perfect as they assume. Now that I have your attention--
    .

    I understand your distress, because you feel devalued. If you want to avoid it, ask your mom or dad to be a member who posts your poems. It does not guarantee wonderful comments, but age would not be an issue.

    I do know why you protest though.
    DJ, I am not about to treat you with disrespect.

    My mother had a comment: "The woods echo what you shout."
    This is your echo.

    However, I am glad that the mods modified what I imagine was a barrage that would have weakened your message. While you make valid points about people who "talk down" to kids, the hostility shows. Sadly, it is a turn-off.

    It is never too late to start using a proud language correctly so your detractors will have even more reason to think it could not have been written by a kid! The laugh will be yours, and you will not always be twelve.

    Excellent spelling throughout! Score one for you!

    Sentences begin with capitals in US usage as well as in Standard English. Sentences end with periods, or ? or !
    I saw at least three done correctly.

    "on another site alot of people did not believe i wrote a certain poem because i was only 12."

    You needed capitals: On, (begins sentence.) "alot" a lot has two words and the personal pronoun i needs a capital I when it is yourself.

    "they're gone OMG!!!" Great to see the apostrophe used right in "they are."
    Therefore, since you already know all these things, you do not need this.

    Hang in. You will be old soon enough.


    • polly filla
      August 15

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      I think the onus is on the word "hyper"...never mind "intelligent"!

    • Mista Medina
      August 15

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      thanks for a constructive reply an i understand what you mean an by the way

      i dont think im intelligent much at all my perants have no idea i write at all an if they did they'd probably think im a pussy which my perants said they would
      and nor did i consider myself better then anyone

      and your right about the grammar i dont use it an people undermine that

      well i just always hated grammar an never really used it unless it was for school or some stuff.

      well thanks for a constructive opinion thats well thought out


      • thelordreigns
        August 15

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        DJ - it is great that you are passionate about writing. After all, writing is life regardless of age.

        You need to use grammar (standard English) if you expect to be taken seriously as a writer and as a voice supporting writing.

        Keep writing and asking questions. I truly hope you come to believe that your writing is not being undermined but supported here at AP.




      • Matt Holck
        August 15

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        grammar exists to make statements clear

  • Starlight-Owl
    August 15

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    You simply write. If people don't believe you wrote it, that's their problem. Many people didn't believe I wrote some of the things I had written until they watched me writing. Just stick it out. Eventually people will believe you. No worries.

    • polly filla
      August 15

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      they watch you writing?

      spooky...or else, those people you're on about are terribly bored

      • Starlight-Owl
        August 15

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        It was in class. My teacher watched me. She didn't believe I wrote in the style I do. So, next writing assignment she stood over my shoulder and watched me.

  • Fug-azi
    August 15

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    In my opinion, write what and how you want, there are a lot of contests here that are not just for adults, write for them, as your style becomes more recognised by others they will start to appreciate that what you write is your own work .. but .. expect a lot of negative comments to start with, sprinkled with some excellent advice, build a base of people who you know will give you the critique you need, hard but honest.

    I for one will never judge the author by their age only by what and how they write.

    take care

    • Mista Medina
      August 15

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      thanks an yes i try to enter every competition for any age as much as possible

      and i am not trying to state the opinion of myself i am stating an opinion for all younger poets who write deeply an true
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