Luke 8:23 “but as they sailed he fell asleep: and there came down a storm of wind on the lake; and they were filled with water, and were in jeopardy.”
24: "And they came to him, and awoke him, saying, Master, master, we perish. Then he arose, and rebuked the wind and the raging of the water, and they ceased, and there was a calm."
The reciprocol of massification and totalization of societies and trade is the decrease of individual liberty and innovation, invention and opportunity to produce non-systemic alternative infrastructure facts.
"As we look out into the Universe and identify the many accidents of physics and astronomy that have worked to our benefit,it almost seems as if the Universe must in some sense have known that we were coming"-- Freeman Dyson
24: "And they came to him, and awoke him, saying, Master, master, we perish. Then he arose, and rebuked the wind and the raging of the water, and they ceased, and there was a calm."
The reciprocol of massification and totalization of societies and trade is the decrease of individual liberty and innovation, invention and opportunity to produce non-systemic alternative infrastructure facts.
"As we look out into the Universe and identify the many accidents of physics and astronomy that have worked to our benefit,it almost seems as if the Universe must in some sense have known that we were coming"-- Freeman Dyson
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The Universe is like a vague marshmallow expanding in space time
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Can space be created or destroyed or time either starting from nothing
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If mass and energy did not exist from the initial starting point of the Universe
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Each corporate network sat globally poised like a giant spider sated in its H.Q. web munching
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GaryCGibson : Jesus Christ and deconstructionists on December 2, 2006I am a Christian. I appreciate various paradigms or constructions as people are wont to say nowdays of intellectual frameworks. Linguistics are interesting too of course, yet it is usefu; for philosophers not to permit language use to slip into a swamp of utter meaninglessness or truthlessness about the given world or universe of experience.
Science means knowledge of course etymologically. Discovering the veracity or truth of knowledge has been a philosophical activity before Socrates formalized the activity as Plato wrote. -
GaryCGibson on April 10, 2006Science is good, intelligence is good, Christianity is good and even dreaming is good...yet one must be careful about anything 'supernatural' its mostly corrupt.
Many philosophical questions are explicable within plotinus' paradigm of The Soul (the universe) in that everything in the universe is imperfect, even thought is imperfect attempting to discover what it doesn't know. The One is absolutely perfect and doesn't even think nor contain time or temporal ekstasis. (Sartre's use of a greek term)
McKenna and Page's version of The Enneads by Plotinus is available for free online. I believe dreaming about flight is anyone's way of trying to be free. Some Americans still admire the frontier ethic, yet the rest of the planet may be more cynical and cut to the front of the line minded. One can easily go from cosmology metaphysics and Christianity to politics or corporatism as a topic for discussion. -
stoneage on April 10, 2006Today I am running a bit behind but I am still into your discussion. If the truth be know I have come to the conclusion that this whole thing seems to be something of a greater “power” at work but I am not driven to explore it at the level that you are. I am exploring though. I have discovered certain elements of psychology which seem to fit things in my experience. I am puzzled by my own dreams of flight, in which I fly liberated from the forces of gravity. This would not be so strange if I flew like a bird in my dreams but I don’t. I have to concentrate very hard and then I lift from the ground and feel gravity falling away. Sometimes I race skyward and become very cold only to wake in a state of great peace. I know this is not scientific stuff but it is contained in my psychology so it makes me think. I am sure we will share further insight into the subject and you have convinced me that you have put a great deal of thought (and research) into your point of view, thus I would be a fool to discount you or to have anything less than respect for your efforts.
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GaryCGibson on April 10, 2006I'm not sure that you know what 'my version' of science is? My ideas about contemporary science and scientific method are fairly contemporary. I haven't claimed to have invented one of my own.
One may have lots of skill at math, learn lots of physics, learn technical equipment, read what other scientists have done historically and presently, survey what has been discovered and why it believed to be true and that is a gist of science. Epistemology and philosophy are different, and not useless information. Dead reckoning and various sorts of judgments about existence and metaphysics based on various premises aren't invariably invalid because they aren't scientific.
One may philosophize about scientifically validated knowledge and guess or opine about if its true forever or for some short period of time, and consider questions such as shannon entropy and conservation/loss of information from black holes, if the Universe expands forever and the physical structures are broken down, if the stelliferous era ends and cold dark matter prevails...is information lost violating the conservation of energy.
Those are technical questions. My eyes haven't seen the light from the neo-proto universe but telescopes have, in theory, if one can trust a 13 billion year red shifted pack of photons, and if one regards relativity as settled regarding how space has affected the photons, and if one doens't believe some sort of quantum mechanical substitution of travelling photons hasn't happened or extra-dimensions haven't effected the energy travelling in some unknown way one may have some information to use an an element in forming an opinion about a certain post-inflaton aspect of this universe.
If one reads about Plotinus and the neo-Platonist view of the creation one can place the entire paradigm of contemporary cosmology neatly within it--its in the realm of The Soul, not in the realm of The Intellect and not in the realm of The One. That sort of transition or theoretical association is a bit more obscure obviously, and if one hasn't an interest one wouldn't have read formal or modal logical and considered how sundry biblical staments consist in relation to neo-platonist worldview of the cosmos.
If it hasn't already been considered, I'd like to point out that Martian ice could be melted and used for cosmic ray water 'insulation (five meters thickness needed) within a triple-walled shelter 'igloo' for Martianaut housing
Poetry is just poetry however. I don't want anyone to think I'm trying to do quantum computing, research d.n.a. in crystals that scientists can use to study ancient fossillized genetic materials or whatever. With depth in history and philosophy at a bachelor's level, and reading science when I can between bike trekking or house painting I can't get very deep into research. Trying to economically escape from the U.S.A. after ten years of labor unsuccessfully trying to get a sailboat (seven failures) and return to Alaska to photo and write poetry about vanishing wildlife or whatever I just don't work at Intel dusting chips nor burn scientific papers about turning Venus into a super-computer.
Perhaps the idea you have about what my 'interpretation' of science is begin with the poems posted here. You should know that these are simply poems and not scientific postulates. They aren't in such a form nor are they intended to be.
Aristotle believed that poetry was about the 'possible' instead of the factual or historical. Because I read in an interdisciplinary way and am not always writing about history I may well take elements of philosophical thought, writings from Plato or Heraclitus to Duns Scotus, Thomas Acquinus, Parmenides, Hegel, Kant, Sartre, Schopenhauer, Quine or Strawson, Wittgenstein or Whitehead and relate them to Frege, Kerkeguard, Diraq, Pauli, Swarzhchild, Einstein,Green, Witten and so forth, and perhaps combine them with Christian ideas and poetic concepts and styles. The effort is to describe metaaesthetics perhaps with the help of science, not in substitution for it.
The ingrediants or background reading and writing any poet or even philosopher may have can be substantial. Perhaps one must prioritize it and attempt to write about what one believes is true about the universe instead of what is just 'scientific'.
Matters of revelation such as the Bible provides aren't matters of science though debatably some may find scientific support for the book of Genesis or whatever; The Big Bang hypotheis as a modal logic parallel of the 'Let there be light' sudden existence of light. In my book Creation and Cosmos; The Literal Values of Genesis' I tried to show some of the paralell paradigms, and the literal values I refer to are time literals or unknown bound variables with figurative time parameters. I wasn't trying to do science.
You may be interested in reading a review in Scientific American page 98/100 on 'Beyond the Standard Model' about three books that review cosmological theories of everything beyond the standard theory.
On the problem of infinities I believe they remain infinite. Some infinities may be reduced or eliminated through various equations or discoveries, and that highlights the point that some infinities don't exist but are instead hypothetical infinities.
On the subject of cosmology which I like reading about one may find all sorts of interesting theoretical structures, and philosophically meta-physics structures have interesting conjunctions sometimes with that of cosmological researches. Physics uses theoretical structures also to try to find various ways of 'fitting' what is known into more complete structures. Logic and modal logic may create structures that can be inductive models based on necessary consistency. One may apply that principle with theology and Biblical researches too.
On the subject of creationism there is much unclarity about what is meant by that, and what the Bible actual means is different than what one wants it to mean. many examples exist.
In reading Bruce Vawter's simultaneous analysis of the four gospels he raised the point about Jesus feeding the five thousand. The Bible doesn't actual say how the bread was multiplied with the fishes, people may assume it does. When Jesus healed the cripple at the pool of Bethesda there is a possible scribal interpretation that the pool bubbled at a certain time each day as it was stirred by angels. Vawter believed that point about the bubbling water being stirred by angels wasn't written by the apostles but by a later 'enhancer'. You may know that the Gosple according to Judas Iscariot was released recently...perhaps some of the city of Iskar (Iskariot) wanted to regain poltical correctness so they turbo-charged a version of a gospel for their own benefit.
Actually I have a sort of post-creationist view of the Genesis account such that it can include virtually anything cosmologists discover within it. If you have an e-mail address I will send you a pdf version of my book 'Creation and Cosmos; The Literal Values of Genesis' so that you could have an idea of what I thought about it before I read Plotinus and considered the Bible more.
Following is a post on end-times and political structures that I wanted to post. Thanks for your interest on the stuff above...Gary C Gibson. Send a message here if you'd like the book as an attachment... one@garycgibson.us
Does a Hierarchical Priesthood of the Temple Sort lead logically to the Anti-Christ in The Temple?
In the world today corporatism is a political force making a new world order. In Christian end-times scenarios the anti-Christ will reign in The Temple in Jerusalem, and a sort of new world order perhaps within the global paradigm of a ‘Babylon’ like world trading power will perhaps consolidate religions within its bureaucratic power structure.
The National Geographic’s article on 20th century genocides noted that China under Mao eliminated 30 million to the need for political cleansing. China with communism moving toward corporatism with the cooperation of opportunistic foreign investors such as find favor with the Bush administration may vie with other post-civilization powers to control the thought and will of mankind.
The United States congress has sought to control its borders that have allowed in more than 16 million illegal aliens since the Reagan administration. In a more orderly era legal immigrants arrived in the United States through Ellis Island, while today they protest by the millions to cut lines and demand ‘compromises’ that give them full citizenship rights even if gradually. The Senate considers a compromise in such a way as to decide to give a burglar the jewelry, the gold, or citizenship instead of contemplating law enforcement. The right of sheer force to take over the political deliberations of a foreign nation isn’t new.
Africa has been beset by national and tribal wars, 26 million Africans have HIV and Rwanda had an 800,000 person genocide occurring over three months while the international community turned aside perhaps because of the ‘complexity’ of becoming involved. A ‘minor’ democide is still in progress in Darfur. The Democratic Party of the United States casts aside the 200,000 murders of Saddam Hussein’s government, chemical war on Kurds and elimination through avoidable neglect of 300,000 to 100,000,000 innocent Iraqi ‘vulnerables’ as in Ted Turner’s words something ‘that wasn’t worth it’. Decision’s of what interventions to stop wars are ‘worth it may be another difficult yet problematic aspect of 21st century hierarchical structures with an overweening ambient background of broadcast rave an irrationality that serves corporatists purposes by elimination of the weak and of potential rival forms of government such as democracy.
A Temple priesthood, tithed and closely supporting the Absolute monarch of a nation has been a fact in the world even tough Jesus Christ sought to eliminate it with the ultimate sacrifice of Himself and to establish an egalitarian ‘Priesthood of Believers’. Jesus predicted the temple would be destroyed within a generation (it was), and the Temple priesthood considered Jesus such a threat that they found him ‘blasphemous’ and worthy of crucifixion. The Temple Priesthood lingers on in Christianity simply through tradition, inertia, greed and the technological difficulties through history of creating a non-communistic close association of believers. In pre-industrial era farmers would have found such assembly more difficult than today’s mobile urban generations.
A priesthood of believers would become a sort of Special Forces power wresting freedom of thought from too closely associated with politicians and worldly economic powers hierarchical commercial priests. God probably doesn’t perform miracles on a regular time schedule like a Cepheid variable or old faithful geyser during a weekly two-hour entertaining performance of ‘worship’…then again perhaps he does (skeptically). Well meaning Christians working as commercial priests may feel a need for production or sensationalism that would not exist if they were simply elders with circles of Christian associates that had entered into God’s rest and were always in contemplative worship working supportively in the world to meet the needs first of themselves as believers and evangelizing larger social groups.
While it is possible to imagine circles of twelve souls gathered with a five minute timer for each to sermonize, evangelize or discuss meaningful issues once a week, it is also possible to imagine such groups scanning each other for rtv devices implanted within their personal articles or themselves, or consider if biometric cards or rtv devices placed into illegal aliens that would treat them as cattle would be anti-Christian.
The Ottoman Empire was formed by Osmanli tribal shepherds that became shepherds of men and made janissary units of Christian European captives into slave soldiers that were the best fighters in the world. Corporatist powers today may consider people as cattle to be herded, as could a hierarchical priesthood perhaps of any denomination working closely with global corporate board executives begin to seek to ‘herd’ the global population into their cattle stalls of control. A priesthood of believers would oppose such corporatist power with a Green Beret quality instruction in democratic Christianity wherein people associate in modest peer grouping always working to grow in the faith and true knowledge of God and the Bible. The hierarchical priesthood/corporatist neotheocratic market tyranny may place its CEO into the Temple Offices as absolute Dictator, or perhaps it could simply be a Muslim mullah’s move up the Dome of the rock as Super-Duper Mufti in some distant corporatist permutation of global political alignments.
Edited on Apr 13, 9:01 because 'Siloam to Bethesda'.
