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I've had one poem (not posted on my page) published in a book last year and another one of my poems ("In Tears") is going to be published by another company. !
Has anyone here been published before?
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Only in my website.
Oh! I forgot two sonnets in 1956 or so in a literary magazine. The magazine folded a few months later, and I kind of felt responsible... -
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shrug
projects fold due to loss of funding/interest
if a project takes the author writes until it folds
and usually is not starting any new projects
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Once in print, twice in online magazines, and lulu.com.
poetry.com offered to print my poem/s for me, but I decided not to buy into their scam.
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How is poetry.com a scam?
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It's not a scam unless you feel you are being ripped off by buying something from them. They sent me a worthless medallion for the one and only poem I ever posted there but I didn't pay a thing for it! And the poem was quite decent.
I actually read a very interesting "expose" of the place in Harper's magazine and a decent writer didn't spend a thing other than stamps to keep sending in the replies and made it all the way to their Gala dinner awards ceremony where they dole out the big prizes they do afford to give through people purchasing the books they are in, which is all anyone in the poetry world is really doing anyway. -
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I was invited to one of their Gala's in Orlando, Florida. The funny thing is: I live in Orlando, Florida. They still wanted me to pay the $600+ dollars to go to the Gala at Disney World .. WHERE I WORKED .. because, and I quote: "It would be unfair to all others attending".
It's a scam. It's a "legal" scam. They break no laws in Texas (I believe that's where they are) and therefore get away with what they do.
They give false-hope to people. That's the worst scam of all.
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Maybe not exactly a scam scam, but more of an extreme vanity publishing.
http://www.eliteskills.com/writing_scams/poetry.com.scam.php has an excellent article on them. -
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I fear this is not as "excellent" as the article in Harper's. For one thing, it uses "it's" for its (possessive) Always a red flag.
Then the statement about how it does not publish what you do not pay for is false, according to that article I read. I know I never paid them a cent.
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Did they pubish you in their book?
If so, then you're one of the rare ones.
I got their 'you'll be published'....same volume my friend was going to published in. She paid, and her poem was in the book. I didn't buy into it, and my poem was nowhere in ther book.
poetry.com is flagged on most scam sites, and with the Better Business Bureau. To me, that's a sign to stay away. -
http://allpoetry.com/column/356904
(not promoting, since it's been syndicated, etc, and you can't applaud/get points/etc and all that from columns, so.... ) But, it shows comments from a lot of poets on this site who have had the same thing happen to them. -
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I could do professional reading
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"it's" for its (possessive) Always a red flag
I fell it's an easy mistake -
its-it's
Bravo!
I'd suggest close to half who write here do not realize that pronoun forms of the possessive NEVER use apostrophes. "The pup licked its paw."
What a shock to discover that it's means "it is" and sometimes "it has!" It's been ages since I thought of this second use of the contraction.
I hate to tell you that a lot of well-educated writers make this error. It's not entirely their fault: it depends on whether their teachers knew... Education has dumbed down a lot in the past fifty years. (I had my first classroom in 1950 and I plead not guilty.)
Terry -
None of the poems that I have over there (thank you) is published in any of their books. I know because me and a friend wanted to see if it were true. So, we both sent in poems, they both were accepted for publishing in their "upcoming book" and he paid, and I didn't.
His poem was in the book - mine wasn't.
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It works like this...
You can send a poem like 'the cat sat of the mat' - they'll send gushing letters saying they are ready to publish this work of genius and enter you into contests. The prizes to these contests do not relate to the poem (although poetry.com would have poets believe this), but how many copies of the book each poet buys/sells.
Most vanity presses are open to what they are (Lulu, for example); they admit 'you pay us to print what you want; if you wanted 100 pages of 'the cat sat on the mat' no worries'. That is why they are called 'vanity' presses. Poetry.com pretends to be a critical, selective, contest running press, hooking inexperienced poets in by suggesting that they have been 'selected' in some way ... then they squeeze as much cash as they can out of the poet. That is why many people view them as a dishonest scam.
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I feel I should stop posting new works
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I just got rejected that counts for something right?
It was a very nice letter and very prompt response from a really cool editor.
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That's nothing. I got rejected by Angelina Jolie, no less. It was a very politely-worded injunction from a very sweet lawyer.
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Hey! how Lute get rejected by Angelina?
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which cool editor was it? the Fonz?
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Like a fly on shit eh? Was Rattle, his name was Tim Green
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I get rejected sometimes - I never get a letter. You showed them leg, didn't you?
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I got rejected again on Saturday
it was a personal rejection (email) letter which is supposedly a step up from the form rejection letter..
I am attempting to be the first in my poem workshop group to collect 100.
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I don't count the ones before late 2002 because I was an awful writer then. Actually perhaps even 2003.
If I counted the ones from mid 2003 to now, I think I'd be close to 50. Of course I don't submit often. But, it's not like I'll run out of poems to submit.
Of course, that's what rewriting them is for, eh?
I usually submit over seas anyway. They aren't as demanding as those in the U.S. (you know, every little thing has to be perfectly the way THEY want it)
The country I'm most published in, if you do not count the internet would be India.
Weird but true.
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Oh that's quite cool, India.. I just started really (and the first poem I ever submitted won an Honorable Mention in a Gwendolyn Brooks Poetry Contest in your state which made me quite excited) but it has been all downhill from there ...
I've only submitted to 5 places so far this year. Stats are, 1 acceptance, 2 rejections and pending responses from 3 still out (which will most definitely be rejections as I aimed waaaaaay to high but why not get rejected by Angelina Jolie??).
You are right about the American market though it is persnickity.
Hi Nam.
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I have 2 poems published with my real name. One magazine here (not speaking of self-published even through others self-publishing) and one anthology in India.
Too many people out there who publish under "David Arnold", at least that I found. So, in 2004 I created a pseudonym. And if I publish enough poems under that name over the years (doubtful) then I'll make a book through lulu.com with only those poems.
Though I was thinking of not ever doing that. Just let them disappear into the great unknown of poetry.
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I'm with you --- let them disappear into the great unknown of poetry
I find the self promotion of self published books and self published cd's on this site a bit much.
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They are so "persnickity" that they want the poem already edited for publication. What's the point of being an editor of a publishing house if you can't or are too lazy to "edit"?
I mean, isn't that one of their jobs?
Some people can write great, and some of those people do not know how to use punctuation 100%. I'm not saying I'm one of those people, or even implying it, but, not everyone knows grammar 100% of the time. People misspell, use punctuation incorrectly from time-to-time. But, I've found that most editors are lazy sobs. The work could be what they are looking for, it could be the best poem they ever read yet they won't publish it because it happens to have a few misspellings and punctuation errors and therefore since it would take time out of their pocket they send it back.
Publishers in the U.S. can't say they don't do that. I've had publishers tell me personally in letters that they wish it to be grammatically correct, spelling all correct, punctuation all correct etc., or they'll just trash it.
What's the point of being an editor, again?
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Had a whole heap of stuff published by Forward Press and various other titles they wholly or partly own... Of course they made copies available to me at a discount as a contributor - but inclusion was NOT dependent on any purchase and largely I only bought a copy for myself... They also run a number of contests annually with more than acceptable cash prizes.
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poetry.com did send me a letter, but I probably won't send it back. I had soemthing published in the Anthology of Poetry by Young Americans. It's not really an honor or anything, but it was still cool I guess.
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Congrats on your first publication and here's to many more... I know from experience just how very encouraging that is for a young writer. Simply stay away from any place that asks for money and when you receive a lure from a place after you have made it into a higher round where they do ask for money -- drop them.
I really had no idea it was such a big deal that I received a medallion from poetry.com for my poem "Junimond" without ever paying them anything but I guess they knew quality when they saw it.
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Those publications get thousands of submission, and to be selected *is* an honour. Congratulations on that!
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Thanks
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You can get your poetry published
If poetry.com sent you anything of worth and you did not pay a cent, then you must be the only person on earth who received something free from them. The truth is that if you enter a contest most often you must pay a reading fee. Someone has to read those thousands of poems and that entails time. I know about this first hand. Many online magazines (ezines) will publish your work free considering you are a good fit for their publication. In fact, many of them publish books and conduct writing competitions. You do not have to spend money to get published online and a small reading fee can get one of your poems or your entire collection published. Try http://www.rpwriters.com it is a new ezine and see if it is a good fit for you.
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Here are some links...
These are UK based, but most welcome entries from any nation.
I check these listings often, as I am a bit of a contest-junkie. Most cost about £5 to enter ($8-10). This pays for the prize fund, publishing, and fees to get professional poets or critics to judge finalists- these contests are largely run by volunteers who cannot afford to run them otherwise.
http://www.poetrylibrary.org.uk/competitions/
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Thank you!
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This is an excellent resource:
www.duotrope.com
If you haven't checked it out, I highly recommend it. It is free and there is an easy to use tracking feature that helps organize your submissions, plus you can sort by just about every kind of topic, journal, location etc.
Congrats on your publication!
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ooooh. Excellent link.
Bookmarked!
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Yeah.
Only single poems in magazines, however. The problem is my gappy output- as soon as I get almost enough for a booklet, I dry up or down't write for a while. ONE day I'll complete a book.
I've had plays performed before - but I HAVE to write them by the deadline because people would notice if there was just an empty stage. The trouble with poetry is that only I know if I've been slacking.
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Oh wow, these guys published me right away (redpulppublish above) Did anyone else try them? I'm their featured writer this week (Marcy Jarvis)
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I've been published in 2 books and 3 magazines officially. unofficially i have been in my school's newspaper and in a real newspaper under no name
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Me too... On toilet walls from here to Gretna (and in about ninety seven anthologies which is much the same thing)
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change your name
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hmm what does that have to do with it
hmm cant do that one either, when people learn my name then i seem to get banned so i wont be doing that on this site lol haha but its on my profile. by my name has ntohing to do with my poetry. aslo there was more to my name. it would not let it fit on the site. it is the last foolish child to a fallen king. i doubt you get it but thats the name i am know by
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Any help and/or comments,please!
Hi guys.
I'm from South Africa....
I write Afrikaans and English poems.
I wrote in for a contest and one of my poems were chosen for the finals (it's the one on my page).
Can anyone please advise me on how i can get my poems published.I realy think some of my poems are good and would love to be able to have my own "book" published...
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yo got a book ur better than me i dont think ill be any real help
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awwww
i want my works to be published
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