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Has anyone had a good experience with any publishers who pay royalties, as opposed to self-publishing type houses that charge the author, or pods where you pay more for shipping than for the book? You know, the ones with books in libraries and bookstores?
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Most of the good publisher require that you have an agent. They don't even take submissions without one.
It was suggested to me to get publish in a few magazines and then try the more notable publishers.
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Danna Hobart has a great addline with numerous links to publishers. You'll need to check them to see if their submission criteria has changed; also, some of them have gone out of business. Also, check Poets&Writers.com as well as poetry.org for additional sources of poetry publishing.

www.allpoetry.com/addline/1848932
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One of my children's poems was published by MacMillan McGraw Hill (they approached me) and I made $450 american. (one time payment) but I never got to see the finished product.
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That's wonderful! Congratulations! When my friend writes books and has them published, she's able to buy copies at cost from the publishers. She writes children's non-fiction, and has published with scholastic and numerous others.
I wonder if "your" book is still in print, and you could buy a copy from the publisher or a bookstore, or even online. I would want a copy for sure if I were you!
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It is. But it's very rare now ($100.50) and I don't want to pay that much for one page in a book.
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Hence why I don't see the point in being published. Anyways, by posting your poetry on the internet, that's considered being published, so most noteworthy publishers won't give you a second glance if you have stuff up. Like I do.
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You know what's missing, right? It's not really good publishers. It's the fanbase. Most publishers will publish books that are sure to sell. There should be some way for people to "petition" agents on behalf of poets who write sellable books.
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You hit the nail on the head. Nobody in the U.s reads poetry anymore but poets. We need for someone to drown out the academics, and their bad prose with line breaks and claim an audience, like Ginsberg, Kerouac, Ferlinghetti, etc, did back in the day. It will take a few brave publishers and agents to make that happen.
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I know one brave publisher. And I am a brave editor. And I tend to agree with you that poetry's greatest buying audience will be the poets themselves.
(I believe that) To launch a successful coup on the current system, a formidable group of us would have to get extremely good at edifying each other's work instead of our own. And we'd have to do this honestly, not just as a mechanical give-and-take procedure. We'd have to build a culture, not just a magazine. The magazine would simply be the face and the voice of our fresh, new poetic culture. Loyalty and perseverence and a healthy reading ethic would all be cornerstones for a poetic culture such as this.
I've expreienced this kind of culture, but it was less than a dozen people on a site built for thousands, and there were two modrators who could easily take 80% of the credit for having cultivated it. Despite all my efforts and residual popularity, I fear I was a very minor player. I'm always looking to get better at casting a vision that others will follow.

just rob
Nov 17 1:39 PM 2006
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