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to me a good poem is one with emotion and from ones heart and soul. it makes it a good read and paints a clear picture for ther reader. other wise the poem is meaningless to me and i cannot read it. what about u? be honest no one is here to judge ur opinions.
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A poem without typos and chat-text. I skip those because they are not intended for me.
I welcome respectful dispute and discussion. We grow from the thought it inspires.
What you said about emotion is a good point, but not the only criterion. There are excellent poems with stories and observations on Life and its folly, politics... Humour is always welcome. -
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Hey! You didn't mention Ur of the Chaldeans this time. Our last little exchange about that fine city was cruelly expunged. Do you think there is a Pun Police?
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brings a tier to my eye
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brings a tier to my eye
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Nah. It was an inverted one.
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They STOLE it?
Whatever is this world coming to?
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They are most welcome to it.
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What makes a poem good for me? The emotions in the poem and the story behind it. The meaning. A poem isn't anything without a meaning.
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well, isn't it the bronze trophy?
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A good poem is an old master painted in words...
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I prefer a young mistress painted in naught but her nightie...
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Ok... Send me round the nightie and I'll look out me easel...!
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I judge opinions!
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In my opinion, there are many parts to make an overall poem “good.” Those components are:
Vocabulary, imagery, creativity, personal voice of the writer, emotions, message, correct spelling and grammar, and proper use of form. -
'what in your own words makes a poem good?'
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I'll buy that. If it reaches the reader--me--it's GREAT!
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this week, I be mostly reading Barthes
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a good poem does not only paint a clear picture, a good poem is worded as such that it conjures visions in the readers own mind as to what the poem is all about, with a good poem each reader will take something a little different from it
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a good poem is one that either makes me laugh or cry, preferably both.
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when I don't fill empty at the end of a line
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A good poem is one that portrays to the reader exactly what the writer intended; be it through any of the senses-if it paints a picture and touches the heart and soul then it's done its job.
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a good poem either makes me pissed off at something, or so sad I have to curl into a fetal position and listen to Mad World 55 times in a row...
in other words, makes me realize an emotion for something that I otherwise wouldn't have discovered...
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In other words, an extreme reaction?
Rots of ruck. Few of those around.
First, there is only a finite number of ways that a set of words can be combined to express anything. Second, chances are, in the centuries since we have a record of written poetry, they have already been used! -
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that combination is greater than than the whole humans have writ
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"--and will ever write "
Certainly, will ever know....
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yeah...that reminds me of a song
"chain reaction!
(chain reaction)
feel the passion
(feel the passion)
please surrender
(please surender)
lose control)"
ha I love that song
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ooh, I like a bit of song mid-conversation
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I got this one KIDS
It's consistancy, When a poem is thick . Artery cloggers are my favorite just as long as it goes down smooth-- Yumm... -
If I like it.
Regardless of style, 'emotion' (not always needed- satire etc'), who wrote it. If I like it, I like it. -
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yeah, it really isn't dependent upon perfect form or getting it all in in exactly "50 words" which is something I see here at AP as restricting good poetry. If there's one problem with the quickies and the PIFs it's this "exact amount of words" needed mentality that seems to have caught fire.
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I agree! Word count should never be a factor is all I am saying. I certainly don't want to be told to shave two words off a poem just to fit the comp. It would make sense to me to be told a syllable count. I can think like that.
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it's a structural guideline
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It doesn't compute for me to write within a guideline that is looking for word count. It does make sense to do it with syllables. I can not let a poem flow if I am counting words though. I don't understand the impulse.
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pound it out and knead it to rhythm
after the 50 count
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I don't need advice on how to write; I need contests that are more open to how individuals write if that makes sense. I don't even care if they hate it but I want my muse to be free enough to want to tackle what inspires me. So many contests inspire initially with a prompt or a picture but then the attitude of the host is a total kill-joy. Don't enter unless you're great or in my club, Bitch. I'm so sick of that shit.
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my eyes roll back after reading so many either way
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I agree.
Those word-limits are good for building up vocabulary; an accomplished poem could be a haiku or an entire ballad, provided the words appeal and are effective. Many poets try to write big, flowing pieces before they have become discerning enough with vocabulary, and you end up with that 'blood red vampyre heart' stuff that is trying to be sexy and dramatic but is actually amusing.
It is almost like music (especially singing)- like notes, you have to be able to hit the right tone and vocabulary; it takes a practice, time and stamina to be able to tackle a more complex piece. -
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maybe the heart does not pump blood
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Exact NUMBER of words
Amount of sugar, measured by the cup.
Amount of energy, just to get you up-
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Exact number of words whilst making the poet think also restricts what they may really say and feel. Whilst I agree there is a place for short poems I don't think we should limit a persons creativity, hell knows we work hard enough anyway!
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Yes, but poetry is a skill; you harness it to communicate your creativity. Word limits and genres enable poets to hone their communicative skills; this avoids just 'splurging' emotion onto a page. Just as painting, dance and music require rules and practice to perfect BEFORE the artist is ready to go free form, experimental or abstract, so a poet needs to understand how words and rhythm work (they do; it isn't random) before they can work really well with free verse.
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The body requires more than just food to sustain its hunger! I mean like love, warmth, imagination, friendship, creativity, touch...as poets we need to feed from one another for inspiration, advice, constructive criticism, fellowship, encouragement....
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air and water
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