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I can resist everything except temptation- Oscar Wilde
We must believe in free will.
We have no choice- Isaac Bashevis Singer
A little pain never hurt anyone- Anonymous
Life is a dangerous thing; It can kill you- Anonymous
I am a deeply superficial person- Andy Warhol
I am easily satisfied with the best- Winston Churchill
Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean I'm not being chased- Winston Churchill
Why don't you pair them 'em up in threes?- Yogi Berra
I used to be indecisive, but now I'm not sure- Tommy Cooper
The best cure for insomnia is to get alot of sleep- W.C Fields
The world is full of apathy, but i don't care- unknown
Always remember you are unique, just like everyone else!- Alison Boutler
people who live in glass houses should probably get insurance- my Mother
If the shoe fits, buy it- my aunt
Have a nice day- me!
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He does the work of three men. Larry, curly and moe. (dunno who said it.)
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heeheehee i like that one (somehow it perfectly describes my father)
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I hate the 'a little pain never hurt anyone quote' its just stupid! Pain hurts, that is like its definition! It totally doesn't make sense. Even if you read it as meaning it doesn't have a long term effect on people that can be wrong because continued small levels of pain linked with stimuli or just background pain can have a massive effect on your life! It can cause phobias and limit life enjoyment, it can cause people to avoid activities they enjoy even. What an incorrect quote.
(No offence to you, I disliked this quote long before you brought it up, I have for years now, its an on going rant) -
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Problem with you is that you refuse to accept that pain can, in fact, be a good thing. Without pain, people would not become stronger through life. Character is lost and the species devolves.
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I don't believe that you should be in pain when you get your teeth taken out. Fair enough getting heartbroken is as good thing in a long run. But stupid injections?! There must be another way!
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Well if there was no pain there would be no need to have defense against it, it ain't devolution if there is no need for it, like that organ that used to combine smell and taste, we don't need it, it would just be really awkward now, imagine tasting dog poo on your morning walk.
And of course pain only builds a certain type of character, not having pain would create a different kind of character. Of course being over 15 you probably consider different to be wrong and thus reject it. (My maths teacher conducted an informal study into how people accept difference by regularly rearranging the chairs in the room, those over 15 immediately rejected the different lay out regularly and were extremely hesitant to come into the room thus leading to my conclusion that those over 15 reject difference).
However you may have noticed that I didn't not say I thought pain was always bad (light S&M is fun!), I said pain always hurts, which it does. It is a stupid quote. -
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Without knowing pain, you will never know pleasure.
Actually, I think that actually might be a quote from somewhere, but I have no idea where or if it even exists. -
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I reckon you can know pleasure without pain. There would be feeling normal, just walking round, wind blowing in your face or something, and then there would pleasure, eating a soft crust fresh lemon tart. Those are different levels of feelings, I don't believe you need to feel something negative to feel the positive, rather feeling the negative makes you appriciate the positive a lot more.
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But how would you know it was pleasure? If you felt pleasure your entire life, you really wouldn't know what it was, just part of your normal day, like breathing. If you were to expiriance pain, you would fulling understand what pleasure is, and no longer take it for granted.
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Ah, I just expanded my last answer without realising you had replied to it. Bum!
Oh well.
To parapharse, pleasure is a level above feeling normal. You would not appriciate it as much as if you had felt pain but there is feeling okay and there is feeling amazing and you still greatly appriciate feeling amazing if the rest of the time you only feel okay. Trust me, I have never had any great physical pain that I can clearly remember and yet when something plessurable happens to my body (spa pool, sun bathing, fancy nice feeling clothes) I still appriciate it a hell of a lot. -
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But if you always felt pleasure, you would feel like it's normal, so you would have no way to rise above it.
And pain isn't just physical. Thank FSM that nothing of great physical pain has happened to you, but it is impossible to go in life without feeling emotional pain. -
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But just because you can't feel pain doesn't mean you would always feel pleasure. That is not a logical conclusion to reach.
And I know that pain is not always physical, but I feel that the same conclusion applies to emotional absence of pain, however I do not have a personal example of that cause emotionally I been hurt and can still remember it. -
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OH! Sorry...I missread your post as a pleasure-always thing. My bad...
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No problem.
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I don't consider different to be wrong. Not that it matters; if I wanted, I could turn that conclusion of yours around for you since you clearly dislike the notion that pain can be beneficial.
In this case, the term "hurt", as used in the quote, is meant to be taken figuratively, not literally. What the quote is really saying is, "A little pain was never bad for anyone". -
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Clearly I do not dislike the notion pain can be beneficial because 1) the S&M comment, wasn't actually kidding there! Fun can be beneficial. 2) my mother is a doctor (pain for a longer life is a very beneficial thing).
If the quote is saying "A little pain was never bad for anyone" it would still be wrong for the points I made in my first post. You give someone a little back pain and it can totally ruin their lives, which is bad for them. Never is a very strong statement and can seldom be applied in such general terms. Perhaps what the quote should be is "A little pain doesn't always a negative effect on everyone".
When it comes to interpreting the term "hurt" in this quote if the quote creator wished it to be taken figuratively they should have used a term that did not have such a distinct meaning.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/hurt
Quiet clearing the majority of the definitions of hurt pertain to a negative effect on a person, generally physical but emotional included.
It is a stupid, poorly worded, contridictory quote.
Please note point 6 in the definition of pain
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/pain
Clearly pain hurts people, that is part of its definition. To state otherwise is to be incorrect and illistrate a poor grasp of the concepts with which you deal.
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Great, so we've established that pain can be beneficial. I'm satisfied.
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Why the hell did you argue with me in the first place, my first post is clearly an argument about the incorrectness of the stupidly worded statement which is even more obvious when you know I am a crazy law student with a thing about definitions. You are such a time waster!
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Well, I had typed out a much longer response about how dictionaries don't always take into account contextual meanings, as well as the fact that, had the quote been worded as you suggested, it would've been a big clunky thing and nobody would remember it.
But I decided not to use all that and just post what I did because I knew it would annoy you. lol -
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The context is crap. The whole quote is crap.
There is nothing of value within this poorly worded piece of poo.
The only thing this quote is useful for is for separating the idiots who quote it at people in seriousness from those who have a basic understanding of definition so you know who to target your contract law suits at.
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Alright, you're right about the S&M; a friend of mine is into it.
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I might also point out that evolutionary speaking pain was created so you could avoid what was causing it. ie to avoid being hurt because generally being hurt is the result of something that reduces your reproductive success, ie an infected cut, being beaten up, being left by your partner (hard to have offspring if there is no one there to have them with you).
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A little pain for a long term gain....
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Still hurts while it is happening.
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"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." Albert Einstein
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"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones." -- Albert Einstein
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I know that quote and the one above from the Call of Duty series. Video games are a surprisingly great tool for learning, depending on the game of course.
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"I believe gay marriage should be between a man and woman."
~ARNULD...
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Wow... Just wow... No comment.
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How do people this stupid get elected? I mean reading the dictionary is super fun (not kidding, comparative dictionary reading is fun).
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If we knew we could stop it. Maybe it's because most of America agrees with them? Which is even worse...
Wait... You read the dictionary? Mmkay then. Not my favorite activity, but to each their own. -
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To be strictly accurate I read two dictionaries at once, so as to compare definitions . . . remember I do do law, not exactly a thrill a minute subject, actually I had to a paper where a third of the content was how to read a dictionary. Fits me well.
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I agree- I've found the dictionary to be a great source of amusement.
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1) the accent is sexy! Americans adore sexy accents!
2) Arnuld is the terminator and will beat the krap out of invaders...at least, in the movie he did...
not to mention, his wife is heir to a ketchup fortune, so while campaigning he probably promised loads of free ketchup and everyone was like "right on!"
Ah, american politics.
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Isn't John Kerry's wife heiress to the Heinz Ketchup fortune?
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I saw it on Tv...I just turned off the tube, I was so flabbergasted...and California is now taking great leaps in gay rights...maybe the terminator was tongue tied...
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Eh, he doesn't agree with gay marriage, but he won't bother opposing the law they just passed allowing it. Since he promised he would be "the people's governor", he probably figured it's just best to let the people have what they want in this case.
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Or he's too busy kicking robot alien's asses to pay attention!!!
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Not that it matters; he still won't do anything about it.
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~Hippie
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Is that from the court ruling or has it also been cemented in statute law? (Nerd asking)
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"Same-sex marriage is valid and recognized in California. California is the second U.S. state, after Massachusetts, to make marriage licenses available to same-sex couples.
On May 15, 2008 the Supreme Court of California overturned the state's ban on same-sex marriage in In re Marriage Cases.[1] The four-to-three decision took effect on June 16, 2008.[2]"
Wikipedia, because I'm too lazy to look further.
So, pretty much...I know it was delayed after the court ruling because of pressure from conservative groups and the like...but I saw pictures of people getting married in the newspaper.
~Hippie
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George Takei will get married in September now!
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I love the one just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean I'm not being chased. I have to use this some time
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"Ladies and Gentlemen, take my advice: Pull down your pants, and slide on the ice!"
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"I'm not a vegetarian because I love animals. I'm a vegetarian because I hate plants."
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My Favorites; Mostly Sebastian Horsley quotes.
"I've gone into the profession of being. I'm a peacock without a cause. I'm a rebel without applause"
"The problem with intimacy is, well it's not really intimacy, it it? It's surveillance."
"Life is completely pointless so why not be extraordinary"
"Listening to the radio is like having a conversation with someone wearing dark glasses."
"I look at myself in the mirror, 'cos let's face it, I'm my type."
"The problem is, I only write to get my knob sucked and the kind of women I'm attracted to are illiterate."
"An actor is a man who tries to be everything but himself. A ghost looking for a body to inhabit."
"Television is an idiot lantern. Don’t you wish there was a knob on the TV to turn up the intelligence? There’s one called “Brightness” but it doesn’t work."
"The advantage of poor vision is that you can date anybody."
" Hell is the red-light district of Heaven."
" When you're fallen you fear no fall."
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"Happiness can be found in the darkest of times is one only remembers to turn on the light." Albus Dumbledore (Fictional Character)
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Dog is god spelled backwards or is Dog really God spell backwards?
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