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Hey, I'm sure that I am not the first one to ask, but I am just wondering how I should go about getting a poem published. I don't want to publish an entire book or anything, and I know most of my stuff is not good enough to get published, but I am interested in at least trying to get a few poems published just for the fun of it. If anyone knows of any good websites to do this on or any good magazines, it'd be greatly appreciated.
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go to poetry.com. They actually choose poems to publish in books. Everything you put on there (you are not limited, unless entering contests, then it is only one) is copywrited. I have 8 poems published in several books because of them. Keep in mind, no matter where you go to get a poem or poetry published, it will cost money.
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Unfortunately, poetry.com only publishes the poems of those who pay for the book.
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No, you do not have to pay to be published. I would definitely avoid anyone who makes you buy a book to be published.
Get Poet's Market 2007, and look it over for suggestions. I have had 8 poems published since September, and did not pay for any of them to be published. You need to look over the available publishers, what type of poetry you write, and send in submissions. Keep on doing it until you get one published, you can do it. -
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I would never pay to be published, either...unless I was self-publishing. poetry.com is a scam site, and publishes anyone who pays to be in the book. Everyone who enters their monthly contest gets the same letter of (or very similar to): "I am delighted to inform you that your poem "[title]" has been awarded our prestigious Editor's Choice Award because it displays a unique perspective and original creativity -- judged to be the qualities most found in exceptional poetry." then continues with: "Every so often, as our Editors review the poems that have been presented our Editor's Choice Award, they personally select a few poems that they believe would have a wonderfully expressive quality if read by a professional reader. Your Editor has suggested that you become one of the 33 poets..."
Although, I haven't heard enything about the other areas of their site, and if the publishing is different. It just may be. -
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If you ever self-publish, there are many places that are very reputable. But if you are trying for just a few poems at first, don't use poetry.com at all. Try getting a book about reputable places to publish your poetry, or try for some of the different poetry contests there are, not on poetry.com.
If you want to be published, you have to be serious about it and look into lots of places. There are always several books out, go check on amazon.com for them, I just use the Poet's Market 2007 right now, but have used other books in the past. Or go online looking for e-zines that publish the styles you want to submit. It takes time and effort to do it, but is worth it in the end. -
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I've already self-published, and am happy with the end result (mainly did it the first time for a unique Christmas gift). I've been 'reputable' published, too...I made more money self-publishing
. But, for me, it's not about the money.
I have found it a lot harder to get poetry published than short fiction, though. Seems that more places would rather have a short piece of story fluff than a long poem.
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Oh, it is harder to get poetry published then any other genre of writing. That is just the sad facts, there is not a big demand for it.
There are lots of places to get published too, no, they don't pay alot. But I don't care, it messes up my taxes to get paid for it anyway. I found that out last year. I always try to refuse payment, or sometimes they offer to put it in a fund. I do that for my scholarly writings too. That is easier to designate for a school fund or scholarship or something worthwhile. But that field is so much easier to get published in, poetry is much harder. I guess it is the smaller amount or journals/magazines etc that carry poetry as an addition.
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You actually make money from publishing?
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I've had several places snail mail me back, or e-mail me back, and told me that they loved my submission but that they wished for me to change the format, and to perhaps rewrite it a bit.
If they loved it so much why are they asking me to change it to something it's not?
Self-publishing is better, I think. Sure, it's nice to get published by a well-known magazine, or book publisher but sometimes they wish you to conform to their particulars, and I just am not able to do that.
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I agree..regarding poetry.com..they will certainly publish any and all and will nearly hound one on purchasing the book...to get published! Also the letters are indeed with similar message as Barbara stated above!
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It's a vanity site - they are listed in the Better Business Bureau
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I guessed as much. But I was on first page.. and well happy for that.
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I didn't. I got asked if they could publish a poem of mine... without having to buy anything.
I bought the book anyways... but that's besides the point.
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They tell that to everyone..... you don't have to buy to get your book published in "Title of Book"....and EVERYONE gets their poem on the first page of their edition. The rest of the book is poems of those who paid...so, in someone else's volume, their poem would be on the first page, while your's would be somewhere else in the book. I had a friend who bought the book because her poem was to be in it. I had gotten the same letter, and my poem was to be in the same book. I didn't buy the book, and my poem never appeared in her copy.
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Seriously? Wow. That is weird. The book took ages to come... and after a while I thought it wouldn't come... but it did.
Oh well. It was a present anyways.
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Jan 17th comment about poetry.com
YOU are so right about poetry.com I was to be published in one of the books. I didnt buy the book but my friend did, my poem was not in the book. So she sent it back for a refund! They are a scam for sure
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No, don't go to poetry.com! It's a scam, they'll pick anything so they can sell you the book and get your money. Check out upscale contests and what not to send poetry to at winningwriters.com
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'Keep in mind, no matter where you go to get a poem or poetry published, it will cost money.'
This is simply not true. Poetry magazines and anthologies which select by quality won't charge- some might even pay (a small token) for your poem.
Last year I was published in 5 journals and 1 anthology and didn't pay a penny. I did readings and so on to promote the books- their sales to the public paid for their service in publishing local poets. In the past, I've won runner-up prizes in contests and been paid £50-£200 as part of those prizes.
If you want people to publish ANYTHING you write, you'll have to pay. If you can stand being turned down and really making sure your poetry fits its genre 100%, you shouldn't expect to pay to see your words in print. -
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To write what is worth publishing, to find honest people to publish it, and get sensible people to read it, are the three great difficulties in being an author.
Charles Caleb Colton (1780-1832)
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i don't think poetry.com is a scam site, unless you are easily tricked. Yes, i get those emails, but surely they don't tell everyone that they are being published in immortal verses? I have gotten two emails and letters in the mail, for two different poems of mine being published in an upcoming book, that will be published in the next winter. I also payed 50 bucks to get a copy of the book. Another one of my poems was also published there, but i heard nothing of it, one day i just got a book of a hundred or so poems, and mine was in it. I didn't pay for it or anything.
No one say im bragging, did i ever say anything about me being an 'exceptionally talented...poet'
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Unfortunately, it is not really a matter for discussion - it is pretty well established that poetry.com is not a reputable venue for poetry. If you do a google search for it, aside from the actual site, you will find very little positive comment on the site - and you will find many sites designed specifically to expose these frauds that specifically mention poetry.com.
You will find stories of people submitting random word groups to them and being offered awards for them.
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" but surely they don't tell everyone that they are being published in immortal verses?"
Yes..... they do send those emails out to everyone telling them they will be a finalist or will get published.
A few years back we had a member on this site, who is in fact a well published writer. He actually worked for a conventional publisher.
He wrote a total nonsense list of words, letters, in a manner which appeared to be verses. The actual content was total rubbish.
He entered it to poetry.com... and voila.... shortly afterwards, he received those emails telling him it would be published, he was a finalist in their competition. it was being put forward for awards. etc etc etc......
I think really that says it all......
If you ever suspect any so called publishers, there are sites on the internet where you can check them out. This being one of them......
http://www.sfwa.org/beware/
Hope that might be of some help.
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Oh, yes, they do. I received pretty much identical semi-finalist acceptance letters for at least three of their poetry anthologies; only the anthology titles and deadline dates were different. Poetry.com is a total scam. It amazes me that they are still in business.
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understandably, I will probably look into that matter, regarding it offering rewards and such.
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yep, poetry.com is a fraud. Well, i only got tricked into buying one thing their, the book with my poem in it.....not all that other crap, some medal, pin, and tropy, etc.
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Try This!
Unfortunately a lot of people don't heed the warnings about poetry.com.
So- try this.
Submit a poem that looks something like this:
My heart is in pain
as I walk through the rain
WILL I LOVE AGAIN?
Or something equally as bad:
I fart
in the dark
it tears my heart
apart.
I guarentee it will be accepted for publication because poetry.com will publish ANYTHING in hopes of getting your money to buy the book.
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Hey, they have a contest for that sort of thing at winningwriters.com!
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If you live in the UK, google that 'national poetry library'. The website has a list of numerous small presses and their magazines. Read the online blurb, and purchase copies of likely magazines. Read them - and their rules for submission. Look at past copies online (or subscribe- they need support and you get nice books not a webpage). Find some that suit you and subscribe according to their rules. Never send a poem to more than one magazine at a time- that is frowned upon.
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Sorry I meant SUBMIT according to their rules. Obviously if you've read the magazine you don't need another copy!
Most libary-linked mags are available free on line, but it is good to support these small presses, and ten pounds a year isn't that much. -
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I concur with Azure - get Poet's Market 2007.
A poem of mine recently got accepted in "Tales of the Talisman" (you can find it in poet's market).
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Yep I have to agree about poetry.com
I got a book with my poem on the first page but it's only Internet published. You can't buy the book in the marketplace. Every poem I wrote was accepted for their Immortal Verses.
I have grown so much more on this site than I could ever have done there.
I was even awarded one of their poet of achievement one year and discovered that so many other people also did.
Good for one's ego until you find out the truth lol
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And me too
I got that offer several times, i dont think its a scam in the truest sense of the word, because you actually do get something for it, but i dont think it can be really seen as a step towards recognition, but it is a great ego boost(at least untill you realise that its a marketing campaign). -
I got suckered into that poetry.com scam too. Very horrible thing to do to young poets.
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You can get your poetry published
If you pay a company like poetry.com to publish your poem you will never know if your work is any good. They publish anything. Find an online publisher (an ezine) that also publishes books. If you enter a contest expect a reading fee. The reading fee should not be excessive and if they publish your poetry you should receive a free book. One such site is rpwriters.com. It is a literary ezine that publishes books and conducts legitimate literary contests. -
Poem published
It is not true. Getting published does not cost money. If your poetry is good it will get published. I've been published several time and it did not cost anything. Poetry.com will publish your poem if you pay to by a book, which will cost you about $60. I've been published by the express news in SA, TX, the SA Public Library, The Laurel Crown Foundation of TX, and a new website and book publisher Red Pulp Underground, rpwriters.com -
When poetry.com does publish your poem in a book it's usually sold in a third-world country where nobody can read.
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Try this link...
Similar thread on the poetry board. If you scan down there are a few useful links.
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If your poem is on AllPoetry, It is already published. Anywhere it is available to the public at large on the Net means it is published.
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Alpha Rats Nest
Go to Myrataal on AP and talk to her about publishing your poems. Leo2 can also advise you. FransB -
send me an e-mail with your poems, I publish poetry in books and I do not charge for it.
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It is hard to get your poetry published without working at it.
If it is just the odd poem then send it to magazines or poetry publishing companies and keep on sending to different places until you succeed or until you decide enough is enough.
if it is a whole collection of your work then again try publishing companies or publoshing agents but again be prepared for multiple rejections.
If you want a slightly easier way consider electronic publishing.
There are companies out there who will accept your work and sell it on to the public as ebooks for others to download and they pay you for each download. Not a lot but the more sales the more cash. Most will also do publishing on demand where they sell Hard-Copy books via the internet only printing for each sale. This makes hard copies more expensive for your readers but you don't have to pay to get into print.
I'll not suggest any specific firms but you can do a net-search with terms such as ebook, poetry, publishing on demand etc and see what you find.
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IT IS A SCAM
Poetry.Com is a scam. Check up on writing scams on the net BEFORE you send any money at all. Reputable publishers WILL NOT ask you for money up front to publish your work.
In fact, it is the other way round. If you are good enough, they will meet the expenses of taking you on and pushing you forward. LOOK OUT FOR SCAMS SUCH AS POETRY.COM AND INTERNATIONAL SOCIETY OF POETS. THEY ASK FOR MONEY UP FRONT.
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If poetry.com was a scam, my step mom would not have gotten one of her poems published from there. She knows what is a scam and is not.
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No offense to your mom, but, everyone gets published by poetry.com. If you check, you will find stories on the internet of people who sent random letters and symbols to poetry.com - and received glowing praise for their work, and an offer of publication.
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You submit, get told it's good enough to publish, you pay to see the book it's in, and there it is, front page. Everyone who pays to see the book gets their poem published in it. Those who don't pay, do not get published.
http://allpoetry.com/column/356904 (it's syndicated, so not promoting) , or http://www.eliteskills.com/writing_scams/poetry.com.scam.php
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I found this web site "Advice On How To Sell Poetry" http://www.sff.net/people/neile/how.to.sell.poetry.htp
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Phew. It's a little less 'formally commercial' (though incredibly snobby in parts) in the UK. You generally submit to a small press magazine, then work your way up to a small anthology- THEN maybe (if you win some contests) get an agent to help organise your readings/workshops and sometimes more anthologies.
Mind you, no-one gets that famous unless they get on the school lists, by which time you usually have to be 96 or so anyway!
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My own "little" poetry magazine - MANIFOLD - which had to cease publication during my recent illness will resume publication in the second half of this year. Unfortunately, for the foreseeable future, we cannot pay contributors - except for a small prize for the poem voted "issue choice" by a jury randomly picked from our subscribers. Naturally contributors receive the usual complimentary copy.
If you wish to know more, please e-mail us at manifoldpoetry@googlemail.com for guidelines on submissions and requirements.
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