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must a poem be anthropomorphisized?


  • Matt Holck
    Aug 10 4:54 AM
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    must my heart be in it?

    shouldn't I write what I know?

  • Lute
    August 10
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    Ern Malley

    Durer: Innsbruck, 1495:

    I had often cowled in the slumbrous heavy air,
    Closed my inanimate lids to find it real,
    As I knew it would be, the colourful spires
    And painted roofs, the high snows glimpsed at the back,
    All reversed in the quiet reflecting waters -
    Not knowing then that Durer perceived it too.
    Now I find that once more I have shrunk
    To an interloper, robber of dead men's dream,
    I had read in books that art is not easy
    But no one warned that the mind repeats
    In its ignorance the vision of others. I am still
    The black swan of trespass on alien waters.


    Ernest Lalor "Ern" Malley (April 14, 1918 - July 23, 1943) was a fictitious poet and the central figure in Australia's most celebrated literary hoax. He has become one of the best-known names in the history of Australian poetry.


    • ea
      August 10
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      How was he "ficticious"?

      Getting back to Matt, yes, it must be heartfelt - not that all poems are equally heartfelt. Sometimes, depending on the genre, they are lightly felt, others -heavily.

      • Just Mercedes
        August 10
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        Google Angry Penguins and read his story - wonderful! A literary hoax, which once revealed, saw the victims insist that his poetry was valid.

        • ea
          August 10
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          OK, I came up with Jacket magazine there which I have a phobia about. *insert spider emoticon* but I got through enough to get the gist - it's like that dada stuff only marketed more dishonestly because I think when the artists are being up front about that cut and paste stuff, they can come up with "real", for a lame lack of adjectives, stuff. I do not like being fooled by false marketing either - so would I defend their work as being legitimate or valid - probably not - but why would those rogues care?

        • Cynewulf
          August 11
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          I'll be a monkey's uncle

      • Matt Holck
        August 10
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        I just get upset when another suggests that a poem is not valid unless the author writes about themselves

        • ea
          August 10
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          well, each according to his constructs.

          • Matt Holck
            August 11
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            it's a relation skill problem

            I'm trying to lead a writers` forum
            and I am contradicting other posters willing to give a critique.
            In some sense,
            I don't feel a poet should be told to write from their heart.
            Hearing such would have a poet believe what was written is poor because the work lacks emotion.

            Reminds me when I took a poetry class and wrote about smoking
            only to have the class declare the writer wasn't a smoker.

            • ea
              August 11
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              yes, that is a very limiting way to approach writing, reading. Demanding that it be within someone' experience, though if the smoking poem is not "believable," or evocative of anything for those readers, then the non-smoker was not able to effectively write about the topic for that particular group.

              • Matt Holck
                August 11
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                yes ...
                quite a let down

                • ea
                  August 11
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                  well, you can't help who you're working with unless you're fortunate enough to be in a scientific think tank where you can play the twenty question game that will yield "cloud".

  • Cynewulf
    August 11
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    Anthrocentric?
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